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rotorsownu 02-23-08 02:21 PM

My PFSupercars build
 
Just seeing if you guys like my new custom build from Ray Wilson. He has never done a build like this before, and it turned out very well. I've never been happier.
We expect big numbers from this build.

Engine has a Full Bridgeport, dowel pinned, 2pc eshaft, rotors clearanced and balanced, 2mm seals, new housings, new rotors, and some other stuff I forgot.


http://i27.tinypic.com/4rq29v.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/r8uk45.jpg

http://i28.tinypic.com/10qc3eo.jpg

http://i25.tinypic.com/m8d7bc.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/rh0tj5.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/2meztp4.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/1zowwuo.jpg

http://i25.tinypic.com/295aias.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/5caq14.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/23jn5a8.jpg

rotorsownu 02-23-08 02:24 PM

http://i31.tinypic.com/4p46.jpg

need RX7 02-23-08 02:31 PM

niiiiiice. love the plate :icon_tup:

G's 3rd Gen 02-23-08 02:51 PM

Nice!

dregg100 02-23-08 11:03 PM

numbers?

rotorsownu 02-24-08 10:00 AM

Just has a minor tune until I'm done breaking in motor. I'm running a 15lb wastegate spring, we're hoping around 530 on pump with methanol.

AnthonyNYC 02-24-08 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by rotorsownu (Post 7901490)
Just seeing if you guys like my new custom build from Ray Wilson. He has never done a build like this before, and it turned out very well. I've never been happier.

Congrats! When you say a build like this has not been done before, what exactly do you mean? The reason I ask is because it looks a lot like Ernie's build...

What intercooler core was that?

Anthony

AnthonyNYC 02-24-08 10:19 AM

This makes things easier!


https://i27.tinypic.com/4rq29v.jpg

https://i30.tinypic.com/r8uk45.jpg

https://i28.tinypic.com/10qc3eo.jpg

https://i25.tinypic.com/m8d7bc.jpg

https://i26.tinypic.com/rh0tj5.jpg

https://i29.tinypic.com/2meztp4.jpg

https://i30.tinypic.com/1zowwuo.jpg

https://i25.tinypic.com/295aias.jpg

https://i32.tinypic.com/5caq14.jpg

https://i26.tinypic.com/23jn5a8.jpg

GoodfellaFD3S 02-24-08 11:16 AM

I'd definitely think about getting some heat sleeving for that heater hose, the one that runs alongside the dp and underneath the compressor housing. Summit has Thermo-tec thermosleeving that's supposed to be good to 2000 degrees, in the 5/8th to 1 inch size it slides right over with no problems.

rotorsownu 02-24-08 11:28 AM

Thanks for makin things easier anthony haha it took forever to upload those pics cause I don't know how to just put them in thread like that. But if you look at the intercooler setup and radiator setup, you can see that the FMIC is in the engine bay instead of directly in the bumper area cause the intercooler is pretty big. It's a 4inch core. Ray said he never did a intercooler/radiator setup like this before. I wasn't stealing his setup or anything I guess we had similar plans power wise. After the motor is broken in i'm goin 42R. But yea goodfella, I was going to have everything wrapped and get a filter for the turbo shortly, just ran out of money after this build =\

AnthonyNYC 02-24-08 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by rotorsownu (Post 7903947)
Thanks for makin things easier anthony haha it took forever to upload those pics cause I don't know how to just put them in thread like that. But if you look at the intercooler setup and radiator setup, you can see that the FMIC is in the engine bay instead of directly in the bumper area cause the intercooler is pretty big. It's a 4inch core.

No problem. Did you buy that intercooler yourself? Do you know what intercooler core that is? It looks like one of those universal ones that I see a lot. If it is I am curious to see how much power they handle without issues. It kinda looks like this one...

https://images.channeladvisor.com/Se...dimensions.jpg

rotorsownu 02-24-08 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC (Post 7904083)
No problem. Did you buy that intercooler yourself? Do you know what intercooler core that is? It looks like one of those universal ones that I see a lot. If it is I am curious to see how much power they handle without issues. It kinda looks like this one...

https://images.channeladvisor.com/Se...dimensions.jpg

Yeah, I believe thats the one. I had it sitting around a while. But Ray said it'll handle my power goals which are around 700-750 so thats what matters haha.

AnthonyNYC 02-24-08 01:30 PM

Very nice, thanks! Keep us posted. Good luck with everything.

