RETed

Funny, I never saw a single smiley or the word "SARCASM" until now.
You think we all have ESP?


Sure, I did that a long time ago.


So what does to do with this thread?
Nothing.
Oh BTW, I know the car is local to you...


Uh, duh, isn't this what the thread is all about?


I never said it was impossible for the pre-silencer to fail.
I would find it highly improbable for it have failed.

[QUOTE]The parts on both cars are the same pieces, you say its not possible, [QUOTE]
I never said that.
Go reread my replies.
You have a big problems with comprehension.

I'm glad you find it humorous.
I find it IMPOSSIBLE that you find everything humorous.
You posted this **** to get a rise out of me.
You (and your other butt buddy over there) have this knack of going out of your way to go after me.
This implies otherwise...

Sorry, I find your excuses IMPOSSIBLE to believe.


-Ted

RETed

Yeah, you're another one...
Go reread the thread.
I think you got the same comprehension disease as Max does.
I believe the keyword was "fail".
To me "fail" <> "clog".
Stop changing the words around.
I think there was a fair argument that the pre-silencer is next to impossible to "clog".
Hey, if you're killing motors and parts are being chucked into the exhaust...you're right, it is possible to "clog".


-Ted

RETed

I'd like to see proof of that.
So far you guys are claiming just-because-you-never-saw-it-yourself-doesn't-mean-it-doesn't-happen bullshit.
I have seen this exhaust on at least a dozen cars, and they are all intact.
I have never heard of this particular pre-silencer failing, until both you dumbasses mentioned it in this thread.
I still find it highly unlikely for it to fail unless you do something really dumb (like run ultra lean AFR's), which would not surprise me...


-Ted

rx7_turbo2

Easy now there big fella, don't get your panty's all in a bunch.

If the perforated screen breaks and folds back, it can cause an obstruction which if combined with the now loose "inards" of the silencer can cause a "clog" oh ooops you don't like that word, uh how about a "plug" does that make more sense for ya?

Maxthe7man

hmm gee, looks like a personal attack to me... And the semantics over clog and fail, thats just gold....
Temper temper..
As for proof, how about you provide some for a change, you are quick to insist people provide proof, but even going back through your 11,500 posts, I see little proof of what you claim as your background, or as the base of your experience, you sure like to infer alot though....
My problem, is and a few others on this forum,is that we can tell the smell of horseshit when we smell it...Max

RETed

Why don't you ask all the members in the 2nd gen section whether their 3" presilencer is still working?
I bet all of them will tell you it is.

Personal attack?
Why bother.
I don't need to do anything to make you look stupid.
You do that pretty well by yourself.
You're sitting there smiling over your sarcasm, when the rest of us can't tell the difference...
You figure out what's wrong with that picture.


-Ted

Maxthe7man

Who is *us* and *we* anyway....
The funniest of all is each one of your last posts pretends your previous post doesn't exist...
You got all that supposed experience sitting in front of your computer makng 11,500 posts, yeah ok.. what ever...bring out the shovel kiddies, Reted's posting....Max

rx7_turbo2

That's right the mightly king Ted would never stoop to the level of personal attacks. Oh wait a second whats that I found on the previous page?

Oh that's right its the " Oh **** their not buying the we and us line I better start hurling insults to take the heat off the fact I don't know what I'm talking about" Always a classic and enjoyable Ted tactic. It never gets old Ted keep it up buddy.

RETed

Why don't you step down from being a Mod so I can ignore you.


-Ted

RETed

Oh, you're not a mod.
You're now ignored.


-Ted

rx7_turbo2

You won't ignore me. Your ego won't allow it. You'll pretend not to read what I say, but you'll read it anyways. Without this forum what do you have Ted?

Maxthe7man

Just don't read what I post, its that easy, and limit your own posts to reality...max

surfpac

I have to agree with Ted here. It is very well made, inside and out. I just got one of those 3" turbo presilencers and it is basically a perforated straight throughpi pe packed with ceramic and stainless steel fibers for excellent longevity and sound absorbtion. I don't see how anything can clog that up as it is a straight through design which means it flows well.

surfpac

C'mon guys take it easy.
I give ReTed an A for information purposes related to our cars, unfortunately I give him a D+ for people skills. Just forget about it and lets talk about rotaries, please.

surfpac

I'm thinking the next time I need a presilencer I will take one those Dynomax Ultra Flo straight through mufflers, cut off the top of the pan and replace the fiberglass packing with stainless steel wool and ceramic packing (available from McMasterCarr) and then weld the top back on. It'll be much cheaper than a $250 presilencer from Racing Beat, last as long and flow just as well, I think. What do you guys think?

Maxthe7man

Have you never thought about the innards letting go and clogging up the pre-silencer at the outlet.. the semantics over the word clog and fail by Reted, were just because he was scraping the bottom of the barrell for an argument and it got sidetracked from there...On my one car , its no longer doing any pre-silencing, its "failed", I can occasionally here noises from that general area when I am driving, Its more or less and empty can now, with some loose stuff floating around it, if the wadding came loose all at one, it would definetly clog, I once had this happen on my first gen with a "super turbo" muffler, thats built just like the RB presilencer but with more far inferior materials, that muffler lasted literally about 20 city blocks of driving..
I am using Dynomax ultra flows on my turbo car, the all SS constructed ones, and yes they are pretty good, no sign of any failure yet, only about 17,000 km's on them though.. I just wish they would make a muffler with a 3" in and offset connection..
As far Reteds information, well thats debatable...Max

surfpac

Max,
The Walker Dynomax "Super Turbo" muffler are not straight through designs. They have baffles/chamber and fiberglass packing. The fiberglass will burn out in no time and the extreme heat will eat out the insides as well. My cousin blew apart one of those mufflers driving a 1st gen 12A Turbo on the highway, racing a Porsche . The muffler disentegrated! I have one on my daily driven Sr20Det powered S13 and it does the job fine though for that application. Not much heat like a rotary and it is quiet.

Why not try this Ultra Flo even though it says the inlet is offset and center outlet http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...&Ntt=ultra+flo
Since it's a straight through perforated pipe maybe the flow is revesible, meaning you can make either end the inlet or outlet. Not sure until I take apart one of them which I plan on doing anyway when I repack with ceramic and stainless steel wool. I'd probaby go with the larger one though for maximum sound absorbtion. http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...&Ntt=ultra+flo

Maxthe7man

The "super turbo" muffler I once used was a straigth through design, more or less a perforated tube surrounded with some kind of wool.. anyways, they don't last...I wasn't racing anything when I burnt it out, I was driving to work..Max