13bturbofc

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So i was planning on sticking with my current setup then just adding meth injection to up the power but i came across some extra cash so im re doing my whole turbo setup as well. I'm currently running S5 stock port motor, kg rails SS lines aeromotive reg, 850cc pri and 1600cc sec, T04R turbo with divided .84 turbine housing, Greddy log cast manifold undivided, greddy FMIC system, RB full exhaust with modified downpipe, 47mm greddy type R waste gate (open).
Heres my plans for the new setup. Turblown is going to build me a custom manifold/downpipe and provide the T04Z turbo as well. here is what im having them make for me..

Garrett T04Z divided not sure what AR turbine housing yet.
long runner divided manifold with flange for greddy type R WG and one egt bung in each tube 1 inch from engine flange also plugs for the bungs.
3.5 inch downpipe one side to fit V-band T04Z and other to mate to RB pre cat, recirculated WG with the small flexpipe possibly? and a wideband O2 sensor bung welded in..

setup will be similar to this but with a long runner manifold.

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does anyone have anymore suggestions for this custom setup? its just in the beginning stages now, we havent started building anything yet we are just disusing different options. So id love to hear some other opinions from folks here who know alot about these setups..Main thing id like to figure out is what AR. to get for turbine housing. im thinking go big because its going to spool very fast even on my stock ports because this is about the best manifold/downpipe you can get and the dual BB T04Z is a fast spooling turbo compared to my T04R. i was thinking a 1.15 divided housing? is that to big for my setup? and also shall i get the anti surge housing or the standard?

13bturbofc

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wow no responses yet..that sucks. elliot at turblown is starting on this project this weekend so any opinions from folks here would be greatly appreciated

13bturbofc

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how do all you guys run the coolant lines for the turbo? i already have everything needed for the oil lines but my old T04R wasn't water cooled so i have to start from scratch on the T04Z. i know the upper coolant line for the stock turbo has a flange type fitting. How do you adapt that to AN lines? And to make the lower one easy i guess im going to use AN fittings with SS line but only use a fitting on the turbo end, then use stock nipple on waterpump housing by not putting a fitting on the SS line. ill just use it like a regular rubber hose by using a hose clamp on it..

13bturbofc

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im not going to post it in the for sale section for a while but when i get this whole setup on the car im going to have for sale my whole current setup if anyone wants it, i had the turbo rebuilt from blouch turbo like 2 months ago and it only has about 500 miles on it, only parts that are not new on it are the housings. i will also have a greddy cast manifold and custom modified racing beat downpipe made to fit right from the turbo to a racing beat exhaust system...i made 380 whp at 15 psi it would make 500 at around 20psi on the setup.. im doing a dyno test with the anti surge housing on the T04Z then swapping on the smooth housing from the T04R so we can finally have a back to back comparison of the efficiency difference with the anti surge..

arghx

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this a 2nd gen correct?

you could get a 6AN aluminum fitting welded on to the water pump housing barb. then drill a hole in the coolant blockoff plate and weld on a steel 6AN bung.

http://www.racepartssolutions.com/products.asp?cat=20

has weld-on bungs.

If you are on stock port I wouldn't go bigger than 1.00 A/R .

13bturbofc

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yes this is a second gen, Im going to be fucked on the fitting on the waterpump housing. the factory turbo coolant hose goes to that nipple on the housing near the lower rad hose correct? and then the other has the flange at the lower intake manifold right? the nipple on the waterpump housing for the lower hose is filled with jb weld! haha so i guess im going to have to remove the housing and try to drill out the jb weld.
As for the turbine size.. Elliot at turblown said that with this monster 4 inch downpipe, long runner manifold and the bearing turbo he says we should go with a 1.15 AR turbine housing because with that setup its going to perform like a 1.00

edit* thanks for the link. so on the top line i weld that bung to the block off plate and for the lower one, do i remove the whole nipple and weld the bung to the water pump housing??

