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Old 01-18-03, 07:56 AM
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Long post, you up to the challange??

Warning: This is a long rant and post, so if you don’t have time to waste don’t bother with this and go elsewhere:

First off, thanks for making the attempt, so here we go:

Ok, I know this is probably not the section I should post this in, however, I believe this is one of the only section in the forum where I or people with experience with owning an RX-7 can be taken seriously. Posting in the lounge is a joke, and the 3rd gen section is too filled with newbies now for me to post anything technical or serious, plus I don’t want to give them any ideas that would ultimately destroy or horribly disfigure their car.

I get a lot of **** about my car being mainly a show queen or a trailer queen with out the power to back it up, and I seriously don’t care what others who aren’t on my level of the game or understand what I am doing, think. They can all kiss my *** and I will build the car as I see fit. But it is true that I do not really post a lot about my performance modifications, mainly because its just too long to list all of it, gets repetitive, and if I did, then I doubt my car would really be unique as far as I’m concern. Believe it or not, I drive the car almost nightly and run the **** out of it, since I strongly believe the reason you modify your car is to drive it, other wise its just a waste of space. Ask anyone who has met me or gone out on a cruise with me and they will tell you once my car gets in the canyons or freeway it becomes a ******* rocket (search for the bling bling crew midnight runs if you don’t believe me.)

Now, sure I’m still running sequential 99 spec OEM turbos and many people already come to the conclusion if it isn’t single, its ******* slow or not modded enough. Let me tell you, I’ve race plenty of cars with single turbo: supras, other FDs, Mustangs, Cameros, Z06s and plenty other fast cars, and I hang with the best of them and even beat them. I’m not exactly sure what my rwhp is at the moment, but gauging from my ¼ mile times, hp figures others get with mods less or equal to mine, I am sure my tuned FD makes well over 360 rwhp on a 2900 1b car; believe me or not. I’ve run high 11’s to low 12’s in the past with fewer mods I have now, but with the aid of NOS and high boost. And according to my tuning on an emissions dyno (sorry no jet dyno figures for you yet) and the readings on my G-tech pro competition my car is still capable of high 11’s to low 12’s at 12 psi, street tires and no nitrous. Now you are all wondering what makes my visibly mainly stock FD so amazingly fast , since I don’t have time slips or a legit dyno sheet right?

Well, I never really cared to keep my slips of all my runs during test and tune days at Palmdale 3 years ago, cause I had nothing to brag about, was scared shitless to even try to race at IDRC and I didn’t know about the internet at the time or how important it would be to back up claims. I blew my motor cause of my heavy addiction to drag racing, so I shyed away from the track and decided to try shows which would give me less headaches and sponsorships. I have also posted my emissions tuning dyno sheet from before a year or so back if you do want to see it, but everyone wants a jet dyno sheet, so I’ll work on that. But for now, what I can show you is my G-tech results which is not 100% accurate as going to the track, but just about 99.90% close enough, and it allows me to practice and tune my car accordingly until I am ready go back to the track again.

Just a couple of test runs I did over the weekend:

First run I did. The time wasn’t too bad, but I pretty was happy with the mph tho…

Irrelevant, but just wanted to show some capabilities of the G-Tech Comp

This is the kicker feature some of you might like, RPM Vs Time Graph


Ok at this point I had close to 900 miles broken into the motor and decided to up the boost a little more to 12psi, however it spiked to 1 bar I believe for a sec or two and was pleasantly surprised with my results, although my mph was off, because I kept accelerating after the 1/4 mark:

Some more 60ft times, 1/8 ect…

RPM Vs Time again….


In about 2 weeks I will get the car tuned again, and try to find a jetdyno to see if my estimated HP can be realized and if not, oh well…. But I should be doing the single turbo conversion soon, so I wont really mind sacrificing these twins to see exactly how much I can push out of them :P: Oh and btw, I am not sponsored by G-Tech pro, but I have met both Martian, and Jovo, the designers of the G-Tech pro and I did not show you all the feature it can do cause there are just too many, and I really really love this product, it is the best measuring tool for your car I have come across in a long time. It even does braking distance, measures G’s in a turn, and they are all downloadable to your PC, and there software is also updated to add more features. I defiantly recommend one no matter what type of racing you do.

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Now I got that out of the way, the first thing people like to give me **** about is my smog pump or single turbo…. First off, come on it’s a ******* smog pump… and does dittily to rob power, and I live in CA where if you don’t have it on when your driving, your pretty much fucked. I even disconnected the fuse for it does that make you happy? Oh and yeah my car has a hi-flow cat, and down pipe, and muffler as well, so putting visual inspection aside, I can pass emissions with flying colors. So my cars exhaust is basically restrictive like stock now, so how do I still manage to be smog legal and pull over 360 rwhp you say? Easy… I have an electric DP bypass valve wielded and installed that by passes my whole exhaust system when I want to race or just scare the **** out of people:



Ok, so that’s not enough for you to believe my car can make that much power you say, well obviously my car has some kind of a port (secret ), and I have the J-spec 99’ sequential turbos which help out a great deal believe it or not, and they will hold up to over a conservative 14.5 psi (I think 19 psi is as far as I tried) for short burst if you tune it properly and taper the boost as it gets closer to redline. These turbos can take more abuse then you think with proper fueling and tuning. Key word “proper fueling”

Oh yes, I forgot, I never really showed pics of my rear compartment as well…. Well here:




