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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 01:55 PM
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What is the best Wide Band AFR Monitor Kit

i want to tune my e6k and new single turbo set up. just wanted to get some feedback on which AFR kit to buy. please say name of it, how much it cost, where you got it, how well it works, etc...
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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I don't have a wideband yet, but the FJO looks very, very good. You can buy it in several different packages with different options. Check it out at:

http://www.fjoinc.com/automotive/products.htm

a good vendor is here:

http://www.widebando2.com/
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Old Dec 21, 2002 | 04:23 AM
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A bunch of the PowerFC/Datalogit folks have been using the sytems from http://techedge.com.au/. Total cost for an assembled unit with display, cable, and shipping is a bit under $300 + a locally-sourced sensor for $120-150. EFI Systems has an affordable wideband system coming out, too. Anderson Ford Motorsport lists it on their site. FJO sytems are nice, too.

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Old Dec 21, 2002 | 12:01 PM
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I love the Uego wideband, it costs a bit more but having the temp compensated linear output and excellent support and feedback from other users convinced me to pay the premium.

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Old Dec 21, 2002 | 06:38 PM
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I'm very happy with my FJO.
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Old Dec 21, 2002 | 06:49 PM
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i have a FJO no complaints
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Old Dec 21, 2002 | 10:24 PM
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If you are considering the DIY WB make sure you locate the O2 sensor before you commit to the system or you might end up waiting a while to find the sensor for it.

This thread may enlighten you as to some of the difficulties in finding an available sensor for the techedge WB unit.

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...&highlight=diy
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Old Dec 22, 2002 | 09:06 AM
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I to have the FJO, great unit, worth every dollar..Max
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Old Dec 22, 2002 | 11:42 AM
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If you are considering the DIY WB make sure you locate the O2 sensor before you commit to the system or you might end up waiting a while to find the sensor for it.

This thread may enlighten you as to some of the difficulties in finding an available sensor for the techedge WB unit.

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...&highlight=diy
Sensors seem to back in the supply chain again.

I run the TE WB unit with the Datalogit and the PFC.
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 11:44 PM
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https://key.2coolweb.com/monarchprod...c/orderngk.asp
Description Oxygen Sensor
Product Number 24169
Price $94.85
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 11:46 PM
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Use this link and type in part# 24169
http://www.monarchproductsinc.com/ngk.htm
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 03:29 PM
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has anyone had any experience with this meter at:http://www.lambdaboy.com/?
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 07:28 PM
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M&W

Believe the Hitman uses an M&W. And, Haltech uses an M&W. Hmmm.

I bought an M&W from MRM Racing.
Looks like a very nice piece of equipment (not installed yet).

Steve C.
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 04:05 PM
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I also have the unit from MRM. Great and plugs into a palm pilot (for graphical display) along with datalogging to the haltech
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Old Dec 28, 2002 | 09:01 AM
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Use this link and type in part# 24169
http://www.monarchproductsinc.com/ngk.htm
is that the ntk wideband sensor required from techedge for their kit to work properly?
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 03:21 AM
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how acurate is the wideband from techedge?? After today, it makes me want one. I was running my car when afr's were around 15-16, Im very glad to find out though, the car was supposely tunned before I bought it.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 01:50 AM
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while the above mentioned wide bands (fjo, mrm,tech edge) are very tuner friendly, and should work very well comparitively speaking:

http://www.widebando2.com/FAQ%20More%20Info_1.htm#How accurate is the FJO wideband

I think that the best way to answer the question as stated "What is the BEST Wide Band AFR Monitor Kit"
is to say that I would go with either the Motec unit http://www.motec.com.au/plm.htm or the Horiba Unit http://www.emd.horiba.com/engmeas/me...mbda/index.htm
Motec plm has the size advantage and there ems systems are top notch (probably cost less than the Horiba unit-but you still have to have deep pockets)
Horiba-can you say Labratory Research accuracy,
they both use the UGEO , I think the Motec can use either ntk or ugeo

Oh Ya and before purchase of either unit you may want to stop by you local finacial institution and perform the ol stick em up routine, cause like I said either one you'll need to have deep pockets

I think Ima gonna save up for the fjo unit
cause I ain't into the stick em up routine
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 03:04 AM
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motec all the way!
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 04:08 AM
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Can you still buy the M&W wb i usa?

MRM racing here in Sweden has stop selling the M&W and only sells Autronic wb meter.

Where can i buy the M&W?
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 05:35 AM
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Funny, the MRM site still lists the Uego. I sent them an email asking about a replacement sensor and calibration chip.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 06:11 AM
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Strange...

When I enter the Swedish site and looks at the M&W wb meter it says

"På grund av kraftigt höjda priser på UEGO sensorerna har vi ej mer denna i lager. Vi hänvisar till Autronic´s"

In english that means that the UEGO sensor is to expensive so they dont sell the M&W wb no more and you should buy the Autronic instead..

But when i enter the English site it seems to be ok to buy it?

I will go with the autronic anyway i think because im getting the autronic sm2 ECU...
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 10:43 AM
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If you want to datalog you DONT want a Motec, you have to buy thier Datalog equip according to them and it cost big bucks.

I have the TechEdge and compared it to the brand new wideband that the dyno had. It was a wb that they got from Dynojet and it was BIG MONEY!!!!! So anyway, my $400 TechEdge wideband was consistantly within .1 of thiers.

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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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FJO

i have had the fjo with the red display for a couple of weeks now. i like it alot. i would reccommend it
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 06:21 PM
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MRM quoted $570 for a replacement sensor for the M&W Uego wideband!!!!!!!!!!!

Shop elsewhere for your own good.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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I have the techedge do it yourself one and I think the price is right!

I am going to compare it to another brand of wideband so I can make sure it's accurate, but the readings it puts out seem ok.

Brian
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