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Old 10-27-02, 09:37 PM
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My Dyno results...FINALLY!

Here are the graphs of my tuning session October 26, 2002:



This graph shows my horsepower being achieved at a 12:1 air/fuel ratio at 17 psi. We wanted 11.4:1 under boost, so fuel was added. Notice in the graph how the run was halted well before redline. 460-470 rwhp was expected here if the run had continued.



Here is a graph at 1 bar of boost (14.7 psi).



Here is a graph at 17 psi - what I run on the street.
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They are some nice numbers! I'm still amazed that even with a large turbo and street porting, the power drops off at around 7300 rpms. I would think it would build power till at least 7500 rpms.
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Originally posted by Silver7
They are some nice numbers! I'm still amazed that even with a large turbo and street porting, the power drops off at around 7300 rpms. I would think it would build power till at least 7500 rpms.
I think he said he left off the gas at the higher rpms that's why you see the dropoff.
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what engine management do you have? who does your tuning?
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I'm using the Power FC and Datalogit. Ed Snef tunes my car. www.engineered.net .
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care to share a map with me!! noone around here tunes cars. what fuel system are you using?
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You can see my mods at www.royjohnsonjr.com .

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Nice run, Roy!
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More importantly Roy, share the logged session that goes with some of those runs (Datalogit log files). If you want some pretty graphs whiped up, I can do that and post them here.

And, unless you're running a 3-bar sensor, I think you might have been at less than 17psi according to the PFC. The data logs will show your boost. I am guessing you might have been at 16.8psi (most I every saw out of the standard 1.5bar sensor).

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i can't wait to dyno my car..... SOON!
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i can't wait to dyno my car..... SOON!
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wow i feel special chanting....

there is a mobile dyno 10 mins from my house... so probably gonna throw it on the dyno at low boost at first 10-12 psi... it is FULL RICH 10.00 on my wideband.... still pulls like a bat of hell though..... need to hook up my wideband to my haltech so i can datalog the AFR.... that will make my life tuning so much easier....

if i'm lucky i will have dyno sheets this coming week!
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wow i feel special chanting....

there is a mobile dyno 10 mins from my house... so probably gonna throw it on the dyno at low boost at first 10-12 psi... it is FULL RICH 10.00 on my wideband.... still pulls like a bat of hell though..... need to hook up my wideband to my haltech so i can datalog the AFR.... that will make my life tuning so much easier....

if i'm lucky i will have dyno sheets this coming week!
Did you some major named tuners still don't datalog their tuning sessions?!
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Did you some major named tuners still don't datalog their tuning sessions?!
i didn't know that. i have never asked anyone if they do it. i just assumed they did. why the hell wouldn't you want to datalog..... too lazy hit the button to start it ?? LOL
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Roy,
Your first graph shows 17 psi (456) then your last graph shows 17 psi (439)..?
Anyhow, Great numbers....
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Nice numbers!!!
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Your first graph shows 17 psi (456) then your last graph shows 17 psi (439)..?
They added fuel, chief.

Nice numbers, Roy! Question....why is it that all the american turbo companies bash the T-78 and claim the T-66 is so much better? Has anyone actually seen a T-66 put down similar or better numbers?
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Re: My Dyno results...FINALLY!

Looks good Roy,
from looking at your first graph, it seems like you were running too rich in mid range and then at around 6.3krpm, it was running a little lean which (i think) causing your timing retard. Correct me if I'm wrong but i think your timing is a little advanced for 17psi at the higher rpm. on a side note, I think you were using a wideband at the exhaust pipe? becareful on that map, you'll run leaner when you are actually on the road.






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Here are the graphs of my tuning session October 26, 2002:



This graph shows my horsepower being achieved at a 12:1 air/fuel ratio at 17 psi. We wanted 11.4:1 under boost, so fuel was added. Notice in the graph how the run was halted well before redline. 460-470 rwhp was expected here if the run had continued.



Here is a graph at 1 bar of boost (14.7 psi).



Here is a graph at 17 psi - what I run on the street.
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can you email the map to me. thanks alot.

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Does Ed mess with timing? I have a hunch he didn't in the past. What is your timing from peak torque on up?
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Congratulations - Very impressive numbers -
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Looks good Roy,
from looking at your first graph, it seems like you were running too rich in mid range and then at around 6.3krpm, it was running a little lean which (i think) causing your timing retard. Correct me if I'm wrong but i think your timing is a little advanced for 17psi at the higher rpm. on a side note, I think you were using a wideband at the exhaust pipe? becareful on that map, you'll run leaner when you are actually on the road.
The O2 was right at the downpipe past the AR housing. With this info., how do you feel about it on the road?

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My timing maps came from Scott at www.rx7.com (Ari's shop).
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Can you somehow post your maps?


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