BTW car ran fucking awesome compaired to what it was b4 the new w/g and ignition......i thought it was powerful right after the tune but after the bost creep and ignition issue was fixed DAMN it made a big difference...

OH NO A COMPRESSOR HOUSING the COVER had a JD logo on it STOP ALL PRODUCTION....

WILLJS7 would you kindly remove your mouth from BDC's ASS the kissing isn't getting you any credibility....Where exactly do you stand and where does this discussion involve you? What experience do you have with either involved? I'm speaking from REAL EXPERIENCE from owning a AF61R and i tell you from the time i had the car dyno'd and now....there is a HUGE difference...the car performs better now on pump gas than it did with race gas boost creep bad plugs and ignition breakup.....since all thats been solved....THE turbo is a fucking beast. If i had a tuner around here for 7's i'd put it back on teh dyno after the rebuild is done an crank up the boost......

OH BTW all my RUNS were with STOCK PORTs as i found out today. Ron is putting Stg 3 Large street/race ports in it now. while i finish the rebuild......bad oil pain leak lost all the oil somehow and no oil pressure didn't help so its time for a rebuild.

Ya know what....hey ERIC talk to steve Burkette and see if when i get the car running and broken in if i can come up and shut this EMPTY Haters up.....pump gas and race gas runs.



As for the S300 comment have you ever heard the saying....."Don't judge a book by its cover"

BDC, oyu should not comment on the credibility of anyone. You're little forum butt biddy is one of the biggest thieves in the rotary community. Whjy are you accepting paypals for 87gtr's sales again?

I'm accepting Paypal's for 87GTR? Since when?

oh man........im getting out the popcorn, and the remote :). even though this thread has nothing interesteing that im looking for as far as turbos becasue im happy with my 35/40. i love reading this stufff.....one day it will all be figured out. good luck to all!:icon_tup:

That has nothing to do with this thread. I dont know what credibility you are challenging. He just pointed out the power levels of the turbo on the dyno graph and bases his opinions of the wheels on that. What does him accepting some money from sombody have anything to do with that??

Here is a quote for 87GTR on that thread

"BDC is planning on sending me a money order for a set of wheels he wants. so I asked gotbanned if would paypal bdc, and then bdc would just include the money in the money order he is already sending me. But if this is going to get blown out of proportion, I think its better we call this sale off."

I think its pretty pathetic when you cant respond or challenge his claims on a technical level and resort to personal attacks which have no relevance to the topic at hand.

OMGWTFDRIFTGUY was responding in kind.

mine?

It is relevant. He wants to comment on Ron's credibility. One of BDC's biggest handholders is a known thief on these forums. He ripped off johnrxt2 with a junk manifold and papern weight turbo. Who knows what these shadeballs have brewed up for stories on paymewnt. 87gtr's paypal is most likely suspended from scamming yet another customer. I feel sorry for BDC that everyone associates him with Tony Farkas.

Interesting thread, but I've never done any transactions with 87GTR, especially like that through a 3rd party, so the answer is "no" I am not receiving Paypal's.

Good try in diverting the topic, however. We're talking about the false advertising of this AF61R based on the facts.

B

I don't have anything to do with him financially, DriftGuy. He doesn't even live in this country, anymore. I haven't seen him for almost two years. None of that even matters much anyways; I have no idea how he does his deals or sells his parts. It's not my business. So where are you going with all of this?

B

fc3s.org?????


Don't question other vendors credibility when you have a thieves dick in your hand.

TeamFC3S.org. If you're going to accuse me of being shady, atleast get some of the basic information about me right.

"A thieves dick in your hand"... Right.

B

ehhh whatever that shithole is called. I was banned when I mentioned what a thief 87gtr was. So answer the question. Financially, oyu have nothing to do with tony, so tell me who pays for teamfc3s.org.

He pays for it. Why? Why is it any of your business? All you've done is call names and make accusations, not providing any substantial. What's it to you? .... or... do you have a vested interest in D&R, as I suspect you do?

B

Of course we do, it's a place where we can get liquored up and do burnouts.

but i still wanna go to Roxies for one of their "Shows"

It's not my business. Please don't lie to the community about your ties to 87gtr though. According to a past thread, you're a community watch dog.

