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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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Rene Rx-7 10.5@124 ALL motor

I finally did it!!!,First time off the trailer and it ran my first 10 sec pass with an
incredible ET 10.5@124 mph.ALL Motor RX-7

I have ran earlier this year at another IDRC race in september 3 but the track
is well over 4000ft on a hot day,and ran ET 11.00@121. best for that weekend.

My surprise was that the car has been out only a few times this year and
has been running consistently decent times this year to get a few runner ups.

This past weekend at IDRC race was held at California speedway NOV 18-19 at a new track they just recently open but the best part was that i have never reced there and yet ,My Rx-7 ran really fast for its first time.The weather was hot(90F +) and elevation there is not really sea-level,Freind next to me at the races had a weather station and we saw a 2000ft elevation correction in both days.


Rene's Mazda IDRC specs:

1983 Mazda Rx-7 (hard top)
2080LBS at California speedway (all steel body)
13BPport(built and tuned by Rene)
Alcohol fuel injection(Microtech LT10s)
Custom intake manifold(custom built by Rene)
26x8.5 inch M/T rear slicks

Best ET and MPH

60ft-1.44
660ft-6.72@101MPH
1/4mile-10.56@124

To bad i got beat by some fast *** bugs and some FWD honda this weekend,it was very hard to keep up eventhough they weigh 1500lbs with 300+WHP.
I will get revenge next time but oh well very happy.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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congrats..
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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Rene, Thats really fast, congratulations. Hopefully my green machine will be going that fast sometime, if I can get back out to the track. Steve F
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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Damn congrats rene, Right off the trailer a 10.5 Not bad at all,What tranny you are running. Hope you get into the 9's soon with it.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 02:52 AM
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Congrats Rene!
All Motor is so much fun.
The more rotaries out there representing the better it is.
Keep up the good work.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 03:04 AM
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well lets see we had 3 1st gens running outthere, i tried to get alot of the guys from the west coast to come out but nothing, just rene me and my friend manny in his gold 1st gen, rene did a kick *** job and will be well reckoned with for next yr when the all motor hondas go after him and get there ***** kicked, thanks rene for the great weekend
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Thanks,Yes it is alot of fun, in the last few years i never
thought i get hooked into the all motor scene.It is a very
interesting and challanging class.I hope to run strong and
consistent next year,Hope to see more all motor cars epecially
rotaries out there kicking some ***.I give credit to all the fast
All motor rotaries out there that are running right now.

Maybe next year we should gatherup and have more rotaries in
all the NHRA classes,to scare them pistons away.I have several
freinds who are coming out next year here in the westcoast,But
there is alot of testing to go through.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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Do you know if NHRA is going to level the playing field for the All Motor Class seeing that the rotary's are the pigs in that class?
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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We are trying to sort this out.It sucks that a 4 cyl motor can weight 1500lbs,that
is with driver,and have a 2.5L engine and they say that the FWD are handicapped,
but now days these FWD with better power can launch as fast as a RWD,that is
not fair.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Hey Rene Congtrats saw you run at Fontana. It seemed like you didn't get a good launch and still managed to get a 10.5. Maybe one day you can build my Brown GSL-SE to run in the all motor class, But for now lets get my 3rd Gen running, just give me the green light and I will drop my car off. LOL By the way (Felicidades) keep doing what you are doing.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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hey rene i wish u could run next season all over but its an expensive sport and a business to run. I cant wait till next yr and how many all motor rotories will be outthere, keep up the great work rene
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 61620B
We are trying to sort this out.It sucks that a 4 cyl motor can weight 1500lbs,that
is with driver,and have a 2.5L engine and they say that the FWD are handicapped,
but now days these FWD with better power can launch as fast as a RWD,that is
not fair.
I know for a fact that if something is not done about leveling the field that there are not going to be any Mazda rotaries running next year at the NHRA in the 'All Motor' class.
Let's hope something good comes out of the NHRA for next year. If not they are going to kill another class because it really comes down to what the fans want to see no matter which manufacturer is sponsoring the class! In the ending the same sponsors are going to pull out becuase there are no fans to support their products. I hope they sat down and take a hard look at what happened this year especially in the 'Modified' class where it is obvious that grassroot import dragracing is what the fans want to see.
The way I see it along with Jesus Kilo Padilla is that no one wants to slow down the FWD's. Slowing cars down is not good for the sport and perfomance in general. We just want to be able to perform at the same level meaning rules should be fair and equal for both sides. The only way to do that presently would be to lower the minumum weights for the RWD Rotaries.
Performace of both sides with everything being fair would pretty be the same.
Both sides are making close to the same power with some advantage to the FWD in that department. FWD traction issue is just a myth. They get the same 60ft's or better than the RWD's. Transmission are at the same level. Although the FWD can argue they are using stock cases everyone in the buisness knows that's the only part that's pretty stock. I've even seen a couple using the Long Vertigate shifter where I believe they are only allowed to use a H-pattern.
Next year to be competitive in the class requires every car to be capable of running in the 9.50's as shown by the results of the last couple of races. The only way the RWD's are going to be able to run that number is with weight reduction.
It's funny because the FWD camps were the ones complaining all the time and what did the NHRA do? Add weigth and kept handicapping the RWD's. Now that the table have been reversed it's time for the NHRA to step up and do something about it.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by crispeed
I know for a fact that if something is not done about leveling the field that there are not going to be any Mazda rotaries running next year at the NHRA in the 'All Motor' class.
Let's hope something good comes out of the NHRA for next year. If not they are going to kill another class because it really comes down to what the fans want to see no matter which manufacturer is sponsoring the class! In the ending the same sponsors are going to pull out becuase there are no fans to support their products. I hope they sat down and take a hard look at what happened this year especially in the 'Modified' class where it is obvious that grassroot import dragracing is what the fans want to see.
The way I see it along with Jesus Kilo Padilla is that no one wants to slow down the FWD's. Slowing cars down is not good for the sport and perfomance in general. We just want to be able to perform at the same level meaning rules should be fair and equal for both sides. The only way to do that presently would be to lower the minumum weights for the RWD Rotaries.
Performace of both sides with everything being fair would pretty be the same.
Both sides are making close to the same power with some advantage to the FWD in that department. FWD traction issue is just a myth. They get the same 60ft's or better than the RWD's. Transmission are at the same level. Although the FWD can argue they are using stock cases everyone in the buisness knows that's the only part that's pretty stock. I've even seen a couple using the Long Vertigate shifter where I believe they are only allowed to use a H-pattern.
Next year to be competitive in the class requires every car to be capable of running in the 9.50's as shown by the results of the last couple of races. The only way the RWD's are going to be able to run that number is with weight reduction.
It's funny because the FWD camps were the ones complaining all the time and what did the NHRA do? Add weigth and kept handicapping the RWD's. Now that the table have been reversed it's time for the NHRA to step up and do something about it.
AMEN!!! I think another thing NHRA should let the rwd cars do is let them be atleast 1/2chassi. If they let the rwd cars be 1/2chassi with the same weight that it is now they would improve by over 2tenths easily.I wish they had let GAto run his 323 in all motor. They had to be dickwits about it. Gato fwd 323 turbo for next year
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i heard from sources that jesus had 323 and was doing 8.60s 159 but and weighing n at 1500 and honda still didnt want him n that class, and was also told they would take off 50 pds off the gslse just to keep him racing
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by riceburner1r2001
i heard from sources that jesus had 323 and was doing 8.60s 159 but and weighing n at 1500 and honda still didnt want him n that class, and was also told they would take off 50 pds off the gslse just to keep him racing
Those sources were wrong!

