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Old 07-22-01, 10:57 PM
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Whoa. 400+hp on 89 octane? Did I read that right? *rubs eyes*

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Well,

It was RON 94 (Korean Premium) or about 89 AKI with a little 104+ octane boost in the mix... depends whether or not you think it adds anything to the octane ratings...

I just wish I could get some leaded VP C-16 into this country.

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the APEXi RX-6 turbo uses a 1.0 A/R turbine housing
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If the apex kit is not rebuildable, then does someone know how long these kits last??? I too am considering this kit. I know someone who has one and the thing hauls so much ***, either that or the HKS T04E or Greddy TD06
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Unless you beat the **** out of it on a daily basis, run it way out of it's efficiency range or have some type of catastrophic engine failure you will not have to worry about rebuilding it,you probably won't have the car that long.
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see thats not fair guys, here i am tinking that the t04s is the turbo to go with and you pullout the dyno sheet to show me the apex is still good money. can someone explain why you would have to rebuild a tubo kit, what causes you to have to rebuilt one? why is this so hard, can't make up my mind. my situation is this, i need to get a turbo kit as soon as possible for the simple fact that my car is leaking oil. i know what you are thinking, fix that problem first then get a kit. weel where the oil is lleaking is due to some messed up gaskets caused by excessive tightening. the gaskets are from the turbo and the one of the rotor huousing (seals, not apex seals). i wanted to port and install my single turbo at the same time to save oon labor cost. now if a shop was willing to take my car apart and fix the leaking gaskets while i look for the ideal single turbo that would be great, but after a service is done they usually don't want the car hanging around and would prefer the customer to pick it up. what i should do is take it to kd since the wait is so long, nah, i stick with ito in paterson. sorry i seem to be thinking while i write. anyone have an opinon with the way and the reason i am going about solving my oil leak problem. should i just go out and have the oil leak fixed and then go out and and have the single turbo put in? the car is not neglected, i check the oil daily and run the car daily, i also put in new oil if needed, the main part of the leak was a broken oil pan gasket which i fixed. and money is obvously a factor since i just want to save on labor. any help is appreciated, thanx luigi.
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I think that almost any single turbo upgrade is worth it in your situation. If I lived in the states, I would go for the T78 just for its power potential on the strip.

On a stock port motor, with NO plans to go to a street port then I think the T04E or the APEXi is the way to go.

Otherwise go big... rotaries seem to tolerate large a/r ratios better than I thought.
My car has been looked over by some Rotary boys from both Japan and Australia... and I'm tired of them laughing at my tiny turbo. They seem to think that it is not a bad setup for a street car but they all laugh when I tell them I drag race it.
I think I have turbo envy especially when I see Skylines running two of my turbos and Tiburons running the larger RX6B's.

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thanx for the advise but i just want a turbo for the street, i don't want something big where i will face sucha n incredible lag at every stop or light.
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Get an Apex IHI turbo or HKS BB turbo or a Garrett GT BB turbo . . . common thread . . all ball berring turbos. Only problem is that they are more expensive. You will have very little lag and good HP curve.
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Go with the XS engineering T04E kit. Priced right to!

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heh priced right? 3100 for a kit which essentially has hoses, manifold, wastegate, turbo, oil fittings...

best bet is to just put one together yourself (sorry not trying to hurt your business)

turbo, gaskets, oil lines - 1200
manifold - 500
wastegate - 500

get the piping made for 50 bucks, and you saved an assload..
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Jason-

Why the XS instead of the Apex turbo?
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Originally posted by nyt B]heh priced right? 3100 for a kit which essentially has hoses, manifold, wastegate, turbo, oil fittings...best bet is to just put one together yourself (sorry not trying to hurt your business)turbo, gaskets, oil lines - 1200
manifold - 500 wastegate - 500get the piping made for 50 bucks, and you saved an assload.. [/B]
You might be right. Hey why doesn't someone come up with an ideal kit and build it themselves. Do the research and sell it to all of use at an amazing price, ala Jim LaBreck, the bushing king. Then you make a mint and we all get a great deal. If lots of us had the same kit we could help each other with the install, tuning etc. I bet you could find 10+ buyers easy. Key is right price and right kit. I think there is some merit going to the big boys(XS Engineering) and getting a package deal(turbo kit, PFC and tuning maps).


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Originally posted by nyt
heh priced right? 3100 for a kit which essentially has hoses, manifold, wastegate, turbo, oil fittings...

best bet is to just put one together yourself (sorry not trying to hurt your business)

turbo, gaskets, oil lines - 1200
manifold - 500
wastegate - 500

get the piping made for 50 bucks, and you saved an assload..
Most places would charge about $300 to make a downpipe. Plus you would have to make the oil return block plate. If your not skilled in fabricating stuff a kit is the way to go.

The T04E kit is $2895.

The Apex kit is a nice kit, but virtually the same thing for more money. If something happens to the turbo that sucker is $1700.

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if you could do the t04s kit that cheap with a 1.15 divided or a 1.32 divided turbine housing id jump on it. can you list all the pieces in the kit?
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My gut feel is T78 is overkill. Seems like a lot of interest in XS T04E/S. Am I wrong???

If not maybe some dyno sheets on these two with approximately the same mods. I bet XS Engineering can supply some. I guess that's the kits Jason would like us to consider and if we got a great price and XS Engineering support with install and tune sounds like a winner to me. What do I know, I'm just learning.

What would be a break point for a KILLER price. Remember LaBreck had all kinds of break points. Of course we are not going to get 100 orders for this item. But the total outlay might surpass $50k.

Ken
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I am interested in the group buy.

Either the T78 or the XS T04S (preferred)

I think the T78 might be overkill on my stock ported motor.

But it also depends on which way the pricing goes for both

Mike

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T04S Dyno Sheet with mods


This was a controversal thread awhile back.

I like these numbers. I think XS Engineering know there stuff.

467RWHP, dyno curve not that bad either for the street use.

http://xs-engineering.com/asp/news.asp?id=56&version=0

Not as outrageous as the T78. It looks like it belongs in an FD.

If I can get some agreement I will try to drum up as many peole as posible from the different sources I have to work with.

I put together a group buy on another list and got 20% off on a Aquamist Water Injection kit, quantity 10. Who knows what we might get here.

Ken

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Think I've decided to go XS T04E and Haltec or AEM if it ever comes out. Now if I can only find a deal.
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I went with the XS- T04e kit. Now if only AEM could deliver.

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