Power Drops off after 7k???
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Power Drops off after 7k???
Well today i just got back from the dyno the car dynoed at 408 whp and 305 lbs of tq. My motor is large streetported with a t66 and i'm running 850 primaries and 1600cc secondaries. Can anyone tell me why it dropped off at 7k? Oh yeah this was at 15 psi you guys think its too low for that amount of boost? If anyone could help me i would appreciate it. thanks
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i would scan the dyno but my scanner is messed up man. Thanks guys for the input. I bought the car from a friend of mine it was built by bryan smith at rotorsportsracing. I think its still using stock ignition. As for the turbo i ask the guy whom i bought it from and he said he didn't know. It was dynoed on a dynojet.
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That is NOT laggy and its pretty A Typical of an average porting job in most peoples experience.
T04Z 1.15 A/R *actual* on road pull in 3rd gear to give "real" boost response curve and power generated!
This is a average street port, with unknown timing specs, but when testing compression figures were high so its not anything like the one pictured below that makes power much higher and makes much more power per boost pressure used
3" exhaust with no cat will not be your issue, it is more to do with the porting specification than anything else. A really well done street ported block will peak at around 7500rpm (no higher with stock inlet manifolding) and a medium sized turbocharger. So you are in the ballpark. But the ports need to be like this *see link* for that to happen... https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...29#post9078029
T04Z 1.15 A/R *actual* on road pull in 3rd gear to give "real" boost response curve and power generated!
This is a average street port, with unknown timing specs, but when testing compression figures were high so its not anything like the one pictured below that makes power much higher and makes much more power per boost pressure used
3" exhaust with no cat will not be your issue, it is more to do with the porting specification than anything else. A really well done street ported block will peak at around 7500rpm (no higher with stock inlet manifolding) and a medium sized turbocharger. So you are in the ballpark. But the ports need to be like this *see link* for that to happen... https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...29#post9078029
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A properly done street port will only return around ~105psi compression or so on a 100% brand new engine @ 250rpm test speed on std temp and pressure day. *this is with 9.0:1 ratio rotor set and 2mm factory apex seals or equivalent sealing ability.
If your engine measures much higher compression than this then it does not posses the late timing and overlap qualities of a maximum effort street port and will not deliver the Ve increase nor the peak power speed increase or be able to make power to 8.5k+rpm either.
If your engine measures much higher compression than this then it does not posses the late timing and overlap qualities of a maximum effort street port and will not deliver the Ve increase nor the peak power speed increase or be able to make power to 8.5k+rpm either.
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That is NOT laggy and its pretty A Typical of an average porting job in most peoples experience.
T04Z 1.15 A/R *actual* on road pull in 3rd gear to give "real" boost response curve and power generated!
This is a average street port, with unknown timing specs, but when testing compression figures were high so its not anything like the one pictured below that makes power much higher and makes much more power per boost pressure used
3" exhaust with no cat will not be your issue, it is more to do with the porting specification than anything else. A really well done street ported block will peak at around 7500rpm (no higher with stock inlet manifolding) and a medium sized turbocharger. So you are in the ballpark. But the ports need to be like this *see link* for that to happen... https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...29#post9078029
T04Z 1.15 A/R *actual* on road pull in 3rd gear to give "real" boost response curve and power generated!
This is a average street port, with unknown timing specs, but when testing compression figures were high so its not anything like the one pictured below that makes power much higher and makes much more power per boost pressure used
3" exhaust with no cat will not be your issue, it is more to do with the porting specification than anything else. A really well done street ported block will peak at around 7500rpm (no higher with stock inlet manifolding) and a medium sized turbocharger. So you are in the ballpark. But the ports need to be like this *see link* for that to happen... https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...29#post9078029
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You can use a simple *estimation multiplying factor of 1.15* to estimate your engine power as see how it compares to the median results listed here. Remember your dyno measures need to be reconciled with reality too............ something lots of people forget (not saying you have).
Go get yourself a Race Logic Performance Box and run your own tests of 90kph to 140kph acceleration in 3rd gear (great tests are pulls from 2k rpm to 8k rpm) and that will tell you when you run a speed report where you sit on power band quality and power quantity
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Totally not true, people forget history all to readily sadly.
Heaps of cars over a decade ago have run from 600bhp to 700bhp on the stock FD3S coils! all be it with ign booster, a Crane Hi-6 on leading coil or a HKS DLI works and always has.
I have seen them listed in the above thread.
327kph on stock coils
10 sec and 135mph on stock coils
^ Both basically road cars
http://www.fdrx7.com/forum/showthread.php?t=182 327kph and 700+bhp 1999
http://www.riceracing.com.au/13B-REW-engines.htm A&L rx7 stock coils 1997
Heaps of cars over a decade ago have run from 600bhp to 700bhp on the stock FD3S coils! all be it with ign booster, a Crane Hi-6 on leading coil or a HKS DLI works and always has.
I have seen them listed in the above thread.
327kph on stock coils
10 sec and 135mph on stock coils
^ Both basically road cars
http://www.fdrx7.com/forum/showthread.php?t=182 327kph and 700+bhp 1999
http://www.riceracing.com.au/13B-REW-engines.htm A&L rx7 stock coils 1997
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are you sure the engine is ported? meaning have you physically seen the ports? and for that size turbo on a streetported engine, id say its pretty lagy. that even seems pretty laggy for stock ports. on my old 35r setup(yes i know its bb) i was on a bone stock reman hitting 18 psi by 3700rpms, the above just doesnt make much sense.
look on the turbine housing to see what a/r it is. also, who tuned it?
look on the turbine housing to see what a/r it is. also, who tuned it?