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Old 05-12-07, 01:32 AM
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Please share some details on your car and build
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Can i just say right about now I have a mild errection

Cermet A and NRS seals ! that is a rotary nirvana right there !

Pimpy Hand, I too will have that set up breakin in soon ready for some strong figures but most importantly unherd of levels of durability.
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I will be following suit in my next build with these housings and seals. I was waiting for those pictures you posted. Badass is all I can say. Those housings almost look like new chrome they're so shiny. Keep us updated with pics from all the builds using this combo.

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Hi Sven, Can I ask why this motor was disassembled?
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hi, do you still have the info pac?
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Originally Posted by mad20b
Hi Sven, Can I ask why this motor was disassembled?
This was my curiousity too.
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Lightbulb to see it you need to look inside it !

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Hi Sven, Can I ask why this motor was disassembled?
That has to rate as one of the single stupidest questions i have ever herd asked on here?

* How else do you show someone the condition of your product after X miles if you dont pull it apart for them to see

you got a photo of the housing and also a report on the condition of the apex seal after 60 000miles ? would you be more satisfied if someone said "mate its still together but its all going great, trust me"
^ **** that ! I would rather see a tear down inspection done personaly !
This is what Mazda technicians did to the 787B motor that won LeMans with similar quality of parts being revield *funny that given the rotor housings had the exact same coating and also use silicone nitride apex seals* i dont think i read anywhere of people in the crowd saying "why are you pulling it apart"
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I'm curious about the seal champfering. Is that effective at increasing dynamic compression and reducing leak down past the seal?

Any test results available to show what effect the champfering has compared to non champfered seals?
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I'm curious about the seal champfering. Is that effective at increasing dynamic compression and reducing leak down past the seal?

Any test results available to show what effect the champfering has compared to non champfered seals?
Hey slo, I only made a few sets of the chamfer type and yes that was the idea to get a 3mm seal to seal like a 2mm seal. The only data I received on them was that they functioned well but the trailing edge held some carbon on the flat of the chamfer. Not exactly what we want to see.

I believe the concept can still be achieved but would involve a tighter radius with a tangental blend to the vertical sides.
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Originally Posted by RICE RACING
That has to rate as one of the single stupidest questions i have ever herd asked on here?

* How else do you show someone the condition of your product after X miles if you dont pull it apart for them to see

you got a photo of the housing and also a report on the condition of the apex seal after 60 000miles ? would you be more satisfied if someone said "mate its still together but its all going great, trust me"
^ **** that ! I would rather see a tear down inspection done personaly !
This is what Mazda technicians did to the 787B motor that won LeMans with similar quality of parts being revield *funny that given the rotor housings had the exact same coating and also use silicone nitride apex seals* i dont think i read anywhere of people in the crowd saying "why are you pulling it apart"

Pete - Lay of the Jitter Juice & stop being so defensive! I wasnt aware that this was the "mule" that you would be stripping at predetermined milage marks to gauge wear & tear. As for the condition of the housing & seals at 60k Miles - I am MOST Impressed & WILL be using them in my own 3 20Bs that I will be building in the next while. I wait in anticipation of seeing this motor again at 100K miles!
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& Hopefully I am allowed to try some of them too!
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Originally Posted by crispeed
I've been sitting here with my knife and fork waiting for this! I'm way past starvation now so I'll keep waiting.
Ahhhh yes but like a juicy rib steak that arrives just in time to satisfy your hunger
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Originally Posted by mad20b
& Hopefully I am allowed to try some of them too!
Well there will definetly be some extra's to go around.

Actually there will be 2 flavors, one being initially tested in my N/A PP 13B with NRS 2pc ceramic seals and new rotor housings. All built by Pineapple Racing, dynoed with the 2pc ceramic seals only, torn down, flavor 1 installed, dynoed again, torn down, flavor 2 installed, dynoed again all the while recording any gains.
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How do the springs look that came out of that engine? It was a turbo engine obviously? How much boost did they see? What kind of life did they live in general? Was the engine pre-mixed?

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