Carl Byck

Well, I have a 97 Supra, and a ~500hp FC, I'd like to know who you are talking about, there are alot of mid 10 sec Supras, but every 9 sec Sup in the country is known to the community, and I cannot think of one in CT. Let us know who your friend is, if you are really serious, there are some guys that can get you there, but you better figure on spending 30k on top of the car. As far as streetable, you will be spending ~1k on Race Logic TC, as far as street legal, there are no 9 sec Supras that are street legal, so either you are FOS, or your friend is. Regards, Carl

'//icked

You mean...

sell the 7 and go buy a GN

IMO, GN is a WAAAAY better 1/4 mile car. Supras aren't awesome drag cars. You could build up a GN to run 9's and it would be a BIG time sleeper and be just as rare! Plus 99% of people wouldn't know wtf it was. I vote GN!

2Lucky2tha7

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I just wanna say this:
Your most important ally in drag racing will be your power to weight ratio.
For example: my brother's '79 widebody RX7 with a series 4/ 5 turbo II block, TO4B turbo, streetported, 3mm apex seals, liquid intercooler, and looking to run 16 lbs of boost or more.
Weigh: approx. 2400 lbs.
HP: soon to find out!!

Veovius

Oh man oh man oh man...GNX..Ugly like stump, goes like stink...

Oh, first post, btw, Hi all :P

badboi24u

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man good luck getting into the 9's its gonna be alot of money but 11's and 10's are pretty easy even for a s4 or s5

Sumcrazycracka

His name is Pat... his mark 4 supra is in this site
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/473554

On the site you will see his 750 horse but he was telling me he got beat by a cobra or something with small mods ( the cobras torque suppoedly ate him up ) so he put the car in the shop again and it will be out in the next week... So you will see updated pics there probably in about 2 weeks for now his car is still impressive with 750 horse

Anyways which way would you go for 9 sec. or 8 sec. car I would like to hear some opinions

Thanks, Ryan

Michael Filippello

Hey, what do you guys think of a grand national motor in a 3rd gen. These things make tons of reliable power. This wouldn't be for road racing of course, but strictly a drag set up. No flames, just curious. Their power potential is better than any other 6 cyl. For that matter why not just use the 4.3L vortech version. You could turbo charge it like the 3.8 and add nitrous if all else fails. If they can propel a 4000lb car into the 9's how about a 2700lb car.

Also, have any of the american companies come out with an aluminum block version of this engine. This would be better than the v8 swap. Just think, all aluminum v6 for lighter weight and since it is v6 as opposed to straight 6, better weight distribution.
Cheap parts too.

Mike

RX-Heven

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Those Buick V6's are the best pushrod V6's ever produced in my opinion. Badass engines.

Where's GNX7? He has one in his fc and it is wicked fast. It still has the stock turbo also. To bad it's an auto....

Get a GN if your only worried about straight lining with the other drag ****. GNX7 has one for sale btw

Check out torquecentral.com or wrongmotor.com

ianewk

There's a guy named Jose who lives outside of Barksdale Air Force base, he has one of the largest RX-7 collections in the world. Anyway...he keeps a pretty low profile, but he has an FD with a GN engine in it.

He's a regular at Marvelspeed...that's how I met him.

Don't know much else about the GN FD but I know it can be done...and has.

Sponge Bob Square Pants

Yeah, a 13B he used... i an car weighing around 1700 lbs!! Pro-class. You don't even call those things cars anymore, more like a driver sitting in a cage with an engine on 4 wheels.
And yes, his times did drop with the 20B install. With the 13B he still holds the world record of 7.44 seconds. With the 20B he's doing 6.8X's as far as I know.

Street legal... LOL!

Sponge Bob Square Pants

The guys who make over 1000 whp with 20B rotaries are not a dime a dozen. Maybe what... 5 in the Western Hemisphere.. 10-15 in the world?

If you aren't doing the engine work yourself (which you definitely shouldn't be seeing as you are new to rotaries) the engine itself will cost you about $35,000-$50,000. This is JUST the engine, not to mention the other thousands spent in performance parts.

Stop thinking about 13bs, rebuild kits and all that crap. This is a big time custom project, for instance you will need a custom made eccentric shaft...

No offence, but your head is way up in the clouds.
If you really do have the money to pay someone to do all this for you, then sure, go for it! Talk to some of the shops that can actually pull this off for you - the big boys. Search the forum for more info on them, guys like Marvelspeed, Gotham, RX7.com, Petit, Pineapple, Acosta, the list goes on.

