Hey everybody,

I'm looking to put a turbo setup on my car. I have found a T70 Turbo for a pretty good price. Here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742 Wondering what you thought about it? Also here is the manifold http://www.dysonrotary.com.au/ASP/te...m=ADAEXHS5toRX I was wondering if this is the correct one for the T70 turbo. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Bob

 

Why not just get these?

http://66.216.67.51/product.asp?0=221&1=327&3=460

It's cheaper and it's an HKS. Those T70 looks like TO4 flange, so this should work.

 

From the look of that manifold, it's meant for you to put a S5 turbo on a older rx car, the flange is exactly the same type a S5 turbo has, so it wouldn't work.

 

My first problem is I have a 12a. I am needing a manifold to fit a decent sized turbo. I don't want to end up getting the turbo only to find I can't get a manifold. So should I get the manifold then work on the turbo?

 

FWIW, that turbo has a T3 flange, not a T4. Sorry I don't have a 12A manifold source for you but I just wanted to point that out.

You'll see 12a turbo kits on ebay every now and then. They're usually small turbos though. If you want a decent sized turbo to fit you'll probably have to end up having one made. You can pick up flanges from MazdaTrix.

 

Thanks for the info. This is the list of manifolds at the site I mentioned earlier. http://www.dysonrotary.com.au/viewproduct.asp?producttype=Adaptor Plates and Manifolds Will any of these work for my 12a(Series 1) and that T70 Turbo?

 

Here's a manifold that didn't sell on eBay. It's got a T3 flange for a 12a. Might make the guy an offer.

 

First off, the information on the ebay auction is REALLY REALLY OFF...... its either meant to be missleading or the person selling it dont know JACK CHIT about that turbo.

{QUOTE FROM EBAY AUCTION}

AUCTIONS PRESENT:

THE BEST OF THE BEST:

BRAND NEW IN THE BOX!

SUPER 13B TURBO

MONSTER STONE " T70 "

FOR A GREAT POWER BOOST
WET FLOATING BEARINGS

WET FLOATING BALL BEARINGS

SHAFT & WHEEL TRIM 64.5mm

COMPRESSOR WHEEL SUPER 70 60.5mm

TURBINE HOUSING A/R .84

COMPRESSOR HOUSING A/R RATIO .70

{END QUOTE}

MONSTER STONE is a gimic name.... just trying to create a buzz about this not so special Garrett turbo.

IT IS NOT A BALL BEARING UNIT........ The pics of that turbo are a standard Garret bushing/sleeve bearing center section. I doubt its got special machining done to it to install ball bearings.

It list shaft and wheel trim as 64.5mm........... this is NOT a trim, but just a turbine exducer diameter. Its a P-trim.

The compressor "Super 70" I have NEVER heard of, its NOT a Garrett or turbonetics name. 60.4mm is NOT a T70 sized inducer diameter. The Garrett or Turbonetics T70 has a 2.720" (or 69.088mm) inducer and is MUCH bigger then this turbo. This turbo is very very close to a T61 spec, and thats what I'm guessing it is. Its a sizable turbo and from the "T" series line of T4 Garrett and Turbonetics family. (that means its a big shaft also)

Its a good price for a nice sized turbo (bigger then a T04s and TS04 {yes, those are 2 different turbos}). They seem to use a lot of BUZZ words in there adds, same with there manifolds.

~Mike...........

 

BTW, this is a BIG turbo for a 12a if you intend it to be street driven. If you don't mind a late spooling high hp turbo, then it will work, but in my opinion you'd be happier with some thing smaller.


http://www.dysonrotary.com.au/ASP/t...em=ADAEXHS5toRX This manifold, like already stated is for a STOCK Turbo II series 5 turbo.

http://66.216.67.51/product.asp?0=221&1=327&3=460 This is for a 13B.... also, you should ALWAYS stick with the correct manifold and turbine housing combo. (EX: fully divided manifold and divided turbine housing or non divided manifold and non divided housing).

