AaronJ

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Dose anybody know of any companies selling a short runner manifold similar to the hks(fd3s) one for an fc3s. Im curious to find out how a short runner performs compared to a long runner manifold. I currently have a medium length runner manifold on my car which ill post a pic of below but im considering a short runner.

Turblown

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There isn't enough space to make a short runner on an FD without serious compromises to its flow. You would have to cheat the angle going into the flange. Basically giving the manifold an on-center turbine housing affect...

AaronJ

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i have an fc and here is a short runner for fd's that hks makes with their t04z kit. They used to sell them separately but no longer do so.

brad89au

http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/hk...-95%20rx-7.htm

T2mike222

This is the manifold I'm using. Works well, neukin.com http://www.neukin.com/v/vspfiles/pho...dt4fc13b-2.jpg

sk8world

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Havent you heard!! Longer is better!


Have you checked with Sean @ Aspec? I am sure he has a jig for one and could make it up for you.

just startn

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What manifold are you running?


Aaronj- Were did you get that manifold? the neukin manifold is nice, its short, they come twinscroll, and theres a new twin scroll one forsale in the FS section for $350!

AaronJ

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im looking for a short runner and from what ive read and the data ive seen i would have to stick my money with a dived short runner manifold.

The manifold pictured is currently on my car. Its made by Boostflow here in arizona.

Zero R

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Ours are about 13" if memory serves, short runners are a bit hard to make on the FC due to the LIM overhang they tend to push the turbo further out.


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AaronJ

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yuppers that is spot on im looking for the shortest one i can find but idk if i cant fit my t67 where i want. my current maifold may be jus what i need but who knows

neukin manifolds look pretty short but idk if it can fit my turbo plus i have 2 wastegates. in the end i may have to have friends help me make one.

T2mike222

Alex from neukin can build whatever you want. His divided manifold has the same runner length as the open. Its very short i can measure and let you know after lunch.

zaridar

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HAHAHA thats what some believe

Zero R

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The only twin gate short runner we make is for the FD and I know it wont fit as it puts the turbo too close to the LIM, sorry for the crappy photo as it's all I currently have. It looks like what you have is for a FD I'd be surprised if it fits with that WG location.

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AaronJ

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no my manifold fits fine. its on my car now actually but im checking to see my options for a short runner manifold that fit my needs

Zero R

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Hmmm, I'm guessing the turbo sits further forward than the pic shows. Seems the rear WG would be a issue. Why the "need" for the short runner?

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20B10AE

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Get in touch with Elliot @ Turblown. He built my short twin gated manifold based on my needing the turbo to be further back in the bay than most setups due to the design of my V-mount.

Zero R

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Elliot does good work but I'm betting those runners are roughly 13" +/- I am saying this simply because it is very similar to the design we use. I could be wrong though as I notice you're running a FD intake. My understanding is he is looking more along the line of 10" or less.

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AaronJ

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hey zero here is another pic for you and another thing is im running smaller wate gates too. an im not stuck on the idea of a short runner but my vmount location is odd and im limited room space. I jus think the idea of a short runner would help me meet my goals and numbers. So i made this to see who has the shortest manifold for an fc. I also beleive short runner can make more hp depending on the sizing of the turbo.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/show....php?p=3693632

Turblown

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Here is a photo of our short runner dual wastegate FC setup. Runners are 6".

just startn

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How do you like that heat wrap/sheilding? "heat wrap/sheilding"

Speedworks

You guys should also mention what turbo you are going to use with it.

Not every turbo will fit the other components in the engine bay.

i have a medium lenght HKS style T4 divided manifold for my GT4088R and the (cold side)compressor housing does not clear the bodywork.

vosko

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i'm running a hks t04r divided tubular manifold. runners are pretty short with a 62mm gt bb turbo on it. i like it alot so far

with that said, i love Neukin manifolds. my old drift car has one and i could not get it to break, hands down best manifold i used. i had major problems before with other tubular manifolds mainly Greddy.

i had actually planned on getting another Neukin setup but this HKS setup was too good to pass up.

like t2mike said, Neukin scientist can hook you up

Gurew

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kinda pointless to have a divided t4 flange manifold with a wg runner that isnt also divided...might as well run 2 wastegates

vosko

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i would not say pointless but it would be better and cost alot more and be more complicated. ideally i would want to see the same car/turbo/boost with all three setups undivided, divided, and full divided to see the true difference it makes. unless someone has already done it

neukin

Why is it pointless? Guess the HKS engineers messed up too. Please teach me something.