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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 07:44 PM
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Major rule changes for '03 NHRA

no more street class

Pro class will be divided into RWD and FWD

There will be 2 "street legal only" heads up classes

FWD and RWD

Rules for the new classes will be posted end of month
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 07:50 PM
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wtf, there's still no class for a unibody 4 cyl. rwd to compete in competitively. goddamn, i wanted to bring out my 240sx next year but i can't race in hot rod cause it's only fwd, and i'll get killed by supras in the new rwd street class. this ******* sucks. and why is there a fwd pro class, full tube fwd cars can already be in modified.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 08:00 PM
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I thought the same thing when I read the new NHRA setup

I think the PRO FWD class will fail
Theres really only 3 Tubed FWD autos

The FX celica
AEM civic and
The GM cavalier
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 09:58 PM
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well, how many people will see the new rules and think to themselves "Damn, there are only three cars that will fit PRO FWD, I should build a car for that class over the winter".
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 01:39 AM
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isnt ari yallon in the street class present?? what he going to do about that next year??
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 05:48 AM
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and what exactly do they mean "street only" cars

no trailer queens? must be driven in?

We shall see when the rules come out
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 01:17 PM
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Basically from what I gather at this point, the NHRA did away with 2 classes, Street class, and Pro V8. Then they split up Modified class to Hot Rod FWD and Modified RWD, and added Pro FWD. This makes no sense in my opinion, they added a class(Pro FWD) for 3 cars, which BTW, one of them(Steph Papadakis) is getting out of FWD and getting a RWD car, so in actually, it's really gonna be 2 cars next year in this class if no one else goes and builds a car for this class(which I don't think anyone else will)! Also the Sport RWD, and Sport FWD classes I think will probably be functioning within the same street class rules as this year with the exception of them being split between FWD and RWD, only thing is there will be NO CHAMPIONSHIP POINTS for this class, which makes NO sense! Guys like Ari, Steve Kan, Titan, John Shepard, Albert Diaz, Paul Efantis, Ray Wilson, etc. Will have to basically run IDRC next year the way it's looking so far, I guess we'll see what happens.
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 02:01 PM
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exactly the nhra are a bunch of idiots. the front wheel drive cars already had a good advantage in modified cause of the weight advantage and being able to be fully tube framed, why give them another class? and there's still no place for unibody rwd and awd cars to be competitive. there's one class for them rwd street class, but there's so many of these cars out there. unless you've got a supra you're dead. 4 cyl. and 2 rotor cars will have a very difficult time beating these supras when they're putting down well over 1300rwhp.
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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oh, and no championship points for the sport class? wtf, these are the baddest cars out there and the ones people can relate to the most, why are they trying to drive these guys away. ****** stupid
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 07:28 PM
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Another thing that sucks is the AWD guys are left out in the cold!
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 04:57 AM
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There's a reason why they did that. The street class has gotten to the point where only people with big money can compete and have a chance....i.e. Rx7.com, Titanmotorsports, SP....etc..

I didn't race NHRA this year because I didn't have the money to travel and to upgrade my car to be competitive. Best I estimated my car could do is around 10.30 on drag radials with my current mods which can only qualify me in the top 8. Not to mention the cost to travel, race gas, tires, motor parts, turbo, rearend...etc.

By stepping down the street class where (rotaries and 4 cylinders min weight to 2800lbs) and 6 cylinder to 3600lbs. They can bring more racers to the class.

