Wanna open a bar?
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Wanna open a bar?
I'm in the market to find backers to open a bar here in Jacksonville...
Here's my concept:
"The House" (Why "The House"? Because when your frineds ask what you're doing tonight, "Oh, I'll probably just go to The House". When the wife asks where you were all night, "I was at The House")
A Huge, open area... 1600+ sq. ft., oval shaped bar located in the middle, couches all around. These aren't onna be some uber-fancy leather and suede couches... rather, they will be cheapo couches from the thrift store or discount stores. I've seen what kind of condition couches can get in at bars, so it's easier to have something that you don't really care if it gets spilled on, or whatever.
Recliners, everywhere.
Tables at the end of every couch, to put drinks on. These will be made from tires, with a piece of safety glass rested on top.
The bar will have barstools that are made of wood, and have been stained a very light color, almost pine/maple colored. They will be covered with a soft cushion to sit on.
The bar itself: my baby.
A full maple bar (I'll even build it myself), with the bar covered in brand new pennies. Pour a thick layer of clear over them, and then hit it with some DiamondHard Bar Finish, and it will keep the look of the copper bar, but without the oxidation maintenence, and it won't get all dented. Full liquor, with everything from well to ultra-premium. Beers will be everything from Steel Reserve 211, to Warsteiner, Guinness, and a HUGE selection. My goal is to have the biggest beer list in Jax. Wine list will be impressive as well, but emphasis is on beer and liquor.
Floor: Floor will be flame-retardant ultra-retro 70's **** carpeting. I'll hire a cleaning crew to come out EVERY night.
Bartenders: Ideally, 2 bartenders, busy nights, 3. I'd like to keep a good cop/bad cop mentality to them... one's always nice, and the other is always angry, but still productive.
Volume: I'd like to maintain a volume that is consistently steady. The slow week, but ***-kicking weekend is not fun for bartenders... I'd rather keep the place busy, to keep the bartenders making money.
Security: The smallest, most adorable girl I can find, with the biggest attitude you've ever seen in your life. She'll be my bouncer. No guy in his right mind would hit a girl, especially in the bar where everyone will kick his *** for doing it.
Big meathead guys get a German Shepard complex to them ,a dn are just waiting for the chance to break somebody's neck. I want the tiny cute little girl that seems like she has perpetual PMS.
Entertainment: The jukebox will be a crucial part of the bar's success, and I plan on getting the jukebox that you can download songs into, and will find a way to have the programmers make it so that commonly downloaded songs/cd's will become permanent fixtures on it.
Live entertainment: Ideally, I'd like to have a seperate room attached onto it, where bands and groups can come play, preferably with acoustic sets. I'd call this room, "The Wreck Room" (instead of Rec room).
I'm gearing more towards the late 20's - early 40's crowd... somewhere that everybody can come hang out... no dance floor, no pool tables, no dart boards. Just a calm, chill place to relax and have cheap drinks, and have fun with your friends.
Here's my concept:
"The House" (Why "The House"? Because when your frineds ask what you're doing tonight, "Oh, I'll probably just go to The House". When the wife asks where you were all night, "I was at The House")
A Huge, open area... 1600+ sq. ft., oval shaped bar located in the middle, couches all around. These aren't onna be some uber-fancy leather and suede couches... rather, they will be cheapo couches from the thrift store or discount stores. I've seen what kind of condition couches can get in at bars, so it's easier to have something that you don't really care if it gets spilled on, or whatever.
Recliners, everywhere.
Tables at the end of every couch, to put drinks on. These will be made from tires, with a piece of safety glass rested on top.
The bar will have barstools that are made of wood, and have been stained a very light color, almost pine/maple colored. They will be covered with a soft cushion to sit on.
The bar itself: my baby.
A full maple bar (I'll even build it myself), with the bar covered in brand new pennies. Pour a thick layer of clear over them, and then hit it with some DiamondHard Bar Finish, and it will keep the look of the copper bar, but without the oxidation maintenence, and it won't get all dented. Full liquor, with everything from well to ultra-premium. Beers will be everything from Steel Reserve 211, to Warsteiner, Guinness, and a HUGE selection. My goal is to have the biggest beer list in Jax. Wine list will be impressive as well, but emphasis is on beer and liquor.Floor: Floor will be flame-retardant ultra-retro 70's **** carpeting. I'll hire a cleaning crew to come out EVERY night.
Bartenders: Ideally, 2 bartenders, busy nights, 3. I'd like to keep a good cop/bad cop mentality to them... one's always nice, and the other is always angry, but still productive.
Volume: I'd like to maintain a volume that is consistently steady. The slow week, but ***-kicking weekend is not fun for bartenders... I'd rather keep the place busy, to keep the bartenders making money.
Security: The smallest, most adorable girl I can find, with the biggest attitude you've ever seen in your life. She'll be my bouncer. No guy in his right mind would hit a girl, especially in the bar where everyone will kick his *** for doing it.
Big meathead guys get a German Shepard complex to them ,a dn are just waiting for the chance to break somebody's neck. I want the tiny cute little girl that seems like she has perpetual PMS.
Entertainment: The jukebox will be a crucial part of the bar's success, and I plan on getting the jukebox that you can download songs into, and will find a way to have the programmers make it so that commonly downloaded songs/cd's will become permanent fixtures on it.
Live entertainment: Ideally, I'd like to have a seperate room attached onto it, where bands and groups can come play, preferably with acoustic sets. I'd call this room, "The Wreck Room" (instead of Rec room).
I'm gearing more towards the late 20's - early 40's crowd... somewhere that everybody can come hang out... no dance floor, no pool tables, no dart boards. Just a calm, chill place to relax and have cheap drinks, and have fun with your friends.
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That sounds like it would be a cool place to go and hang out that's for sure. But it sounds like it would take a lot of work and labor to make it as successful as you picture it would be. Don't get me wrong you are full of great ideas.... How much is a liquor's license? I heard it's over $100k in some places. It would deff take a good amount of money to invest into something like this. Maybe you should be posting this in the Porsche forums since they drive $150+ cars 
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The license is probably $1mil, but I am sure that like most other states you only need to put down a 10% bond to get one. I know in Tennessee the bond for a liquor license in a per drink establishment (bar) is around $10K. Also, don't forget about the vendors. Most regions have several different distributors that sell various spirits (example: one sells Jack Daniels while another sells Jim Beam). They almost always require a payment to get things going, and if you miss one payment to one of them, you get put on the "no sell" list for ALL of them untill they are ALL paid in full. It is alot harder than it looks.
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