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update: The turbo setup from turblown is almost complete, we have added a 4 inch ambient air intake for the turbo that has some impressive proven power gains. It goes through the inner wheel well down into where the brake duct would be on a stock front bumper. not only does it give impressive power gains but also from what ive seen it looks crazy nice. Also check out the location of the wastegate, its a new design that he said he has only done once before, i think it looks awesome and it makes for simple connections to a boost controller. I can not wait to get this stuff on my car and go dyno tune it for 20-25 psi haha. enjoy the pics, more updates soon. And also wanted to let everyone know if you need anything like this made contact Elliot at Turblown, great guy awesome customer service and top notch fabrication.. PS the car in the pics is his mock up chassis, it isnt the car this setup is going in, car in last pic is my car..

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PvillKnight7

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That wastegate location scares me

13bturbofc

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really? why do you think that its a bad location?

PvillKnight7

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All that radiant heat is going to go into you intake manifold, brake line, wiper motor...I like to put them under the car when they're exposed to more air flow

rx72c

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The manifold in the first pic is better then yours.

Shorter manifolds work alot better.

Then again. theirs no reason why your manifold wont work.

13bturbofc

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actually the longer manifold puts the high temp turbine housing away from the intake manifold which lowers intake temps. why do yu think shorter is better?

ProjectD

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Shorter runners provide better responce and spool.

classicauto

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That setup looks bad *** man.

Any of the "losses" you might possibly see with that wastegate placement (which IMO it won't really matter) can be taken care of with heat wrap/sheilding.

Make sure to post more shots of this intake, I'd love to see how its routed to save the washer bottle

jknapik

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price of old turbo setup?? curious how much its worth

13bturbofc

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short runners make for faster spool? i always thought it was the other way around?? regardless i don't think there would be any noticeable difference considering how much this is going to lower intake temps allowing for more power... also (classicauto) i havent seen the exact location of where the intake goes through but im almost sure that ill have to remove the washer bottle..ive never used it anyway so it dosent matter to me, this car dosent see rain or snow conditions so its not so important.
as for the old turbo setup, ill have pics up soon and it will be for sale, id like to sell everything together manifold/turbo and downpipe. not sure on exact price yet..

PvillKnight7

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When do you expect to have it all finished for testing?

13bturbofc

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this is a quote from the guy building the manifold he builds manifolds for a living so he knows what he is talking about, sounds to me like the long runner is the better choice for our cars..

"We prefer to make long runner turbo manifolds just so you gain more clearance between your lower intake manifold and the 1600 degree turbine housing. There is a noticeably power difference being able to isolate a lot of heat from the lower intake manifold. Otherwise there really isn't that big of a difference between the two"

doridori-rx7

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You better be using 321 SS otherwise that lovely and pretty, but otherwise useless manifold is going to crack the first time you get to sag temp with the high moment loading of that turbo..

Your builder doesn't know what he's doing as his sole reason for making it long was for aesthetics as the rest of his explanation is more or less ricer double speak.

siguy2k

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Looks nice! ^Turblown has been around for awhile doing great fabrication work. Quit hating on his setup, lets see your awesome fab skills genius?

PvillKnight7

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+1

Lots of people can fab a manifold that bolts up but not everyone takes the time to learn how to do it right.

This is a good design:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ld+fabrication

13bturbofc

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are you guys serious? lol did you read my first post? Turblown is building this manifold, go do a little research on how top notch the manifolds are that they make.. last time i checked moving the the heat of the turbo away from the intake manifold is not for aesthetics..and something tells me that when you pay 1k for a manifold, its made of quality steel that is going to last a long long time. Im shocked by the haters disliking this setup!! doridori-rx7 you are an ignorant retard to think that turblown dosen't know how to build manifolds..please go away

13bturbofc

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here is a link to the description. most definitely 321SS http://www.turblown.net/store/index.php?productID=2

jknapik

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shazam... thats one big *** turbo with anti-surge compressor... looks like its going to be a beast

PvillKnight7

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$200 for a bent piece of aluminum called a heat shield?