GT40R vs. Innovative GT66
02-15-04, 11:01 AM
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it's cool, but my turbo cost signifcantly more than 1800, when you add the bb option and q-trim..
as far as the guy who doubted the liklihood of this car doing well in the ussc....lets see, this car is not made to go down a drag strip, it was built for the road course....hks coilovers, m2 toelinks trailing arms, racing beat swaybars, diff brace, brembo grantourismo brakes, usually all that crap isn't for going straight, the only reason i have such a big turbo is for highway runs
as far as the guy who doubted the liklihood of this car doing well in the ussc....lets see, this car is not made to go down a drag strip, it was built for the road course....hks coilovers, m2 toelinks trailing arms, racing beat swaybars, diff brace, brembo grantourismo brakes, usually all that crap isn't for going straight, the only reason i have such a big turbo is for highway runs
02-15-04, 12:04 PM
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Wow, more than 1800? I was quoted at $1895 for their GT66 which I believe came with a P or Q trim, full ball bearing, water cooled center section.
I'd ditch the HKS shocks if I were you. Undoubtedly the rubber you'll use will make a greater difference, but there are better coil-over setups out there that have superior damping. I'd consider a set of triple adjustable Penskes or if you want something that'll drop right in and is double adjustable, go with Aragosta out of Japan. Also, www.ntechengineering.com can get you a four wheel Brembo kit that was designed by Mark Valasik(sp?) that's a substantial step up from their front-only kit.
I think what Tony was trying to say (Badog) is that it's often best to keep it simple, consistent, and most importantly, to finish. All of the past winners didn't necessarily place in the top three in every category. The 350Z winning this year really emphasizes that. If you're putting down a solid 380-400hp at low boost settings, you can win given a proper suspension setup. Ya just have to finish!
I'd ditch the HKS shocks if I were you. Undoubtedly the rubber you'll use will make a greater difference, but there are better coil-over setups out there that have superior damping. I'd consider a set of triple adjustable Penskes or if you want something that'll drop right in and is double adjustable, go with Aragosta out of Japan. Also, www.ntechengineering.com can get you a four wheel Brembo kit that was designed by Mark Valasik(sp?) that's a substantial step up from their front-only kit.
I think what Tony was trying to say (Badog) is that it's often best to keep it simple, consistent, and most importantly, to finish. All of the past winners didn't necessarily place in the top three in every category. The 350Z winning this year really emphasizes that. If you're putting down a solid 380-400hp at low boost settings, you can win given a proper suspension setup. Ya just have to finish!
02-15-04, 02:03 PM
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Amen. I just want to live longer then the rest of you all...
Like I said, we'll root for you if you enter the FD. But you'll have to make us proud by being smart.
Like I said, we'll root for you if you enter the FD. But you'll have to make us proud by being smart.
02-15-04, 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by rx7tt95
Yes, that's exactly how mine is leaking! I also have too much shaft play hence the need for a new turbo. I run a -3AN line now so it's a fairly small line. But I'll try it and see if the smoke will go away. It'd be well worth it because it's a major PITA. What exactly are you using as a restrictor and where did you place it? I still have the bajo bolt inlet on mine. I also replaced the oil drain line which seemed to help a bit.
Yes, that's exactly how mine is leaking! I also have too much shaft play hence the need for a new turbo. I run a -3AN line now so it's a fairly small line. But I'll try it and see if the smoke will go away. It'd be well worth it because it's a major PITA. What exactly are you using as a restrictor and where did you place it? I still have the bajo bolt inlet on mine. I also replaced the oil drain line which seemed to help a bit.
My restrictor is right at the turbo. To stop the oil from draining onto my header I put in a .060" but once that cured the problem I eventually upped the size to .081" and still no oil drips so that's what I have been running for over 3k miles. The restrictor itself is the banjo bolt I drilled/taped for a 1/16" socket head pipe plug. I drilled a few plugs to .060", .070" and a .081". I did it this way so I could "tune" my oil restrictor. I think the feed banjo bolt in my turbo is M10x1.5 and I'm assuming yours is the same. It's pretty easy to turn the bolt itself to a restrictor, all you need is a 1/4" drill bit and a 1/16" pipe tap. After to drill/tap it all you need to do is head down to the hardware store and pick up some socket head pipe plugs and some small *** drill bits.
02-16-04, 10:38 AM
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Yep, thats how I thought of doing it...but as a shortcut I used a dowel pin in the fitting leading up to the banjo bolt. Reduced the area by about half. Just came back from driving around on assignment and no such luck...still blowing oil. I may try a slightly larger pin to see if that works. There is about triple the amount of shaft play as there was when I first received the turbo from Majestic. Its definitely increasing with time. I believe its starting to come into contact with the turbine housing. I try not to get into boost anymore. The new turbo arrived this morning I may try your method tonight. Ace Harware is right next door to the paper and they always have the stuff Im looking for!
I may try your method tonight. Ace Harware is right next door to the paper and they always have the stuff Im looking for!
02-17-04, 12:00 AM
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i hope we do well also, we have a really good driver, steve "genghis" kahn, he is also the tuner and the mechanic.....i can drive, but not good enough to represent the rx-7's....as far as the parts we have chosen, such as the coilovers and brakes, we got really really really good deals on them, plus this is a street car, not a full blown race car with unlimited budget..
to the guy that said innovative quoted him the turbo for 1800, yeah me too until i added the bb opition(list 400), q-trim(list 400) and polishing....it's not cheap...
to the guy that said innovative quoted him the turbo for 1800, yeah me too until i added the bb opition(list 400), q-trim(list 400) and polishing....it's not cheap...
02-17-04, 01:16 AM
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I'll be the main driver for the competition so tuning and driving shouldn't be an issue. My main objective it to dyno 550rwhp, traps 130+mph, 25mpg, and still pass emission in this car. We'll see how it goes. 
02-17-04, 08:55 AM
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You know what else I would consider for the car? An M2 rollcage (or maybe Steve and the guys at Gotham could weld something up?). Would make a BIG difference in handling.
02-17-04, 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by rx7tt95
I was quoted $1895 WITH the ball bearing option, GT66 turbo, Q trim unpolished.
I was quoted $1895 WITH the ball bearing option, GT66 turbo, Q trim unpolished.
02-18-04, 07:35 AM
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A bit bigger...you'd really need to do a custom hot side or have an all-out drag car for one of those. They come standard with something like a 5" V-band setup. There's one at the local shop. I'll try and swing by and take a pic side by side with my GT40(82).
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02-18-04, 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by rx7tt95
Damn, but the exchange rate (Euros) is so good now...not so your local currency?
Damn, but the exchange rate (Euros) is so good now...not so your local currency?
02-19-04, 07:35 PM
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A bit bigger...you'd really need to do a custom hot side or have an all-out drag car for one of those. They come standard with something like a 5" V-band setup. There's one at the local shop. I'll try and swing by and take a pic side by side with my GT40(82).
Michel
A bit bigger...you'd really need to do a custom hot side or have an all-out drag car for one of those. They come standard with something like a 5" V-band setup. There's one at the local shop. I'll try and swing by and take a pic side by side with my GT40(82).
Michel
Thx for the reply. The Gt42 BB w/1.22 A/R was what I'm planning on using for my 20b.
02-19-04, 10:11 PM
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The GT42R is a very good choice for a 20B, not only can I get my hands on them really quickly but I can give you numbers as what to expect and when and what setup to go with. Backed by alot of experience with the setup 
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