DELTA_Rotary

Ok so Shane Racing is selling their stage II kit for 4899 (big ouch). But I talked to them and they said they are selling the turbo by itself for 1800. They price their manifold for it at 950. Ok round off at 2800 for both. Now your telling me that for a wastegate, downpipe, some fittings and block off plates is going to run me 2000!? Id really like to get that turbo but the price is just way too high. Does anyone think they can build the rest of the kit for cheaper. Id love to buy the turbo for 1800 and get the rest of the kit somewhere else. Hell id wouldnt even mind paying 2800 for the turbo and manifold if i could get the wastegate, downpipe, oillines, vaccum tubing, block off plates, and water lines somewhere else for cheaper. Any help would be so sweet thanks.

13BAce

I think that the manifold they use is just an HKS cast manifold. An HKS wastegate will bolt up to that. You can make both your oil and water lines with SS braided hose, AN fittings, and some adapters, etc.

RecKleSs

Shane Racing products are way too expensive and their customer service completely sucks.

DELTA_Rotary

Hmm.... They said it mounts in a T04 location. I wonder if its the same as the HKS SS manifold with racing wastegate that the RX7 store sells for 799? Hmmm...

DELTA_Rotary

I agree but that turbo looks like it performs very well. Thats why I wouldnt mind just getting the turbo from them and getting the rest of the parts somewhere else.

ErnieT

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It's not the HKS manifold, but its very close. May work. Just hope you can return it if it does't fit. Last resort, get a manifold made. Although that may cost as much too. I got my stage 2 kit on sale for $4000.00 even.
I also have recieved fantastic customer support from Ray. Everyone has their own opinions, but my experience has been great with Ray. The turbo kit is great and it spools quick for a bigger turbo.

13BAce

Maybe it's the XS manifold? From the looks of his kits they seem a little more complete than the "usual" kits.

RETed

I don't think the HKS or the XS Engineering turbo exhaust manifolds fit the KKK turbine inlet flange bolt pattern?&nbsp Or are we talking about some kinda adapter?

Why not assemble a kit on your own?
HKS collected turbo exhaust manifold - <$300
T04 turbo - $1000-$1500
Miscellaneous oil lines and fittings - $200
Downpipe (adapter) - $200
Intake/IC pipes - $200


-Ted

Rotaryturbo

The Turbine does fit the HKS and the XS manifold because it has a T04 flange. This is because it is a Holset turbo not a KKK like I have said before. Check the numbers on the turbine housing if they are not completely grinded off. I have a picture of the turbo off of the Holset site but I do not know how to post it on here.
Later,
Ben


1991 RX7 Turbo
11.8@119mph

ErnieT

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Thats right, its a BIG hoax! Its not a KKK turbo, its a big scam.....I've heard it all....LOL

DELTA_Rotary

Ted I am trying to build my own kit but I would like to build it with the KKK turbo. I just need to find out which manifold will work with the turbo. Looks like I will either have to buy Shane Racing's or have a custom manifold made. (Might give crispeed a buzz on that)

Rotaryturbo

You can raise your stupid flag all day long but I have owned that turbo, I ran for almost a year with that turbo and I have taken it to Pro-diesal in Merriam, KS and compared it directly to a Holset that was identical. I have pictures off the Holset website. I have pictures of the turbo on my car. When I brought this to Ray's attention after I had bought it he replied that yes it was a Holset but they had removed the CHRA and replaced it with a CHRA out of a KKK. Gimme a break. Have you noticed that nowhere on the turbo is the KKK insignia. Have you noticed that in every KKK catalog or on their website they do not show a turbo that resembles it whatsoever. Doesn't anyone wonder why in all the time he has been selling this turbo that no one has been able to find out what KKK model number it is or the specs on it. Maybe they are looking in the wrong location. If it is a KKK you should be able to order it from a KKK dealer but it isn't in the catalog. Maybe Ray has it specially made just for him by KKK. Yeah right. I have the pictures I can e-mail to someone if they can post them.

Later,
Ben


1991 RX7 Turbo
11.8@119mph

AJatx

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installed in the engine bay

AJatx

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holset turbo pic1...

AJatx

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holset shot 2

ErnieT

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Yikes, that looks like the T51R too, ya think HKS is ripping everyone off too???
You have WAY too much time on your hands.

RETed

Any reason why you're insisting on that turbo?&nbsp Power per dollar, the KKK is one of the most expensive turbos you can find.&nbsp If the turbine flange is different, you'll need an adapter or a totally custom turbo exhaust manifold made - no way around it.&nbsp You can maybe see if a Garrett turbine housing can be made to fit, but I think you sound like you're set on the KKK turbo.



-Ted

ErnieT

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I agree. If I went this route again, I'd have to call Inovative turbo a call and get the Dual ballbearing T72.

Greg

or you can call me and get one They are loot though but well worth the money.

relvinnian

In my opinion they are. It is a garrett turbo, and can be had MUCH cheaper than HKS sells it for.

Here is a quote from Peter G. (RICE RACING): It would not surprise me being a holset/kkk hybrid. A turbo is a turbo, and as long as it is speced right for my engine/modifications, I have no problem using it.

DELTA_Rotary

Well I was mostly looking at this turbo because it was different and I liked the numbers you got Ernie. You said it had good response for a big turbo and you got good numbers for the amount of boost. But now your saying you would go with a T72? That just seems like way too big of a turbo for street/strip use.