WRONG, a .84 A/R, divided, tang, P Trim is a T4 framed housing

http://www.dysonrotary.com.au/viewpr...cttype=Adaptor Plates and Manifolds I'm not seeing any thing specific for a 12a, best bet is to call them.

FWIW a Hybrid Turbo II turbo works excellent on a 12a and depending on trim of the compressor will get you over 300rwhp.

~Mike..............

 

But the housing in the pictures clearly has a T3 flange. It is very apparent that this is one auction that should be passed up.

 

I don't know why you think its a T3 flange? Could you explain it to me? It looks like a tang divided T4 to me, and it has specs of a T4 (.84, divided, p trim etc). Divided T3 housings are VERY hard to come by, infact I haven't seen a divided t3 flange, and also the entrance to a T3 is much smaller then a T4 (T3 flanges are not as square-ish as a T4, their more rectangle also). It appears to be a 100% geniune T4 to me, but its not in my hands to verify. SS AutoChrome are decient people, I bought a manifold from them (now sold), they aren't Rx-7 people but are simply a company out to make a buck. They deal with all sorts of products from a wide range of cars, so they get there terminology (sp?) wrong and use buzz words to sell.

~Mike...........

 

BTW, if the spec they gave for the turbine is the MAJOR diameter, then it might be a T3, but again, the .84 tang divided is a T4 spec, and most of the generic t3 turbines come with bolt on DP flanges cast into the housing, NOT a V-Band disscharge.

~Mike..........

 

Good advice guys. It looks like I want to go with a T04 or higher now. I think a T3 is way to small. Would it be best for me to buy the manifold first then work on what turbo will fit or buy the turbo and find a manifold? Thanks for all your info guys.

 

By the way because Dyson is in Ausy they list the Rx's in series. So SA or 12a in my case would be a S1 or Series 1. Then S2 for FB and so on. So from what I can tell they have 3 manifolds to choose from. Options are from S1 to S4 stock turbo, S1 to S5 stock turbo or S1 to T04. The T04 is looking pretty nice though the picture doesn't work. So what do you think?

 

This thread turned up in a search about this exact same product...

Any ideas on what the actual compressor wheel is? Could this be a different make besides Garrett? How would something with that size turbine spool on a stock port 13BT? I'd imagine relatively low given the fact that it's a mere .84 housing and divided.

 

It's a Super 70 wheel, like it says in the ad. Okay, not to be a smartass... I've seen mention of it before, from looking up turbo Dodge stuff. It's basicially an embiggened Super 60 wheel, with a P-trim hotside. Even there it's pretty uncommon. One mention of it I came across says 400hp, but I don't know that I believe that.

Weird little bugger.

 

that is a T3 flange for sure,.. i emailed them and they said it was a "to4e turbo using a T3 flange."

 

RacerXtreme7
Like this guy above me said...it is a t3 flange. The bolt patern on a t4 flange is very close to a perfect square. The pattern of a t3 is a rectangle with the sides much shorter than the lengths. Thats what this has. I've seen this turbo in person, its decently sized and seems decent in quality. It is made by Charlotte Turbo. I think it would be good for a 1st gen.

 

widebody2, was the t70 you were selling the same as this one? was your's using a T3 flange too?

Im still not so sure if it's actually a T3 or T4 exhuast side. the guys from SS chrome seem to be a bit misleading.. They advertise a Honda turbo kit that uses the same T70 turbo..It's unlikey a non-built B18 will push a "SUPER 13B TURBO" unless you want to start boosting at vtec, the a/r arent really compadable.

 

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Do not buy a turbo from SSautochrome!!!!
On another board we had a group purchase with them for a bunch of hybrids, damn near all of them where junk. I had to pay to send mine back for a new one three times. (about $50 total) To finally end up having to get my money back. Where they then credited my paypal acount by credit card so I got hit with a fee. Even though part of the deal was I had to pay cash fr the turbo in the begining.

Bad , bad, bad stuff. My advice is to not buy anything from SSautochrome that has any moving parts.

Later
Randy