Anthony

mono4lamar 02-24-08 05:38 PM

Anthony, I noticed the same thing with that intercooler. What makes it stick out is the mounting bungs that they put on it.

rotorsownu do you remember the seller you got it from?

rotorsownu 02-24-08 10:22 PM

No sadly I don't. I only payed like $650 for it. Wasn't off ebay.

mono4lamar 02-25-08 05:04 PM

When are you getting numbers? Car looks really nice! I'm normally not a fan of the C-West side skirts but the front fenders accent them...

vel525 02-25-08 05:12 PM

Where in VA are you located?

rotorsownu 02-25-08 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by mono4lamar (Post 7909151)
When are you getting numbers? Car looks really nice! I'm normally not a fan of the C-West side skirts but the front fenders accent them...

probably next month after i finish breaking in motor. I gotta run a 2nd wastegate before i can get final numbers also. I live in Chesapeake

GoodfellaFD3S 02-25-08 07:20 PM

Why do you want a second wastegate?

Marcel Burkett 02-25-08 08:04 PM

Did Ray tell you that thet turbo will support your goal of 700-750 ?

diabolical1 02-25-08 08:27 PM

nice setup. i've been a fan of Ray's work for several months now. i'm sure making power won't be an issue given some of the cars he's built. i have 2 questions. first, i'm just curious which apex seals went into your motor. and second, what coating is that on your upper intake?

enjoy your car.

Fishey 02-25-08 08:54 PM

I have a question what turbo (exhaust A/R) and what exhaust manifold?

rotorsownu 02-26-08 11:20 AM

Goodfella, I have to run a 2nd wastegate to get rid of boost spike. Marcel, i'm only running this turbo for a little while get used to 550, then i'm gonna switch to a 42R, and thats when i'll be runnin 700-750. Fishey, it's a Garret T04R, with a 1.15 a/r. I purchased this kit from cheapturbo.com aka peakboost. It's a very nice peice.

rotorsownu 02-26-08 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by diabolical1 (Post 7909970)
nice setup. i've been a fan of Ray's work for several months now. i'm sure making power won't be an issue given some of the cars he's built. i have 2 questions. first, i'm just curious which apex seals went into your motor. and second, what coating is that on your upper intake?

enjoy your car.

I went with stock 2mm, thats what Ray prefers. I just took my UIM to a shop nearby to have it painted to look new, not sure what kinda paint.

mono4lamar 03-03-08 09:29 PM

Can you take a picture of your end tanks and measure the CORE length of your intercooler? Any new news?

ErnieT 03-04-08 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Marcel Burkett (Post 7909888)
Did Ray tell you that thet turbo will support your goal of 700-750 ?

If he switches to any 42R, he'll crack 700whp.

rotorsownu 03-08-08 09:43 AM

Cars now at PFS to get the tune. Turns out I had a bad leading coil that was causing the boost spike, so we'll see sometime this week with numbers

smackhead999 03-10-08 12:40 AM

intercooler
 
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i have that intercooler. i think mine says xso2 or o2xs. or something like that. but its like the exact same thing. not sure about the outside dimensions, but it is 4 inches thick. i bought it new from someone on the forum for 200.

mr2foryou 03-10-08 10:16 PM

Nice build man. Let us know how it turns out.

Dee E.

rotorsownu 03-10-08 10:24 PM

Thanks man

xr0m30x 03-10-08 11:39 PM

Nice!

joe-c 03-10-08 11:59 PM

very nice man cant wait to see some numbers. how much does he charge for dyno time?

rotorsownu 03-11-08 12:40 AM

Labor rate: $85.00/hr
Dyno tuning: $150.00/hr

rotorsownu 03-21-08 10:55 PM

Now I have a low compression motor at almost 1k miles, Rays gotta pull it out again. 12k lost =(. another 12k motor with either a 42R on 45R now

sk8world 03-21-08 11:47 PM

wow, that sucks. Who did the last build? Did you have nay issues before?

rotorsownu 03-21-08 11:57 PM

Ray at PFS did. IT was my fault, i didn't put enough premix oil in the gas when i filled it up.

mazgtr 03-22-08 08:24 AM

what? what?
1st of all with 1 thousand miles on the motor there is very VERY little that needs to be replaced. Almost everything should be within spec to be reused. The
only thing that I would recommed replacing are the part/ seal that failed..plus new springs and a gasketset
It could be a sideseal/cornerseal/apex seal that got stuck.. I doubt it could be a collapsed spring....


