FC3S Murray

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So all gas stations up here in Monatan finally went to 10 percent ethonal in all octane ratings. I have to use **** 91 octane since that is as high as we get.

My question is I am about to start WOT full boost tuning on my Apexi PFC 62-1 S4 TII setup and am wondering what does this extra 10% of ethonal mean for tuning dangers?

Will it cause good or bad effects? I am shooting for 380 rwhp at 15psi and don't want to **** it up. I'm already running conservative timing at redline but just want to see what others have found out about this hybrid fuel.

Thanks.

FC3S Murray

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I did some searching and further research. The total concensus is that I will need to add a slight bit of more fuel in the top end .So far all I can find is that this 10% addition of Ethonal will cause a 3% lean increase.

So I guess since my maps are already rich for safety until fine tuned, I will be OK.

Any other input is appreciated.

rob81gsl

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you will be running leaner. make sure you retune!

Rocking Rotary

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Most states in the midwest have done this. The state goverment has told us that there are no adverse affects from going from 5 to 10 percent ethonal.
With the boost in ethonal it does take a small amount more fuel but it does add a little bit more protection against detenation. If your running the PFC base map you should be plenty fine till you get the car tuned. Good luck on your tune.

cewrx7r1

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That is bogus. If you had 93 oct fuel and added 10% ethanol, yes the oct average would go up. But you are forgetting the business aspect of it. They sell 93oct gas, so now they produce a product that with the 10 ethanol is still 93 oct by using a lower oct gas for the 90%.

arghx

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^ exactly. It was 93 octane before, without the ethanol, and now it's still 93 octane, you just need to burn more fuel.

FC3S Murray

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bastards!

PandazRx-7

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Isn't 10% ethanol a good thing if your tuned for it? Here in Cali it's 91 octane at the pump, but if 10% is ethanol, doesn't that allow us to push a bit more on pump?



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Rocking Rotary

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It all depends on the fuel supplier. Diffrent tankers mix the fuels diffrently. When they mix E85 in this state it veries a few precent. Right now its more like E65. So its not all bogus.

I dont think California mixes any ethonal in there fuel. There's not to much corn cultivation going on around there.