TracyRX7

I'd actually suggest swapping to LS1 for a drag setup. You can get plenty of good transmission and rear ends to handle the amount of HP you're going to have to put down to run 9s.

Search around on the forums here for info about swapping the LS1 in. Your costs of doing that will be a lot lower than a 20B or getting a 13B up to the HP you need to run in the 9s.

The LS1 doesn't really mess with the nice road handling of the FD either so you won't lose that. A straight LS1 without extra stuff (like turbos or a supercharger) is only about 50lbs heavier than the 13B w/ the stock twins.

Sumcrazycracka

Every one i've found so far that I would be willing to pay is no where even close to CT... I don't understand how there aren't more in CT especially near where I live because the Berlin Turnpike is known all over the country for the cars that travel there to cruise on weekends... Yeah i'll pay the money but I won't drive 3000 miles aha

Sponge Bob Square Pants

I'm not suprised at all!
This isn't as easy as project as you seem to be assuming. Like I said, there are only a handfull of shops in the states that can pull this off properly.

tt2323

This guy bought his supra fairly recently? i've owned a few in the past b4 the 7, never heard of him or seen the car...but i haven't been up the the berlin turnpike in a while either. What track did he run the 9.2 at? there are like 5 supras to run that time and all but 1 was an auto. And this guy definately isn't the other one...

TracyRX7

Does anyone really run in the low 9s without at least a semi-automatic sequential gearbox? My question is what track lets you run in the 9s without a full cage w/ door bars, a fire extinguisher, firesuit, fuel cell, and probably even a chute?

Even if you can keep the car street legal and add all of that do you really want to bother with it? Running in the 800hp range you'll need to the engine is going to idle like crud, get little to none in gas mileage, and need a rebuild every 5-10k miles even if you just street drive it. I guess you can turn the boost down and run in the 400-500 range the majority of the time but you aren't going to be able to reliably 'turn it up' unless you keep stuff in perfect order. Ahh well to each is own.

cripsR6

they must have some good sit in conneticut. lol

Sponge Bob Square Pants

Why do people keep bringing up the street driven point?
The chance of that being possible/likely on a 8 second RX-7 is slim to none.
How many of those "street" Supras running low 9's (not including your friends car which probably doesn't) are actually driven on the street on a daily basis? 1? 0?

spoolin93r1

no supra on the face of the earth has EVER gone 9's with only 700ish whp. your friend is full of ****. it would only take around 520-540whp in an FD to walk that supra. his car would never be streetable on a 1200hp setup even if it did have it.

and just so everyone knows, an 11 sec FD is very easy to maintain and keep on the street. mine will run 11's easy on pump gas and i drive it every second i can, and definately not easy on it. she keeps comin back for more

t-von

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If you really want to **** your friend off buy and mod 1st gen. The weight advantage you will get vs the Fd easily means you don't have to make nearly as much hp to compete. In the Fd it takes 400rwhp to run in the upper 10's as Boosted7 has proven. The 400lb lighter 1st gen should only need a few hp more to reach 9's. This would be a cheaper and more realistic way to reach your goals. I know you like the Fd but the 1st gen is a better drag car because of the weight. If you build the 1st gen you could challenge him at a road course with the Fd.

spoolin93r1

wrong. if that's the guy with the white FD that ran a 10.9, he has more than 400whp. noone has ever made a 10 second pass with just 400whp

tt2323

a weight reduced 2800lb fd with driver having 400 rwhp should be knocking on the 10 second door. Also a 700hp 3600lb supra should be very close to running a 10 also. They keep track of the 1/4 mile times for supra which i'll list. There are many supras how drive to the track with the A/c on getting 20+ mpg running 9's! hard to believe it guess...don't knock one till ya own one!

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'//icked

Also, everyone talks about these supras weighing 3600-3800 lbs when you can easily make them in the 3300lb range. Granted it would take some weight reduction and maybe some creature comforts away but they are still VERY streetable. When you have 800+hp to play with, 3300lbs isn't much

Icemastr

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The 1994 Turbo Supras weigh in at 3400lbs and reach up to 3500lbs with the automatic in 1997 and easily drop a 100lbs from the basic mods just like RX-7s so not sure where you guys are getting 3600-3800 from.

t-von

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Well I guess I should have said "around" 400 rwhp. Either way, the info I gave was close enough to be accurate. Besides do you actually think Boosted7 is making 400+ hp to the wheels on stock non-sequential twins? I quess I missed that dyno plot proving so.