That helps me out a little too, but I solemnly use it (only used it at the track before, but will start to use a little more when I get my single turbo in order), since I personally think my car is fast enough just on 10 psi of boost (a stock FD with stock boost is already faster then 80% of the cars on the road anyways). You many think my kit weights a ton as well, but the added fenders and everything without me in the car only weights 2700lbs according to a recycling center scale, so that’s only 100 lbs or less over stock. I have also taken aerodynamic classes in collage as well and did some 3D rendering in Solid Works and some in Pro/E as well, and I’m sure my design of the car would be pretty stable over 180 mph, with the fenders tucking in the wheels a little to create less drag (which, I personally took the car out to test its satiability at a slower speed of 150 mph to make sure ) I have all the basic bolt-ons of course and a couple more custom parts on my car which some I showed, but I don’t like to reveal everything, not even in magazines, mainly cause there my ideas and it is what makes my car special to me. But basically what I’m saying is, I’m not the fastest car out there by any means, but it’s not a slow showboat OEM FD by any standard. I just thought it was about time I clarified some things, rant at the same time, and set the record straight cause I get a lot of ignorant AIMs, emails and PMs telling me what to do or not. I build my car on my own time, and do what I feel like what I want to do, and just wanted to create something a little more unique then other cars. But that does not mean I slacked off on the performance part to do so. As some of you know, I am going single turbo soon (cause I’ve done too much to the car already… oh no am I almost done!??), but I’m taking my time on it, cause I want it to my specs and designs, but that does not in any way mean I am dissatisfied with the performance of my car as it is now. I am very happy with my car and hope others can appreciate what I try to do as well, cause I never (ok, rarely. But they deserved it) put down anyone else’s work and am proud to find people like me who bring new ideas and do amazing things to the car I love most. Basically, I will never forget what the true sprit of the RX-7 was meant to be…. “The dam best exotic sports car that ever came out of Japan.”

Thank you for those that read this very long post and sorry for taking away 1 hour of your time

It took me 3 to write it

-Marvin

Word count :1805 (I whish I was this focus when I wrote my term papers )

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RE: Long post, you up to the challange??

what was the challange? did i miss the question somewhere? i am NOT going back and reading that agian.
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It all garbage anyways..... I was bored and drunk, so I just decided to write to myself or something......I got a speeding ticket tonite, so I decided to stayhome and try to do something productive... but ended up writing a freaking diary in the life of my car or something.... very sad now that I look at what I wrote.....
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Originally posted by rxrotary2_7
RE: Long post, you up to the challange??

what was the challange? did i miss the question somewhere? i am NOT going back and reading that agian.
I guess the challange was to see how far you could read through the post without falling asleep
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is that a rotormotor$port banner on your car in the sig?
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thanks for reminding me....
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how acurate are those g-tech???
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For most of the features that the drag mode set up uses, from my experiences, as wel as with it others, the G-Tech is either Dead on or only .010th of a sec off in some cases if used and set up properly. Reaction time, 60ft times, 0-60, 1/8 of a mile, ect.... are also very accurate, depending on your run. The only thing I hear some people say that the Gtech has a problem with is recording the correct trap speed sometimes. Which in my case, on some of my runs if I continue to go WOT past the idicated 1/4 mark, the Gtech will keep recordoing my acceleration speed even tho it has recorded my 1/4 mile time already. However, in most cases the trap speeds are pretty accurate with only a margin of a few mph in certian cases. The product has only been out for really a year and they are still updating the firmware with more features and improving its accuracy. So for 250 dollars, the Gtech is just about the cheapest dyno, accelerometer, take-anywhere drag strip, built-in shift and cornering light, and it even comes with an electronic built in RPM guage to boot. It also has alot more other features as well, some I dont even use yet, but its a top notch product. So, yeah its pretty dam accurate, anyways.
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I read it! Do I win a prize?
GTech measures MPH at the end of the 1/4. In a real 1/4 it measures over the last 60' (I thought it was 100' for a while)
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I read it in about 5 minutes
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Originally posted by Felix Wankel
I read it in about 5 minutes
Now did you just skim thru it or actually read the whole thing in 5 minutes .... Cause I reread it again, and lost intrest about 1/2 way thru and totally forgot why I even bothered or what lead me to post it in the first place.... I think I was very drunk (notice the Heiniken behind the Gtech ) and had alot of non-sense to say at the time and it just came out all at once and didnt really have a point.... However, I must admit as drunk as I was, I think I did a pretty good job writing, attacting the images, and putting the post together if I do say so myself ..... But, being somewhat more sober now, I just want to say.... I think I Carona taste better then Heiniken, but Heiniken is cheaper
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Crashunit - you are a lush...hahah welcome to the lush-FD-club...

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this is the gayest post i've ever read. you say you don't care what other people think of your pos yet you spent 3 hrs. defending it.
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Originally posted by fdracer
this is the gayest post i've ever read. you say you don't care what other people think of your pos yet you spent 3 hrs. defending it.
Well then you shouldnt have read it . Like I said above, I was "drunk" when I posted it and even somewhat apologized for posting it. But as gay as you thought about my post, you sure took your time to read the whole dam thing and even post back, so it couldnt have been all that gay, now could it?

P.S. Oh, and dont reply, so this thread can just go away, you wont feel so gay anymore and we can pretend I never posted it. Okydoky?

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I doubt you got 0-60 in 4.1 with stock twins. What did you do....throw the G-Tech into the air as hard as you could to get that reading? Must have been pissed and went home and got drunk and posted this waste of time on our forum.
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Marvin,

There is the street legal drag event at Fontana comming up the weekend of Feb 15.

Drag your car in a real environment and see what it does.

I ran my car back in December the results are in my sig.

You can return my hood prop to me there as well.
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Originally posted by Crashunit
.... I think I Carona taste better then Heiniken, but Heiniken is cheaper
Ahhhhh.. your post was fine but that is just lunacy! Corona tastes like water! Try Pacifico if you like Mexican beer..

j/k man.. don't worry about what other people say, do what you want with your money. Nice car, maybe I'll run across you sometime in LA.

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