Adaptronic ecu fd3s
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Hey fellas, just wanted to share my experience with you guys on a product I just purchased for my money pit.
I ordered a Adaptronic ecu from Elliot, turblown.. Of course everything was smooth and shipping was fast.
Ok im gonna be rambling while im typing but I hope I can get all the info in I can. Me and catch-22 purchased this ecu just because we are internet junkies. lol. But I can say it was well worth it.
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The ecu looks and feels its well constructed. probably like the rest cause I cant really say ive fondled a lot of ecus.
Well we got the ecu in, I used the internal 4 bar map sensor and began playing with the settings. It was super easy to get everything going. We tried to start the car with a base map and it wouldn't stay running. It would rev to about 3k rpm then drop to 1k and let off a pop. Well we figured it wasn't getting any fuel. Went to youtube and watched one of andys very informative videos. He said to set all the cells to 90 and then go from there. Car instantly fired up and settled into a very smooth idle.
We then adjusted a few things and added and subtracted fuel as needed. Now this is all US doing the programming. I didn't have my wideband linked to the ecu yet. So here is where the fun begins. We got the wideband connected. Set all the parameters and let the ecu do the rest..
OMG. I have gotten a few tunes from various people in the past. Most have been pretty on point and ive made awesome power. The main area that is most important to me is the driveability, idle and crusing afr's. We set a target afr and went out cruising. You can watch the whole process in real time. The ecu is adjusting and calculating and making changes as we drive. We set all the boost cells to be rich so the ecu adjust down from a rich spot instead of trying to compensate for a lean spot. Took about a good 30 mins of driving. I did 5th gear 1000rpm to 5000rpm pulls 1/4, 1/2, full throttle. Each time you could see the cells changing. Did each gear like that. Was doing 25mph on a highway adjusting the tune. wtf. That didn't happen twice. lol. But after a few minutes of that we then did full throttle pulls starting in 5th, then 4th, 3rd, yadda yadda. So now... Hell yeah. time for a strong pull, full boost.
Dropped to 2nd, pedal to the floor, spinning straight thru, hit 3rd, wow, 4th omg, even did a brief boosted 5th gear pull. All I can say is wow. We set the afr's for 10.8 under full boost. And i'll be dammed ....... it was dead on. Cruising was phenomenal. This thing felt awesome. We have the idle at 13.8, light cruising 13.8, anything over 0hmg 12.5, then any boost over 4psi it drops from there to hit 10.8
We also have it set up to run closed loop under vacuum so the ecu makes changes to make sure its hitting the target afr's. Then after a certain rpm/boost it will switch to a mapped based tune where we have the values set. Andy says run it in closed loop all the time. Might try that, just gotta make sure you use a new sensor.
Timing was not messed with. But Andy has a good timing map in there to start with, so that was good. Possibly could change it a degree or so , but I wont mess with it.
So all in all I am very pleased with this ecu. It was a very good purchase. Now I plan to get the race dash for it and have all the functionality of the ecu. Sell all my defi gauges and buy that thing. Hooray.
I will post more info, videos, dyno, tuning, etc as soon as I do it.
Thanks for looking fellas.
Wanna thank catch-22 for helping me, Elliot has been a big help as well checking in on me every few days, and Andy for an amazing product. He is also very knowledgeable and quick to answer any questions. And I never read anything so he has gotten a lot of questions from me. lol. Thanks Andy..
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I ordered a Adaptronic ecu from Elliot, turblown.. Of course everything was smooth and shipping was fast.
Ok im gonna be rambling while im typing but I hope I can get all the info in I can. Me and catch-22 purchased this ecu just because we are internet junkies. lol. But I can say it was well worth it.
Starters:
The ecu looks and feels its well constructed. probably like the rest cause I cant really say ive fondled a lot of ecus.
Well we got the ecu in, I used the internal 4 bar map sensor and began playing with the settings. It was super easy to get everything going. We tried to start the car with a base map and it wouldn't stay running. It would rev to about 3k rpm then drop to 1k and let off a pop. Well we figured it wasn't getting any fuel. Went to youtube and watched one of andys very informative videos. He said to set all the cells to 90 and then go from there. Car instantly fired up and settled into a very smooth idle.
We then adjusted a few things and added and subtracted fuel as needed. Now this is all US doing the programming. I didn't have my wideband linked to the ecu yet. So here is where the fun begins. We got the wideband connected. Set all the parameters and let the ecu do the rest..
OMG. I have gotten a few tunes from various people in the past. Most have been pretty on point and ive made awesome power. The main area that is most important to me is the driveability, idle and crusing afr's. We set a target afr and went out cruising. You can watch the whole process in real time. The ecu is adjusting and calculating and making changes as we drive. We set all the boost cells to be rich so the ecu adjust down from a rich spot instead of trying to compensate for a lean spot. Took about a good 30 mins of driving. I did 5th gear 1000rpm to 5000rpm pulls 1/4, 1/2, full throttle. Each time you could see the cells changing. Did each gear like that. Was doing 25mph on a highway adjusting the tune. wtf. That didn't happen twice. lol. But after a few minutes of that we then did full throttle pulls starting in 5th, then 4th, 3rd, yadda yadda. So now... Hell yeah. time for a strong pull, full boost.
Dropped to 2nd, pedal to the floor, spinning straight thru, hit 3rd, wow, 4th omg, even did a brief boosted 5th gear pull. All I can say is wow. We set the afr's for 10.8 under full boost. And i'll be dammed ....... it was dead on. Cruising was phenomenal. This thing felt awesome. We have the idle at 13.8, light cruising 13.8, anything over 0hmg 12.5, then any boost over 4psi it drops from there to hit 10.8
We also have it set up to run closed loop under vacuum so the ecu makes changes to make sure its hitting the target afr's. Then after a certain rpm/boost it will switch to a mapped based tune where we have the values set. Andy says run it in closed loop all the time. Might try that, just gotta make sure you use a new sensor.
Timing was not messed with. But Andy has a good timing map in there to start with, so that was good. Possibly could change it a degree or so , but I wont mess with it.
So all in all I am very pleased with this ecu. It was a very good purchase. Now I plan to get the race dash for it and have all the functionality of the ecu. Sell all my defi gauges and buy that thing. Hooray.
I will post more info, videos, dyno, tuning, etc as soon as I do it.
Thanks for looking fellas.
Wanna thank catch-22 for helping me, Elliot has been a big help as well checking in on me every few days, and Andy for an amazing product. He is also very knowledgeable and quick to answer any questions. And I never read anything so he has gotten a lot of questions from me. lol. Thanks Andy..
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So this ECU essentially eliminates the need to have someone tune it for you? Just install a wideband and set your target AFRs and thats it? As long as the base map is close to what your ideal settings are? That sounds awesome!
You still need the car tuned. It speeds up the process, and gives you a better tune in the end, especially for end users who are not professional tuners.
Its good to see Andy getting something back for all the time he has put in.
I remember encouraging him to set up hte rotary triggering and spark split stuff a few years ago when he was just prototyping the e1280s and they were sponsoring our FSAE team.
He is so responsive to feedback and requests and a very clever and methodical guy.
I remember encouraging him to set up hte rotary triggering and spark split stuff a few years ago when he was just prototyping the e1280s and they were sponsoring our FSAE team.
He is so responsive to feedback and requests and a very clever and methodical guy.
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I'm hoping to purchase one of these ECU's next winter for my build (I ran out of funds this year so I'm going to be saving up for it) and this reinforced my plans - thanks for the post!
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