If you notice how competitive the class was and only the top racers are willing to travel, you'll understand NHRA's point of view.

just my .02
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 05:17 AM
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i know that's what they want to do, but it's still ******* retarded that they don't have a class for serious unibody rwd and awd cars to compete in. make a new class for these guys or integrate them into hot rod w/ weight penalties, whatever, just do something. they've basically outlawed all the big rwd/awd guys from competing, what's the point in that.
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 05:27 PM
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To make things more competitive and better in the street class, all the NHRA had to do was increase weight for 6cyl/3rotor, NOT decrease the weight of the 2rotor/4cyl(like the IDRC did, good try IDRC, but still no good). My reasoning for this is because it'll make the class more competitive for everyone. The 6cyl/3rotor guys in that class are making BIG HP and don't need to weigh just 100-150pounds more than someone driving a 2rotor/4cyl. It's very easy for the 6cyl/3rotor guys to run the numbers that they're running with the weight at what it is now. For example a friend of mine has a street class supra running mid 9's consistantly(and it's about to get faster), and that car weighs 3722 pounds with him in it!!!! , which seems to imply that a 6cyl/3rotor combination CAN compete at this weight, and therefore the minimum should be somewhere around 3400-3700 pounds. The reason I mentioned earlier about the IDRC not doing any good for their street class in lightening the minimum weight for the 4cyl/2rotor combo was because it's VERY difficult for a 4cyl/2rotor to weigh as light as they are specifying, it's alot easier for the 6cyl/3rotor guys to just leave there cars basically more stock looking than it would be for a 4cyl/2rotor to attempt and lose all that weight. Anyway these are just my thoughts and opinions.
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 05:52 PM
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From the IDRC website:

BFGoodrich Tires IDRC Street Class Rule Revision 5.6S

***FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE***



BFGoodrich Tires IDRC Street Class Rule Revision 5.6S

Effective 9/13/02



In an effort to improve the parity in competition between multiple platforms, the IDRC has revised its Street class rules based on data gathered from this season’s first 10 events.



As a result, V8-powered vehicles will no longer be eligible for competition in this class. Additionally, all six-cylinder and three-rotor platforms will now be required to campaign at a higher weight (an additional 100 pounds in most cases). Furthermore, four-cylinder and two-rotor platforms can now compete at a slightly lower competition weight (200 pounds less in most cases).



Street Class Competition Weight Breaks* Rev 5.6S



4/2r 5 6/3r
FWD (0 Power Adders) 1500 1750 2000
FWD (Nitrous Only) 1700 1900 2100
FWD (1 Power Adder) 1800 2000 2200
FWD (2 Power Adders) 2000 2200 2400
4/2r 5 6/3r
RWD (0 Power Adders) 1800 2200 2500
RWD (Nitrous Only) 2000 2400 2700
RWD (1 Power Adder) 2100 2500 2800
RWD (2 Power Adders) 2300 2700 3000
4/2r 5 6/3r
AWD (0 Power Adders) 1900 2300 2600
AWD (Nitrous Only) 2100 2500 2800
AWD (1 Power Adder) 2200 2600 2900
AWD (2 Power Adder) 2400 2800 3100

Non-OEM Rear End Housings +100 Pounds
Non-OEM H-Pattern Transmission +100 Pounds
FWD Non-H-Patter Sequential Transmission +150 Pounds
Non-Radial D.O.T. Tires +150 Pounds




Competition weight equals the weight of car plus driver at completion of run.

Note: V8s are no longer eligible for competition in this class



For more information, please contact the IDRC:



Import Drag Racing Circuit, Inc.

21405 Brookhurst Street

Huntington Beach, CA 92646

714.593.0280

714.593.0281 Fax

www.importdrag.com

info@importdrag.com
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 06:14 PM
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From the NHRA Website:

NHRA Summit Sport Compact Series announces groundbreaking class changes for 2003
10/08/02

NHRA Summit Sport Compact Drag Racing Series
2003 Categories (changes in BOLD)
Pro RWD
(formerly Pro) Compete for world championship
Full-tube chassis
Pro FWD New category
Compete for world championship
Full-tube chassis
Hot Rod Front-wheel drive only
Power adders/weight limitations
Compete for world championship
Modified Rear-wheel drive only
Power adders/weight limitations
Compete for world championship
All Motor Front-wheel drive/rear-wheel drive
Naturally-aspirated; no power adders
Compete for world championship
Sport FWD New category
Front-wheel drive only
Power adders/weight limitations
"Heads-up" racing
Event winners only
Sport RWD New category
Rear-wheel or all-wheel drive
Power adders/weight limitations
"Heads-up" racing
Event winners only

The National Hot Rod Association has announced class changes for 2003 in the NHRA Summit Sport Compact Drag Racing Series. The modifications to the current class structure reflect the interest level and needs of the sport compact series at all levels of competition.