The 323 has run in the mid 10's so far. The car is driven and owned by 'Gato' performance.
The NHRA lowered the RWD Rotaries by 75lbs for the last couple of races to see how much of an improvement it would have made. It really didn't help do **** since the FWD's are approx. still 300lbs lighter.
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AMEN!!! I think another thing NHRA should let the rwd cars do is let them be atleast 1/2chassi. If they let the rwd cars be 1/2chassi with the same weight that it is now they would improve by over 2tenths easily.
Agreed.
When you take a closer look at it there is no way you can even remove another 200lbs from the RWD's unless you remove some serious sheetmetal. Everyone just about have every lightenning mode done so the only way to remove weight would probably be to 1/2 chassis.

Anyway this is Rene's thread and don't want to stray away from the topic at hand.
Rene... Hope to see competing next year with the RX-7.
Good luck!

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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 01:33 AM
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OK
Here I go again messing up Rene's thread.
Rene please forgive me.

The 2007 NHRA Import rules are out and it's looking a lot more promising for the RWD rotaries.
They have lowered the weight now to 1850 lbs so that's 200 lbs lower than it was for most of the season last year. At least that's a positive move by the NHRA.
Let's hope it's enough to make up for the difference in performance the FWD's have.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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Man Cris I know Rene would be happy to hear that. I can just imagine what he will be able to do with after loosing an extra 200 lbs. Maybe more Rotaries will come out on that class and be more competitive.
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Originally Posted by crispeed
OK
Here I go again messing up Rene's thread.
Rene please forgive me.

The 2007 NHRA Import rules are out and it's looking a lot more promising for the RWD rotaries.
They have lowered the weight now to 1850 lbs so that's 200 lbs lower than it was for most of the season last year. At least that's a positive move by the NHRA.
Let's hope it's enough to make up for the difference in performance the FWD's have.
Thats a step in the right direction. Is there still 150lbs weight penalty for clutchless trans? Still better than nothing.
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Originally Posted by pportrx3
Thats a step in the right direction. Is there still 150lbs weight penalty for clutchless trans? Still better than nothing.
I looked over the rules a couple of times and it seems they have dropped that handicap. So basically it's now 1850lbs minimum with driver. Now everyone have a couple of months to sit down and figure out where to remove all this weight from.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Man Cris I know Rene would be happy to hear that. I can just imagine what he will be able to do with after loosing an extra 200 lbs.
He'll be rock-n-rolling!
Based on his current weight and time at 1850lbs---> 10.15@130mph!
But based on actual experience in all motor it would probably be even better than above.
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damn thanks for that info Cris, Hope kilo gets his car done and fixed. Cris you did hear that Kilo's son did crash the 13b about 2months ago in sunshine? The best way to remove 200lbs from a car is just to make the doors fiberglass, That is a easy way to go.
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Congratulations !!!!!!!!!
One more All Motor RWD Rotary to kick some Honda *** , If we stick together we can do it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't mind taking this topic to another level,This is what is all about
,but it is true what everyone says here,they should allow a bit more flexible rules for the rotaries.I think this ALL Motor class can be fair if the RWD rotaries can weight just as much as a tube chassis FWD car.They allow 1600lbs car with tube chassis FWD VS RWD non tube chassis or 1/2 chassis all steel 1850lbs.If you do some math it still gonna take more horsepower to run at least 140mph range like they are doing now.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fbdrifterrx7
damn thanks for that info Cris, Hope kilo gets his car done and fixed. Cris you did hear that Kilo's son did crash the 13b about 2months ago in sunshine?
Yes I'm very aware of that but I did not want to be the one to make that public.
Kilo told me it's repairable as the main chassis did not get damaged. Some suspension, all four wheels and his brand new one piece front end have to be changed.
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