89t295k

The to4b garrett turbo(made in mexico) from ssautochrome turned out nice......don't know bout their other turbos though. 2 cents

RotaryWeaponSE7EN

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U get what u pay for.

oakridgerx7

im just curious to see, who on here who say that these turbos are junk, actually know by first hand experience? I think that some people wanna say they are junk only because they are A LOT cheaper than the other turbos they bought. Every turbo builder is gonna have a bad turbo from time to time. Just like Rotary engine builders. Does this mean that every turbo (or engine) they make is junk? the parts are available to where you can build your own turbo, Just because it isnt a HKS, or greddy does that make it junk also?

the turbo in that picture is definitely a model. Maybe someone made a mistake, and shipped off the wrong thing.

I have the same turbo right in front of me, and I have taken the exhaust housing, and compressor housing off, and it seems to be a quality piece. and yes, it has been balanced.

when I finally get the turbo on the car, I will let you guys know how it is going.

RETed

Oh, come on!
These bitches make COUNTEFEITS.
Isn't that obvious???
If it wasn't for that fact, I'd have given them some slack.
Do a web search on their names...there's a LOT of people who have had bad experiences with their CRAP.

Are you work for them or something?


-Ted

oakridgerx7

so, do you know by firsthand experience? or are you just on the "hater bandwagon". like i said, lemme get the turbo on, and i will give you my opinion.

Brent Dalton

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Scott, when do you think you'll have it finished?

zyounker

It is so widely known and obvious that they sell ****, there is no reason to waste your money to try it out1st hand..



Buying something from them is like playing russian roulette.


There have been enough failures on this forum and every other forum that you guys need to wise up. (Reminds me of people always going after the get rich quick schemes)


Are they a low cost turbo? Yes
Does every one blow up? No
Am i willing to take that chance? No.




So decide for yourself. but don't bitch to us when it blows up.

dubulup

-fast
-cheap
-reliable

pick two.

zyounker

To be fair, when it comes to ssautochrome, i think you only get to pick one.. and it isnt the 1st or 3rd choice.

oakridgerx7

ive gotta get a v band flange welded onto the turbo, then im ready to install it. Gonna have to trailer it to get the downpipe and intake pipe made. Then TOONIN TIME!

You know, ive always bought my parts cheap, whether it be used, or new. I have been successful with making my FDs reliable( i daily drive my white one) So what do you guys drive now?? Do you do your own work? And yet again, i ask you, who has had firsthand experience with ssautochromes stuff?

even if I have to have the exhaust manifold reworked, and the turbo rebuilt, im still in cheaper than paying $2800 for a "reputable" kit.

where does the reliability factor in to a turbo anyways?

and im not gonna bitch at anyone if my setup doesnt work, i will just put something else on that will work for me. Maybe I can be the guinea pig for a budget buildup. And you know, it isnt because im poor, that i dont buy the "good stuff" , i just like to see what kind of power i can put down for as little money as possible.

RETed

Waiting enthusiastically for your feedback...
All the other previous owners who claimed this all kinda disappeared.


-Ted

RETed

Click the profile button.


Oh, you gotta be kidding me, right?

I've had their POS SS turbo exhaust manifold in hand.
It's a piece of ****.
We do custom TIG welding on SS, and I know what a good SS weld is.
That turbo exhaust manifold is not even close.


Cheaper, yes.
More reliable?
I doubt it.


HOLY CRAP!
Did I just read that right???
Are you serious?
Then we're wasting our replies on you.


That pretty much sums it up.
I would bet the majority of your "experiments" don't make serious power reliably?


-Ted

Chris Ng

here is the original thread of where this particular turbo came from:

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1097918&page=1

RotaryWeaponSE7EN

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I find this thread very funny. Only because I cant believe a company that makes stuff that bad exists.

Maxthe7man

I really don't believe it, mostly for the fact you have to be a total fucktard to install a turbo with such a visible crack on it in the first place...yeah there's alot of bad stories on the net, but you read some of the threads on the various forums, and some of the people buying these things have absolutly no idea what they are doing when it comes to installing a turbo, so its hard to say whether its the user or the turbo, introduce an affordable turbo to the masses and you find the average of the masses is pretty dim,I even found threads, where people ran them, wrecked them, and then found out they needed oil lines connected to them...Not saying their product is perfect, but neither are alot of people installing them...There are success stories out there as well for these setups believe it or not...Max

oakridgerx7

I have built about 6 FDs this year alone, 2 for myself. My black car put down 342rwhp, and 316 torque at 16lbs. and 320 at 12 lbs. There are a lot of local people who can vouch for my skills building these cars so dont insult me! Finally someone responded that had a piece of ssautochromes products, thanks for your input regarding the manifold. The one that i got looks to have pretty decent welds, and all of the other parts look very well made also.

before anyone comes on here calling me names, just wait until I put this kit on to see what kind of power i can make with it, because honestly, no one knows!

RETed

Then you don't know who you're talking to either...
It goes both ways.


Do you weld stainless steel?
We do TIG, and I know what a good TIG SS weld looks like.
This manifold has ZERO weld penetration on the backside of the weld.
I dunno how they managde to do that (maybe MIG SS?), but SS welds with zero penetration scares me...


-Ted

rfreeman27

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[QUOTE=oakridgerx7]I have built about 6 FDs this year alone, 2 for myself. My black car put down 342rwhp, and 316 torque at 16lbs. and 320 at 12 lbs. [QUOTE]

I hope that is on stock turbos. Intake, exhaust, IC, and a PFC can net you 350rwhp at 15lbs on stock twins. It takes a hell of a lot of skill to bolt on some parts...

oakridgerx7

[QUOTE=rfreeman27][QUOTE=oakridgerx7]I have built about 6 FDs this year alone, 2 for myself. My black car put down 342rwhp, and 316 torque at 16lbs. and 320 at 12 lbs. you should know by now that modifying anything these days is just using a few bolt ons. And show me a dyno chart where someone consistently put down 350rwhp on stock sequential twins. Its possible, but not likely. You know, it really pisses me off that most people get on here and tell someone something not by experience, but by hearsay. If you dont have the knowledge to answer a question, you need to stay off here answering things you dont know about.

RETed I see that you are a pretty seasoned rotary mechanic, I look for constructive criticism by people like you, and it doesnt bother me. I am much more likely to believe you because of your firsthand experience with these vehicles. Im not saying that anyone is wrong, but im the kind of person who likes to find out for himself.

zyounker

BTW i know a guy who tried 2 of these turbos on his DSM.. 1st one blew on the 1st dyno pass. (Oil seal) Turns out the turbo was NOT balanced.

the replacement blew on its 2nd pull.. The front nut came off. Now this could have been due to compressor surge. I dont know i was not there when it happened. But It could just of likely not been put together well IMO.


So i personally know someone who has blown 2 of these, then went with someone elses turbo and has been fine since.

I know their quality control sucks.. So while you may get lucky and get one that holds together, it is like i said earlier. Russian roulette.


-Zach

SPOautos

I'd say its about like Russian roulette with 5 rounds loaded into a 6 shooter

RETed

Sure, I got nothing against that.
We're just trying to prevent you from "wasting" your money.
If you insist on doing so, it's your money.
At the very least, it adds more data to the experience pool.
Good luck!


-Ted

bingoboy

oakridgerx7

how about some upclose/detailed pictures of the kit pieces so we can see how it looks firsthand from someone here rather than taken from some other source?

oakridgerx7

I will get my camera tomorrow, and get some pics

jacobcartmill

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waiting for pix