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Are those the RA Super seals ?

Hey Crispeed, must be hard to walk with all those texans swingin from your nuts.

Who's on first?:icon16:

HAHAHAHA your just mad because no one likes your little nut sack.:suspect:

I have never seen a thread with such a vast array of information.:crackup:

No comprende mi amaigo!

Ok I got it now! :rlaugh:

I must be drunk because I can't understand any of your posts today :lol2:

Level 1. SCR Seals.
http://www.southcoastrotary.com.au/Images/seals_1.jpg
http://www.southcoastrotary.com.au/Images/seals_2.jpg

Level 2. PTS Seals
http://www.performancetestedseals.com/images/seals3.jpg

Level 3.NRS Seals.
http://members.shaw.ca/nrsrotorsports/3_Scorpions-2.JPG


Supposedly that's in the order you go from top to bottom when setting up a new combination. :lol:
Pick your level.
I just skipped the beginner and novice levels and went straight to level 3! :rlaugh:

It's a long story. I will just tell you that it involved me, Doc Holiday, and a quart of 30W non detergant motor oil :3some:. Doc didn't shit right for a week.

then it should really matter to you or any other racer
what other builders are doing right?

Thats there point that arrogant comment is what keeps them from sharing anything
do it on your own don't copy them and prove your better or as good

Ken has gotton alot of input from alot of racers
like Kilo and Tito and Dee etc.....don't think he came up with the setup
the first setup was built by someone else and that setup was nothing but headaches

Hey hey hey, I was roofied. Inbred Texas sickos.

"They" those who use those seals claim they they are not the same as the RA seals...

Black
Grey choose your color

The black seals are made by a guy in orlando named Kenny. When I was in Florida for the Moroso event Dee introduced me to him. I bought a few sets of seals directly from him. I spoke to him indepth for a while asking a lot of questions. I have had the seals since last year. Ken runs them in his car as well. When I bought them last year I paid over $300 a set. From what I understand, they will not break. If you run lean they will warp and will not damage the rotor or the housing. You just replace the seal.

I built my motor this past weekend with these new seals. So far the vacuum is the same and all else seem the same. A few friends are now running them in their cars as well so we will know how they do on a street car. As for the rotary aviation seals, they are the same ones, I believe Kenny sells them to Rotary Aviation and a number of other vendors. I have also seen a few of these being duplicated and sold as his. He mentioned to me to look for the bronze etching in the name of the seal to know they are his.

Anthony

Yeah it's neat reading that interview with ken. He and kilo are good friends and kilo is the one who built his motor (witch by the way if you haven't read already is a half bridge port :D :D :D ) ok sorry I just like that alot. I wish that the puerto rican guys wouldn't distance themselves so much from "gringos" because I really like listening to them talk about what they've been though with thier build and what they have found that works etc... They have so much information that when a friend of mine and one of these guys get on the phone I can talk to him for hours and normally I can't talk on the phone longer than 5 minutes without getting the gitters to hang up. We just need to all get along!!!!! :)

lol thats what I've heard, I've never tested that theory though :D On topic though, I've asked alot of these dragsters if they run ceramic and they all say no. now I'm not asking tons of guys it's namely about 2 or 3 of them and they all say no. But maybe this is a budget responce and not a performance responce?

I think alot of the seals on the market are black and are made by one company and they must sell them to other companies or at least thats what I've heard. I'm not sure on the specs but everytime I talk to a puerto rican they are always saying black seals. Sounds nice that they don't break! I'm all for that but I don't know if it's bad about premature housing wear witch is why I got away from the RA seals (not thier super seals).

Alright, so these black seals are supposed to warp instead of break, right ?

That sounds like Hurley’s old slogan. Those seals would break if a bird crapped on your hood.

Seriously, are these black “super” seals supposed to be the real deal or what ?

Kenny's seals are the real deal!!! And i paid for mine :)

Really ?

And at only $250 for a set ! :suitdance

So that rules out the local zoo then. :lol:
That means his seals are from the south pole then! :rlaugh:

Man, I can't undersand what the hell you guys are talking about.............. must be some secret ancient rotary language.

haha no joke man, I just smile and nod :)

I use the same ones. Knock on wood, they're holding up fine. One day I may actually run the car down the track.

Didn't you dyno 700+rwh on the Atkins heat treated seals ?
At what point did they fail ?

Thanks
JD

Ernie, you're running these black seals ? You said in your dyno thread that you were using the cryo'ed atkins seals ?

Somewhere past the 1/8th mile! :rlaugh:
Now was that meant to be a joke. :lol:
I know someone in this thread is going to get a kick out of that one.