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Injecting pump gas through primaries and race fuel through secondaries

Old Apr 4, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Injecting pump gas through primaries and race fuel through secondaries

I was wondering if this idea would work out well. I figured it would allow you to cruise around below where the secondary come on and not have to burn up your race fuel. I would imagine 2 fuel cells in a custom setup in the rear , 10 gallon perhaps. So then just run a feed and a return to both with a regulator in between both. Issues i could see with this would be an increase tunning time and issues with choosing what kinda plugs to run. Does anyone else have any opinions on this setup good or bad?

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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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I think that would be a pita to tune and you'd always have to run race gas. What would probably work better would be in stall 2 more injectors and use an additional injector controller to control them....then hook those up to race fuel, alcy, or whatever.

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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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Ya I dont think thats a good idea..

What could work is to run two gas tanks, on with pump and one with race gas. YOu can put a fuel cell in the trunk, with a valve near drivers seat to turn the tanks on or off. Then use whatever to change your tunes form pump to race gas settings.

What is even easier, is just put in race gas when you know your going to use it or race.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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Run water or water/alcohol injection system. There are guys running in excess of 20psi on pump gas and the systems they have out today are very tuneable. They can be set to come on time based, boost referenced and some a programmable just depends how much you want to dish out. It would be more cost efficient than buying race fuel last I checked C16 was like $9.50 per gal.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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Or you could do the DIY race gas using xylene/toluene and ethanol. My now defunct company needed to to get rid some chemicals (xylene and ethanol) and I made my own concoction. I have a spreadsheet which calculates the resulting octane and cost.

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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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please post that spread sheet
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Yes, please do post that spreadsheet. I'd like to see how to do that. It would end up being MUCH cheaper.

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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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octane boosters

Originally Posted by cmartinp28
please post that spread sheet
http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/misc/octanebooster.html
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 01:57 AM
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If you are going to the trouble of injecting another fuel through your secondaries why not make it methanol?

Hell yeah 1000hp 13b!
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/misc/octanebooster.html

MAKE YOUR OWN OCTANE BOOST
How to make your own octane booster (this is the basic formula of one of the popular octane booster products). To make eight 16 ounce bottles (128 oz = 1 gal):

100 oz of toulene for octane boost
25 oz of mineral spirits (cleaning agent)
3 oz of transmission fluid (lubricating agent)

This product is advertised as "octane booster with cleaning agent *and* lubricating agent!". Diesel fuel or kerosene can be substituted for mineral spirits and light turbine oil can be substituted for transmission fluid. Color can be added with petroleum dyes.

So add that to a full tank of premium and get ~approx 100 octane?
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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YouŽd definately be running into the whole diminishing returns bit when you factor in costs for tuning, time for trouble shooting, cost for gear to make this happen, et cetera.
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