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Old Jun 4, 2016 | 08:37 PM
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TrimPal - New AFR Tuning Tool

TrimPal - New AFR Tuning Tool-rrkxyas.jpg

I built an app that uses RTek7 logs (with wideband data) and an AFR Target map to generate suggested adjustments. Sort of a poor-mans learning ECU.

The data it spits out looks like this:

TrimPal - New AFR Tuning Tool-xah3lyi.jpg

It's simply comparing logged AFRs vs Target AFRs, per cell, and computing a proportional correction in terms of RTek7 interface "clicks".

So far, this has vastly helped my get my AFRs in check.

arghx, I included a version of your "conservative" AFR target map as baseline.

Have fun!

TrimPal_1.2.zip

Last edited by ColinShark; Jun 4, 2016 at 09:55 PM. Reason: Updated to V1.2
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Old Jun 9, 2016 | 10:23 PM
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Interesting. If I ever toss a motor back in my vert ill toss the old Tii rtek(tii is on ms3x) into the vert to try it out.
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Old Jun 16, 2016 | 09:01 PM
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This works well to rough in the map.

I did about 6 iterations with a gain value of 10. Lots and lots of tapping the adjustment button.

At this point, I am spot checking my logs and making adjustments from that. Full throttle runs still produce an AFR curve with spikes, so I am adding fuel back in at key spots (even though the average in TrimPal tells me to remove fuel).
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Old Jul 2, 2016 | 08:51 PM
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K, my tune is solid.

I used TrimPal to rough in my initial map.

From there, I ended up ignoring a lot of the lower left corner due to air pump injection throwing off the AFRs. Some of this map, I just zero'ed out.

My final tune was by hand, with a lot of smoothing by eyeball in the 3D map view. TrimPal won't make a smooth map, and I suspect that most of the roughness is due to the lag and inaccuracy of the stock ECU. About two sessions smoothing the map by hand, and my tune is solid.

I did have to put a "shelf" in at the secondary transition point, because there was always a lean spike right afterwards. The lean spike is now smaller and it's rich enough there to be acceptable.
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Old Oct 12, 2016 | 11:32 AM
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The T and F indexes for RPM and Boost, as well as VR must be logged in order for the program to read the log file and pump out it's fuel changes.
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Old Feb 2, 2017 | 07:27 AM
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Does it pull the data straight from the log?
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Old Feb 2, 2017 | 10:55 AM
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Can you make one for my Haltech 1000?
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 10:41 AM
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Sorry, download link was 404ing. It's back up.

Originally Posted by raksj04
Does it pull the data straight from the log?
No, there is an export step from the PocketLogger Viewer/RX-7 Viewer desktop application. TrimPal is a quick and dirty tool. A fancier tool would be running on the Palm itself.

Originally Posted by TRRAPLN
Can you make one for my Haltech 1000?
I don't have that hardware. If I upgrade, I'd probably go Adaptronic.
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Old May 14, 2018 | 06:50 AM
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I'm having issues using this.. I know, thread resurrection. Followed the instructions in the readme file (dead easy), but my old PC laptop refuses to open the file. I'm a mac guy, so I can't use my usual computer... instead, I am using an old Compaq Armada 800-something-mhz running XP. When I try to open the log file with Trimpal, I get a message saying "The application failed to initialize properly [0xc0000135]. Click on OK to terminate the application."

....Any ideas? This is the only PC I own haha
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