Is it just me or is there a few posts missing?? :Wconfused

i dunno but this is nuts

How have I lied?

you're the community asshole that's for sure. i bet 'ya love a good argument amongst the boys while masturbating too!

that was professional :rolleyes:

bdc's argument is different from mine.

look at it from a customer's perspective. you claim 82% efficiency... immediately, i get a boner--so of course i want to see the map, check the flow rate vs. hp, and the boost i want to run to see if i'm actually going to be in that 82% range...without the map, it's just stabbing in the dark. there's no telling where the hell you are.

Regardless of whether or not you sell a half-decent turbo, your conduct alone on this forum is enough to steer myself, and others, away from your business.

Grow up.

I agree.

... i posted that to get this responce. i knew i could end this with a nice offence to the one whom began the offence.

THE HP NUMBERS SPEAK MUCH LOUDER THAN junky,BottomDeadCenter, or anyone else can contradict.

seems drama does draw a crowd...doesn't even matter the credibility!

+++++++++ I'm out, Ron.

:wave: because this thread sucks

you don't even get it. there's buttload of turbos that will perfom similar to this one. it's your conduct, immature attitude, and misleading people that's fuckin' you over.

guys, if you would like to call me out or ask questions, please give me a call and I'll be happy to answer your questions. i'm not going to debate on here anymore.

give me a call 618-222-1201

i already said i don't want a debate, just an answer.

why are you afraid of answering the question here?

haha, i tryed calling about 20 times, with money in hand to buy a turbo...

good luck calling guys, im sure u will get a hold of him :lol: :jerkit:

lol

...if no phone contact e-mail to d-rinc@hotmail or pm. i will respond asap.

and still no answer...

Someone call him and record the message. Post it up when done.

that'll be a hoot.

if he was just honest to begin with...nevermind.

Get a life.

fuck you :)

x2.....still gotta have the last word huh big man

^ hypocrite :rolleyes:

i don't know why you homos are fucking with me because i wanted to know how ron came up with 82% without a map, or testing....

he's letting you monkeys try to distort the topic, instead of being a man and admitting to being full of shit.

HE POSTED WHERE HE GOT THOSE NUMBERS YOU IGNORANT HILLBILLY!!!!!!!

So we're all supposed to take someones word for it?! Give me a fucking break!

Without any maps, testing, or anything of the sort, it's all BS IMO.

Everyone knows damn well if GuitarJunkie, or anyone else for that matter, devoloped a "custom turbo" you guys would be jumping his/their shit for proof of his/their claims.

I don't think anyone is knocking Ron's product, just his claims. If he had proof, everyone would get off the subject, PERIOD!

As GuitarJunkie already stated, some of us want to know more than just what the turbo laid down on the dyno. You need maps, among other things, to properly size a turbo for your exact application.

-Alex

What you choose to believe is totally up to you. The point is that this dipshit keeps asking and asking when he already knows where the info came form. He's just some brokedick fuck on the internet.

Never a dull moment in the single turbo section :balls:. I think we have a immediate thread lock countdown going on due to "the obvious reasons".

I couldn't have said it better so I will just quote you!

speaking of ignorant;

you don't know how to read a compressor map, so you can't even comprehend its significance. and even if you did, you're far too ignorant to even care about maximizing your setup for optimum efficiency.

you look at a big compressor housing, your tongue sticks out, drool starts to develop, and you blind yourself to the facts.

so go ahead and defend him, make yourself look even more naive than you already have... he's a liar and you're a little leg humpin' bitch protecting him from having to answer to his lies.

these two points are it! i don't care if the turbo put down 420 @16-17 psi... at that range, it looks like it blows a bit less than a 60-1. ok, who cares?

you kids just can't seem to get the importance of backing up claims like the ones ron has made. think about how many thousands of dollars he's lost because he lied.

and think about how many thousands of dollars you monkeys are losing him for talking shit when he he gets asked to back up his claims. you're trying to help him by starting shit, but all you're doing is hurting his business and letting everyone know how idiotic you are.