1) gasket set----use a FC N/A gasket set $150
2)buy all new springs (side seal, corner seal, apex seal springs
3)if it is a stuck seal then , you can file the rotor back to within spec
if its dented, replace rotor
4) Don't know what apex seal you used but some apes seal tend to break the tips off while other crack in the middle but magically stay in the groove.. replace apex seal
5)close motor and go= wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy less then 12K

rotorsownu 03-22-08 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by mazgtr (Post 8006296)
what? what?
1st of all with 1 thousand miles on the motor there is very VERY little that needs to be replaced. Almost everything should be within spec to be reused. The
only thing that I would recommed replacing are the part/ seal that failed..plus new springs and a gasketset
It could be a sideseal/cornerseal/apex seal that got stuck.. I doubt it could be a collapsed spring....


1) gasket set----use a FC N/A gasket set $150
2)buy all new springs (side seal, corner seal, apex seal springs
3)if it is a stuck seal then , you can file the rotor back to within spec
if its dented, replace rotor
4) Don't know what apex seal you used but some apes seal tend to break the tips off while other crack in the middle but magically stay in the groove.. replace apex seal
5)close motor and go= wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy less then 12K

Yeah, but i'm going a diff route...it's a complete bridgeported race everything motor. Onlt thing changing in my motor is ray putting race seals in it instead of 2mm. I'm goin custom 4inch exhaust, custom either 42R, or 45R, gonna need to run 6 injectors shooting for 800+ new ECU, built tranny and a few other things.

Marcel Burkett 03-22-08 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by rotorsownu (Post 8006301)
Yeah, but i'm going a diff route...it's a complete bridgeported race everything motor. Onlt thing changing in my motor is ray putting race seals in it instead of 2mm. I'm goin custom 4inch exhaust, custom either 42R, or 45R, gonna need to run 6 injectors shooting for 800+ new ECU, built tranny and a few other things.

Your new build sounds a lot like the one being finished up by someone I know pretty well !!

rotorsownu 03-22-08 05:45 PM

Lol who's that? time to smoke bikes on a daily bases. And I'm to addicted to this car to sell it, so I guess all I can do is eat my loss.

ErnieT 03-22-08 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Marcel Burkett (Post 8007212)
Your new build sounds a lot like the one being finished up by someone I know pretty well !!

:scratch: :wave:

rotorsownu 03-22-08 07:32 PM

lol, wasn't jocking anybodys goals. happen to have some what the same goal I guess. this was my plan a while back, but wanted to get used to 600 first, I didn't even have that chance just jumping straight from 500 to 850 depending on what turbo I choose,

Marcel Burkett 03-23-08 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by rotorsownu (Post 8007875)
lol, wasn't jocking anybodys goals. happen to have some what the same goal I guess. this was my plan a while back, but wanted to get used to 600 first, I didn't even have that chance just jumping straight from 500 to 850 depending on what turbo I choose,

Well maybe I was , because my build started after Ernie's and turned out very similar to his ! I did a couple things differently though, but it's still a "built " 13B with a "BIG" turbo (GT45R!) that I am expecting some NICE numbers from.

mono4lamar 03-23-08 08:04 PM

Nice to see a blown motor doesn't get you down :bigthumb:

rotorsownu 03-23-08 09:10 PM

haha I know right. I just looked at is as if "Damn I had to go back in the motor sooner or later again to make it stronger, better now than later to handle my new goals."

siguy2k 03-23-08 10:07 PM

Sounds awesome cant wait to see some #'s. When will the new one be built?

rotorsownu 03-24-08 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by siguy2k (Post 8011567)
Sounds awesome cant wait to see some #'s. When will the new one be built?

New ones being built now, waiting on the seals to arrive at PFS and turbo. Should be done in a month at the most. Cant wait to see these new high numbers myself.

rotorsownu 03-27-08 05:43 PM

Well, change of plans, I ran into a bad car situation. I sold both of my cars, now only car I have now is the FD until I buy a new car, so i'm not going with the eshaft, so I should have car back in 3 weeks max. Still should be hitting somewhere in 700's.

mr2foryou 03-27-08 06:10 PM

Nice!!!

rotorsownu 04-01-08 08:31 PM

Thanks, I changed my mind with the 42R, I'm going with a borg warner turbo thats a bit bigger than the 42R


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