Single Turbo RX-7's Questions about all aspects of single turbo setups.

a good Explination of A/R?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 10, 2003 | 01:47 PM
  #1  
JTurtonRX_7's Avatar
Thread Starter
EFR IWG 8374
Tenured Member 20 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 635
Likes: 0
From: C. Springs
a good Explination of A/R?

Search was useless. Im pretty sure it has something to do with the size of the turbine and the whole circle or something like that. But how do you know what kind of A/R you need for any given application and how do different A/R's work. Like what benefits do a big A/R have over a smaller. Any info would be helpful.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2003 | 05:10 PM
  #2  
fatboy7's Avatar
Got Boost?
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,066
Likes: 1
From: Watertown, MA
A/R is a ratio. Area/Radius

The lower the ratio, the higher the exhaust velocity is through the turbine. Higher velocity help spool the turbo, and thus small A/R ratio turbos will build boost earlier. This increase of velocity comes as an expense - small A/R ratios are more restrictive, so top end might suffer.

In and of itself the A/R ratio is not a good for comparison between two vastly different turbos. This is due to the fact that it is a ratio. Larger tubines have larger wheels. This means the radius of the snail (for lack of a better word) will also be higher - thus at the same A/R the larger turbine will be less restrictive than the small turbine.

Expirence is about the only way to know really what A/R to use with which turbo. I'm sure if you had an engineering degree and access to the complete specifications for both the compressor and the turbine it would be a simple matter of choosing what compromises you wish to make, but that not being the case, about the only thing you really can do is ask for others experiance/expertise.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2003 | 05:38 PM
  #3  
T88NosRx7's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,559
Likes: 1
From: Seattle, WA
nice
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2003 | 07:26 AM
  #4  
Rutt's Avatar
Is that you John Wayne?
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 871
Likes: 0
From: Japan
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=210078
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2003 | 10:35 AM
  #5  
BoostedRex's Avatar
NorCal 7's Co-founder
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 4,130
Likes: 5
From: Rocklin, CA
My question is, how much suffering on the high end would you have by changing from a 1.00 A/R on a T04R to say a .84 or a .91 A/R on the same turbo?? I'm thinking that a 1.00 or a 1.15 would just take too long to spool off of a 13B, even though I'm going to have a half bp job done. Any advice with the A/R on this one?? Thanks in advance.

Zach
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2003 | 07:55 PM
  #6  
BenzaLee's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
From: Monterey
In and of itself the A/R ratio is not a good for comparison between two vastly different turbos. This is due to the fact that it is a ratio. Larger tubines have larger wheels. This means the radius of the snail (for lack of a better word) will also be higher - thus at the same A/R the larger turbine will be less restrictive than the small turbine.
Whats good for comparison then besides just plain experience, compressor maps?
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:46 AM.