"As the premier sanctioning body in all of drag racing, we believe it is our responsibility to pioneer and develop the future roadmap of sport compact drag racing," said Cary Menard, vice president technical administration. "NHRA is all about racing. And, as the leaders in the sport, we must take a proactive, leadership position to develop a class structure that meets the needs of all racers, while providing a logical progression for enthusiasts to step up from a novice class to the ultimate level of professional competition."

In 2003, the NHRA Summit Sport Compact Drag Racing Series will feature two professional "heads-up" categories competing for a world championship: the Pro RWD (rear-wheel drive) class, which was formerly called Pro, and the new Pro FWD (front-wheel drive) category. The creation of the Pro FWD class provides a logical stepping stone for those competitors currently competing in the front-wheel drive only Hot Rod class.

"NHRA is committed to supporting front-wheel drive racing technology, which is a unique part of sport compact drag racing. Clearly, fans and manufacturers alike share in this passion and we want to preserve this front-wheel drive sport compact tradition. Technology in drag racing has historically been rear-wheel drive oriented and has a demonstrated performance advantage over front-wheel drive vehicles," said Menard. "By creating a PRO class for both front-wheel and rear-wheel drive racecars, we can now provide a balanced and professional level of competition for each."

Each PRO category will feature rear-wheel drive and front-wheel drive full tube vehicles.

The current Hot Rod (front-wheel drive) and All Motor (no power adders) will be maintained in 2003 and compete for an NHRA Summit Sport Compact Drag Racing Series World Championship. The current Modified category will feature rear-wheel drive only vehicles. As a part of the class structure changes, NHRA will eliminate the Street Tire class in 2003. In all, five NHRA Summit Sport Compact Drag Racing Series World Championships (Pro RWD, Pro FWD, Hot Rod, Modified, All Motor) will be up for grabs in 2003.

In addition, NHRA announced the creation of two additional "heads-up" categories, the Sport FWD and Sport RWD classes. The classes, which will feature street-legal only vehicles with power adders, were created to fill the need for racers looking for a "heads-up," competition style of drag racing.

"These two new categories will provide an opportunity for area sport compact racers to run in a 'heads-up' format, against similarly equipped street vehicles, rather than using a dial-in handicap," said Menard.

The Sport FWD and Sport RWD classes will be equalized through the number of cylinders and power adders, as well as minimum weights.

"With the creation of the new classes, NHRA believes we have found the right formula to attract a wide range of race cars from the high performance street set-up to the full-on professional race teams," said Menard. In addition to the professional classes, all NHRA Summit Sport Compact Drag Racing Series events we will feature E.T. bracket competition.

More details regarding the classes for 2003, including rule changes, power adders and weight limitations, will be made available on nhrasportcompact.com by mid-October.
Beginning in the E.T. brackets, NHRA's new sport compact class structure allows steppingstones to the higher classes for drivers of rear-wheel and front-wheel drive vehicles.
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 12:36 PM
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wow what a bunch of dumbfucks. so there is now no class for rwd/awd unibodies to compete in for a championship. imo, these are the best cars out there, and the cars that street guys can most easily relate to. the hondas are great but how much in common do they have w/ street cars when they weigh less than a kite and drive on 6 wheels.
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 01:12 PM
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I'm getting sick of these bullshit rules for fwd cars in different classes. If they can't compete with rwd/awd, then maybe they should choose a car more effective for drag racing. It's just because all the hondaboys like to see their cars actually be able to win once in a while.

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