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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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AF ratio's

Ok,

I hear a lot about the AF ratios that they should be between 11 and 12 what is exactly right?

Are these in metric, so 12 kgs of air to 1 kg of gas?

Please explain.

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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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11:1 = air to fuel ratio
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Re: AF ratio's

Originally posted by skim41
I hear a lot about the AF ratios that they should be between 11 and 12 what is exactly right?
No, you need to take your car to a professional tuner to determine the proper air-fuel ratio for your application.

Originally posted by skim41
Are these in metric, so 12 kgs of air to 1 kg of gas?
It is a mass ratio. The units make no difference.

Example:

12 kg air : 1 kg fuel = 12:1
12 g air : 1 g fuel = 12:1
12 mg air : 1 mg fuel = 12:1
12 pounds air : 1 pound fuel = 12:1
12 oz air : 1 oz fuel = 12:1
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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I thought it was a mol ration not a mass ratio?

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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by mwatson184
I thought it was a mol ration not a mass ratio?

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That also works.

Mol
Definition: [n] the molecular weight of a substance expressed in grams; the basic unit of amount of substance adopted under the System International d'Unites
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 01:14 AM
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ok thanks for that, but is the ratio for each car different? rx7 I mean than. I got a 3rd gen, and going to a t78 with mild streetport. open exhaust, and well everything on it.
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by skim41
ok thanks for that, but is the ratio for each car different? rx7 I mean than. I got a 3rd gen, and going to a t78 with mild streetport. open exhaust, and well everything on it.
1) Every engine is slightly different.
2) Every type and brand of gasoline is slightly different.
3) I assume you are attempting to tune the engine by reading a display from an air-fuel ratio gauge. The gauge may not be calibrated properly, and will give different readings depending on where you place the O2 sensor. You will not ever have a totally reliable reading unless you use special laboratory equipment.
4) Not very many people have the EXACT setup you have, and even if they did your engine would still act differently. See DCrosby's 4th post about this subject here:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=220817

Engine tuning is performed by adjusting trends, not specific numbers.
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