FD Ignition Remodel Help
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FD Ignition Remodel Help
Here's what I'm in the process of doing:
Using MSD Blaster 2 coils in place of oem, 2 for L, 1 each for T
Using a 6A for the amp
I'm relocating the coils to the fenderwall where the cruise control used to be.
Here's the questions:
Someone suggested that the TII plug wires would be the correct length and the FD ones too short. Can anyone confirm this?
Where the HELL is the igniter?? (I really should know this by now)
Since the oem L coil supports two plug wires and only has one connector am I just to splice into the connector and run one set of wires to each of my new L coils?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Using MSD Blaster 2 coils in place of oem, 2 for L, 1 each for T
Using a 6A for the amp
I'm relocating the coils to the fenderwall where the cruise control used to be.
Here's the questions:
Someone suggested that the TII plug wires would be the correct length and the FD ones too short. Can anyone confirm this?
Where the HELL is the igniter?? (I really should know this by now)
Since the oem L coil supports two plug wires and only has one connector am I just to splice into the connector and run one set of wires to each of my new L coils?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I relocated mine where the power steering/ac pump used to be. From there they are easy to get to and you could still use the factory length plug wires. Another benefit is they are'nt sittin on top of the firey beast, since they are positioned under the first vent of the(Vented Hood) hood and behind #2 radiator fan they get alot of cool air. But if you still have those creature comforts forget about it. Oh, the igniter is located right next to the cruise servo unit. And the TII wires are longer and would probably work though why would you want longer wires. I'm really big about how cluttered my engine bay would look with those long *** TII wires running left & right.
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From what I heard, the stock wires won't reach the firewall so the TII wires became necessary for the added length. I still have the a/c p/s so I'm pretty solid about putting them on the fenderwall. At least they'll be close to the igniter.
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Also, you can mount the facing down and let the plug wires run under all that crap like the brake mc and you might not even notice them. Use black wires.
If you dont have or want to ditch cruise its a excellent place for them.
STEPHEN
If you dont have or want to ditch cruise its a excellent place for them.
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You need to run the leading coils in series or parallel. Running one wire to each coil and grounding the other coil terminals won't work (well, one coil will work, but the other one won't).
(Please forgive the ASCII art...)
Series:
MSD1-------(COIL1)------(COIL2)--------MSD2
Parallel:
+----(COIL1)----+
MSD1-------+ +------MSD2
+----(COIL2)----+
I am not sure which of these configurations would be best for your setup. Series will have less spark energy, but parallel might burn out the amp. I would try series if I was in a pinch, and then I would contact MSD to see what they say.
You will need three MSD 6A boxes - one for leading, plus another one for each trailing circuit. Perhaps a DIS-2 or something could be used for the trailing circuits to reduce the total number of boxes.
Or you could run two ignition boxes, ignore the leading signal, and run two coils for each trailing signal (L&T for one rotor). You would need to program the ignition map for this to work well, but it is an option if you have a programmable ECU. That would give you zero timing split. Do a search in the Single turbo section to read about others who have done that.
-Max
(Please forgive the ASCII art...)
Series:
MSD1-------(COIL1)------(COIL2)--------MSD2
Parallel:
+----(COIL1)----+
MSD1-------+ +------MSD2
+----(COIL2)----+
I am not sure which of these configurations would be best for your setup. Series will have less spark energy, but parallel might burn out the amp. I would try series if I was in a pinch, and then I would contact MSD to see what they say.
You will need three MSD 6A boxes - one for leading, plus another one for each trailing circuit. Perhaps a DIS-2 or something could be used for the trailing circuits to reduce the total number of boxes.
Or you could run two ignition boxes, ignore the leading signal, and run two coils for each trailing signal (L&T for one rotor). You would need to program the ignition map for this to work well, but it is an option if you have a programmable ECU. That would give you zero timing split. Do a search in the Single turbo section to read about others who have done that.
-Max
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Max, I was planning on running the 6A box on just the L coils. My "plan" was to wire the 6A into the two blaster coils, one for each L wire, by splicing the amp wiring into two sets. Are you saying it would be better to wire the two Blaster coils in series as opposed to splicing the amp wiring and running one set of + and - to each? I'm going to leave the T side stock for the time being and I am running the PFC so I have igntion tuneability.
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That is exactly what I am in the process of doing , using a pair of Turbo11 trailing coils (without the ignitor) and a pair of MSD 6A's wired in parallel , from all I have read and actually thinking about it , this setup should work perfectly , I am a bit confused with maxcoopers discription though.
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Running both coil wires from the ignition box to both terminals on both coils will be running them parallel. From your initial description, it souded like you were going to run one wire from the ignition box to each coil and ground the other coil terminals, which won't work. You can run one wire to each coil and then connect the other coil terminals to each other (but not to ground) to run them in series.
------- is one wire
==== is two wires
Won't work (one box):
MSD_WIRE_1--------------(Coil1)------->ground
MSD_WIRE_2--------------(Coil2)------->ground
Series (one box):
MSD_WIRE_1--------------(Coil1)---+ (connect the two coils to each other)
MSD_WIRE_2--------------(Coil2)---+
Parallel (one box):
(Coil1)=====MSD_BOX=====(Coil2)
Two boxes (each running one coil):
MSD_BOX_1========(Coil1)
MSD_BOX_2========(Coil2)
-Max
------- is one wire
==== is two wires
Won't work (one box):
MSD_WIRE_1--------------(Coil1)------->ground
MSD_WIRE_2--------------(Coil2)------->ground
Series (one box):
MSD_WIRE_1--------------(Coil1)---+ (connect the two coils to each other)
MSD_WIRE_2--------------(Coil2)---+
Parallel (one box):
(Coil1)=====MSD_BOX=====(Coil2)
Two boxes (each running one coil):
MSD_BOX_1========(Coil1)
MSD_BOX_2========(Coil2)
-Max
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Thanks for the clarification Max. Your ASCII art is actually quite clear the second time around.
I'm sure plenty of guys are running MSD boxes. I wonder if they're running them parallel or in series. Anyone?
I'm sure plenty of guys are running MSD boxes. I wonder if they're running them parallel or in series. Anyone?
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