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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-r...QQcmdZViewItem

GUITARJUNKIE28

get it from ssautochrome, or x02 racing.

almost the same thing, but usually ~$100, and they have thicker flanges. lots of guys use those without problems. lots of guys talk **** about them, but i've never heard anyone who's used one talk ****.

signofinfinity

they should be a replica of a brand manifold right? hks i believe?

no idea....

GUITARJUNKIE28

hks, greedy, knightsports.... they ripped off the design from one of them.

hey, those 8 year old chinese kids are getting good with the tig!

doridori-rx7

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That sir, IS a POS.. I've worked with a few headers of that material, ( chinese stainless is what they are whimsically calling it..), It's useless, very high in carbon and impurities. On the rx7 with is broad heat cycle range you'll crack that header in under 3-4 months with normal every day use, sooner if you run high boost and/or have a big turbo sitting on it.

ihavetwins

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yea dont buy that man. i had a friend who bought one for his rx7 put it on it cracked in 2days

GUITARJUNKIE28

pics gentlemen?

RacerXtreme7

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The OBX mani's DO crack a lot easier then the SSAuto ones do, there not the same manifold. Don't you get abrasions from humping those manifolds all the time? j/k :P

GUITARJUNKIE28

i've never seen anyone that claims the ssauto manifolds crack that's actually provided a pic.--except t04t2, but that was an fc manifold... WAY different construction.

Poweraxel

define crap?


my comments on this unit:

1. Personally i wouldnt put it on my FD
2. I dont think its a high quality unit that belongs in an FD
3. Your FD will probably lose value in many people's opinion
4. Poorly constructed

GUITARJUNKIE28

the construction isn't too bad.

the runners are a bit too fat to be optimum, but not so fat that it'll make a HUGE difference.

they could have used a bit more filler material on the welds, but they penetrate great without burning through anything.

flanges on the newer (we're talking about ssauto, NOT obx here) manifolds are up to 1/2"...good

material is so-so. i've seen tons of mild steel manifolds work, so even cheap stainless is fine.

design is the same (actually straight ripped off) as the greedy, KS, and hks manifolds, other than the runner diameter.

so when you say poorly constructed, what do you mean? it's by far the best bang-for-the-buck out there. i'm STILL waiting for any pics of one that has cracked.

doridori-rx7

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They are JUNK dude.. they get THROWN out.. you want pics however there are .. ohh.. I'd say I've seen 30 pics on various sites in the last 8-9 months, from NICO and heavy throttle to here.. so you wan tpics.. go look for em.. Personally I don't keep broken , unrepairable ***** around the shop..

doridori-rx7

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AS I've already stated, The metal is uncertified, high carbon and full impurities.. I dunno I think that pretty much describes the basis of ' crap' as it pertains to the materials used.. anything that comes after the materials in the process of fabrication is moot.

Indian

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WOW , Who shoved a manifold up your ***. Take it easy man, your gonna bust a blood vessel if you don't calm down.

I do agree with GUITARJUNKIE28 that I have never seen the FD vesion of the ss mani cracked before. Everyone flames the mani but no one has shown evidence of cracking. Now we are talking about the second batch with the thicker flanges for the FD.

Honestly, If one last for 2 years , thats about the time I would want to change my setup anyway.Or buy a next one, still comes out cheaper that buying one for 800 and up.

As in the manifold devalueing your car, thats a load of crock. If you don't want to buy a ROTORY that could flop on you in a minute because of a manifold then move on. People pay for what they want, if they really want it. Just because it's not authentic doesn't mean it's not good. If that was the case, no one would buy HKS turbos because they get there stuff from Garrett.So it's not authentic.But you wouldn't say HKS isn't good now would you.BUt then, it's ok for HKS to do that, because they charge more for the same blasted turbo right??

Maybe SScrome should charge more than everyone else, then no one would have anything to say about them. But wait, then you would be buying hks, greddy stuff, the cheaper stuff.LOL Would that devalue your car??

This is an arguement that will go on forever
The only thing I can say about these manifolds are that they look good(don't know about how they work) and if you have no evidence to back up you claim just make an opinion, not a dictation on whats wrong with it because you heard someone else said so.

doridori-rx7, I understand what your saying about you seeing them crack, BUt why should we take your word for it? You might hate that company because they didn't return your money because you didn't want the product anymore, so now your flaming them. You have no proof and your attitude here is undesirable to bare. Certified??? lol. How much warranty do you get witha greddy manifold?Certified for what. I understand the material is probably stronger than the ss manifold but so what?? This company is giving people who want to modify their cars , who can't afford your certied mani, an option, nothing is wrong with that. Not everyone can offord a grand+ manifold. Honestly , have the price is just name imo.

