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Old 11-08-01, 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by Evil Aviator
Has anybody put an additional BOV in front of the throttle body to help keep the pressure wave from stressing the butterflies?

BTW, I have been considering Tial BOV for my 20B project. The quality looks excellent.
http://www.angelfire.com/me2/tpi/bovalve.html
On my old T2 (RIP) I had a Tso4 setup and I had 2 Greddy Type Rs. Just as you say I had one right off the turbo and one right before the the throttlw bodie. It worked quite well.
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Thumbs up

I agree with what the others said about the Tial BOV. Guess I am partial to it since I run one also.
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Hell YEA!!!!
TIAL all the way BABY!!!!
Old 01-03-02, 06:36 PM
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what about the Blitz BOV?? how is that? ive seen many BPU and higher supras running the Blitz, so it must be good for the upper PSI range (19-22ish). most RX-7s dont run that much boost, so im guessing it vents with the best of 'em.

any comments?
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The Blitz is an awesome BOV as well. As far as my last MKIV, I ran two on the twins (HKS2835GT's), and have ran as much as 2 bar, and they seemed to hold fine, compressor surge / boost creep was never an issue, but then again my best ET was 10.69, and for a 845hp (crank) car, there were probably many things that may have "seemed ok", but prevented me from going faster .... Then I've ran the Type S, but again this was for my DSM's, the boost is different, the turbo (garret t25 (stock)) is smaller, the Type S was perfect, but probably would be impractical for an Fd. As far as a BOV for the FD, I'm prbably going to go the Greddy Type R route just to merely **** you all off with BRAND NAME GARBAGE as one had called it. It seems practical, I've never ran a Tial BOV, but I will say this. I did however have a problem with the HKS external wastegate on my last DSM, so I switched to a Tial 40mm unit, and I will say, held up MUCH MUCH better, the construction was very nice, far advanced for the regular joe, BUT, the Type R seems to work perfectly for higher boost applications, we are NOT running 2 bar in our FD's (I as well as your 13B's hope not), so whats the big diff?! They are both great units (from what I can gather), I don't think the decision is something you have to ask your wife. Eeeeny meeeeny miiiiiiny moe...seriously....
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looks like enzo is a natural born salesman. Persistent

Also how did you have that dual BOV thing setup, one after the turbo, one befreo the throttlebody. Like did you put diff sizes or the same size or anything special about em?

oh and whats TiAL's site?
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Has anyone mounted a Tial on the Greddy "bend".... (the pipe to the throttle body)?

It is small enough to fit there?


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GReddy IC pipes will only accomadate GReddy BOV's, Maybe you can get your local muffler shop to weld you a flange, but I dont know if it would work.
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Greddy Type-R will fit.
HKS SSQV will fit.

Apexi Twin Chamber won't.
Turbos XS won't (I don't think).

I don't have any measurements for the Tial...if anyone knows FOR SURE if it will fit between the strut tower, oil filter, and the brake fluid reservoir.... let me know....
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I just got a Tial for $190 + shipping!!!


http://www.xtecheng.com/Catalog/TiAl/TiAl_products.htm
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Good price! Have you actually recieved it or just ordered?
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Originally posted by FD_Pilot
Has anyone mounted a Tial on the Greddy "bend".... (the pipe to the throttle body)?

It is small enough to fit there?


Lewis
I wanted to do that with mine, but it didn't seem like there was enough room. I can't remember if it was small enough to stuff in there, but I do remember thinking that there wouldn't be enough room for the engine to rock and that it would get in the way of checking the oil and changing the plugs. It is better to mount it near the throttle, but I ended up mounting it on the IC inlet tube because it fit best there.

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Originally posted by Jedon
Good price! Have you actually recieved it or just ordered?

I just ordered it... I was looking on the net... seemd like everyone had them for $275... Extreme had them for $250....

Then I come across the $190 price...

For $190 I just ordered it...

If it dosen't fit... I can unload it for almost what I paid for it.....
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has anyone heard anything about the sard r2d2 BOV?
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I haven't, I'm assuming you are talking about the japenese unit? I've only seen it on takakaira.com...
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yea thats the one i was talkin about...a whole bunch of guys on freshalloy.com (240sx board) have it on their SR20's, and i just wanted some feedback from the rotary community
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Originally posted by 7 Secrets
I haven't, I'm assuming you are talking about the japenese unit? I've only seen it on takakaira.com...
Yeah, I have only other seen it at one other place. In this movie called "Star Wars"
Kinda like fast and the furious, but they had really bad costumes, and the cars wherent as riced out, although they used these neon "light sabers" a lot.
I personally think it was a rip off of TFATF. Vin Diesel was so much better than that "Han Solo" guy
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Originally posted by Node

Yeah, I have only other seen it at one other place. In this movie called "Star Wars"
Kinda like fast and the furious, but they had really bad costumes, and the cars wherent as riced out, although they used these neon "light sabers" a lot.
I personally think it was a rip off of TFATF. Vin Diesel was so much better than that "Han Solo" guy
there are many other forums that you can post ***** in. leave the Single Turbo forum alone.
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I have a quick question for you guys. What effect will different palcement of the BOV have? I have seen people that have them close to the turbo, some close to the trottle body, and some with one near each. My friend is currently going single on his MKIV Supra and we have been trying to decide what whould be better.
So far we have come up with the conclusion that closer to the TB would in theory would be better do to the fact that the compressor surge will not travel as far before it is released through the BOV. This just what we were thinking so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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you are correct, the closer the BOV is to the throttle body, the quicker you will regain boost when you get back on the gas, and the boost will be more responsive. the reason being that the compressed air doesnt have to go through the IC to reach the enigne. with the BOV before the IC, you would have to wait the extra split second.

either way, im sure there wont be any noticable difference.
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Originally posted by JoeD


either way, im sure there wont be any noticable difference.
Thats kinda what we were thinking.
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Originally posted by JoeD
you are correct, the closer the BOV is to the throttle body, the quicker you will regain boost when you get back on the gas, and the boost will be more responsive. the reason being that the compressed air doesnt have to go through the IC to reach the enigne. with the BOV before the IC, you would have to wait the extra split second.

either way, im sure there wont be any noticable difference.
Yes, unless you have an AFM and are recirculating the air, in which case it is sometimes better closer to the turbo to lessen the plumbing length.

Either way, you want it in a low velocity / high pressure area, which means at one end or the other. The middle of the pipe doesn't work as well.
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so is this a good place? because the air bouncing off of the TB would go rather straight to the BOV
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Originally posted by Node
so is this a good place? because the air bouncing off of the TB would go rather straight to the BOV
thats the best place you could put a BOV, IMO.
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I just got my TiAl delivered....

Steel Flange... anodized red....

FREAKING BEAUTIFUL... (pictures by Monday)

I don't know if it will fit on the compressor tube... but I'm sure gonna try....

For $190......... I don't think that can be beat.. not on price/quality....(plus you can order it in 4 separate colors)...


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