In my opinion, People who are curious about this mani should try it. For a small price if it works you get away with a deal and if it doesn't then you lost a smaller portion of money finding out facts for yourself. Cause we all know the the more expensive mani won't crack right...... .

Hope I didn't offend anyone, this is my opinion on this matter. Nothing to get steamed about.


Keith

signofinfinity

thumbs up to you indian..... i agree 100%

GUITARJUNKIE28

ok, since you've seen 30 of them, it shouldn't be too hard for you to find one...just ONE!

widebody2

People have been bashing these manifolds since day 1. Like Guitarjunkie said I have never ever seen even 1 pic of a cracked FD manifold...not 1 and I look all the time. I used 1 on my car and ran 16-17 lbs with a huge turbo hanging off it and didn't have any problems what-so-ever. This was a few years ago and it was even before they changed to the thicker flanges...this was with the super thin flanges and still no problem....I would absolutely love for one of you guys who is constantly bashing these manifolds to supply just 1 picture of a cracked fd manifold and I will bow down to you. ssautochrome has been selling these manifolds on ebay for at least 4 or 5 years and have probably sold well over 1000...still I haven't seen 1 picture of a cracked one. I would think that if they were such crap that at least 1 unhappy customer would come back and post a pic...don't you? There isn't 1 on this whole friggin forum.

The Griffin

I agree,if the FD maniflolds were cracking and only lasting a few months you would hear more of it.If you look around at the posts ,the turbos they sell are crap and that's well documented,the wastegates are a mixed bag of feedback.DoriDoriRX7 the expert should post some pics for us like the people with SSAC turbo experiences and put this issue to bed once and for all.

johnrxt2

thats funny mine hasn't cracked yet with a decent size turbo on it.

doridori-rx7

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You want proof , simple DO a SEARCH.. allot of people have shown on this fourm and MANY MANY others the lack of quality in these parts.

As for "Certification' your arguing against my points and you have no idea what you are talking about?!? good job... Then you go to to talk about 'Your opinion' which from the previous paragraphs is based on nothing but your own opinion.. nothing else.. !! Certification is a process of Quality controll that documents the level of puritiy of the particular alloy involved.. in this case the ammount of carbon and other crap in the metal would make it suited to nothing but scrap. it's useless. Brittle, has hot spots, severe localized weld stressing.. If you need to use a 2cm thick flange for it to work right thier is SOMEHTING very very wrong with that metal.. that should be plainly evident for even the biggest dullard.

These products are the bottom of the barrel.. ranking right up there with yellow stickers, 25lb 17" cast wheels and $12 fog light kits.

t-von

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All this bickering is nonsense. I say coat the damn thing with a 2000 degree coating and call it a day. You guys keep forgetting about all the other options you have with cheap stuff like this. Either way, it will still be cheaper than a custom made one and proabably last longer than your engine that you will blow anyways.

GUITARJUNKIE28

[QUOTE=doridori-rx7]You want proof , simple DO a SEARCH.. allot of people have shown on this fourm and MANY MANY others the lack of quality in these parts. .....

If you need to use a 2cm thick flange for it to work right thier is SOMEHTING very very wrong with that metal.. that should be plainly evident for even the biggest dullard.
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so sean from a-spec uses crap material too? he uses really thick flanges.

YOU made the claim, YOU back it up.

Indian

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So what should we do then doridori.......Buy a manifold from you?????LOL
Its people like you that have your head shoved so far up your *** that you can't even see how **** your getting. What makes your point so stupid and ours stronger is that, with all these non "certification" manifolds, no one can actually say that they have one (ssmani for fd, 2nd set) break on them.DULLARD.
All we can hear is blah blah blah blah out of you. If your so concern about proving your point then show proof turd. Your cursing about certification and it's this and that,well...show some factual info. I even said, that even if it broke it would have still been worth it because it was so cheap. But you had to go and show your chest like a baboon and still act the fool.
Since we all here who don't have nothing against the sscrome mani and don't know anything about metal like doridori, we'll just leave him alone with his expensive and "certified" manifols so we don't have to watch him shove them up his *** so he can cheack the puritiy of the particular alloy that he's complaining about.

Bro I don't know if you own a shop or not, but you have some aggression that needs to settle down. If you do own a shop well I feel bad for you customers who have to deal with your assholeish attitude. You remind me of some other shop owners in the forums. NAmes held disclosed by popular demand. You might know stuff but your presentation on the info is one of the worst I've seen.

And by the way, I've purchase one now, just for the kicks of it and because I can do whatever I want with MY money. Hope we meet on the road one day so we can test out manifolds .LMFAO



Keith

The Griffin

Nobody is arguing Bud.Post some facts.It may be crap,prove it instead of getting "bent out of shape". No pun intended.

FJDRX7

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got one for almost a year now with no problems, if the manifold get damage i buy another one, still save me a lot of $$$$