V8Killer

Ok I just recently got my 94 FD from a white lady paid 14 thousand cash..and a buddy of mines with a Built honda prelude is always talking smack about rotary's...saying they dont have no torque and blah blah blah....so me being the nice guy ask him to run on the highway....of course he puts on a lame excuse saying his tires are bald...so I say ok and move on towards my house.....I get on the highway on ramp nice and calm in fourth gear...shift to fifth and im crusing...jamming my old school big pun....then outta no where....pussss I hear him passing me with his lil turbo....I laugh and give it half throttle in fifth...At this time im around 2-3 cars behind him pacing him since in the aread where at theres too much construction...I start slowing down so he follows suit...then magically there we were...no cars...straight road and no sign of any cops...1:50 in milwaukee means all sheriff's are in shift change so there we are pacing each other going about 60 M.P.H....he starts honking at me so I agree....drop it into third gear...and pace him for a while...beep beep and vrooommm he takes off on the second honk me I laugh a little bit and go WOT...7K boom right next to him...I shift to fourth and go WOT once again...and thats it...its over..hes gone around 5 cars behind me...he follows me to my house again keeping his distance... so we get to my house and he immediately say's and I quote "My car is not runnning right" :smiley_12 so I guess thats the universal excuse for honda owners when they loose.... so thats my kill for my newly purchased 3rd gen...and btw mods are: RB dual exhaust, V-mount intercooler, fresh rebuild around 5K on it...and pushing stock PSI...not too much done to it but enough to take out honda's ...and yes I know about those rare fast honda's... ...sorry for the long read hope it was worth it :-D

10thAEWHiteHeat

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I don't mean to burst ur bubble... and trust me i am a big believer of "the 7 can't lose!" but.... a turbo Prelude, especially if its the H22 lighter 4th gen model would keep up with a mostly stock FD and thats on low boost. If the car is built right, they must be to handle boost anyway, it should have been much closer or even a win for the Honda. I hate giving credit to Honda owners but his car prbably wasn't running right. And from a roll that particular Honda engine (H22) should have alot more torque than the FD.

V8Killer

Ive driven his honda and trust me its not that fast...its a 95 honda with a H22 it has a T3 turbo with a 38mm wastegate..no intake manifold or cam gears at that....and HE says its fully built me? I have no clue whether it is or isn't..but most likely it isn't...

10thAEWHiteHeat

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in that case then i guess it makes sense. Those motors don't handle being turbo'd very well unless built correctly but when they are they are monsters. Like i said they have more torque than almost all of the other honda engines and a good power curve and bigger diaplacement. But 4-5 cars still sounds like alot... tell him he can fix it then run him again that way there are no excuses. Make sure he doesn't add anything else as the more supporting mods he has to the turbo really make a difference on that car. Tell him to be a man and just fix the problem if he really thinks he can beat you no extra mods. Have a witness and get it on VIDEO. BTW is it a 4th gen or a 5th gen?

V8Killer

im not sure what gen it is I dont know honda's much but I do know its a 95...it has the big tail lights..I say the best looking prelude that they made...hopefully when I run him again...I will have the power FC hooked up....The shop who installed it did a fuking crappy job...hey your in miami....are there any good shops there??? im looking in moving to miami..but not too happy about having to drive my car to miami..done it before but that was in a cadillac :-)

Henessey

thats a whole new level of excuses. The man follows you to your house to tell you his car isnt running right... like its going to change your perception of hondas being grocery cars anyways....

str8ryd

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^It's his friend so he didn't ONLY just follow him to his house to make excuses.

85rx-7gsl-se

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Honda guys are upset because they can't drift! No, really, they can be pretty fast. A friend of mine wants me to run his Civic Del Sol thats putting out 400hp at the wheels and runs 11.2 in the 1/4. I know my TII GSL-SE will lose, but I can still do donuts around him all day.

mr2d2

lol the guy drives a Honda trying to bash on other engines for not making torque... wow...

V8Killer

I know theres some fast honda's....a friend of a friend if you would say has a b16 hatch with racing pistons and tuned with a AEM stand alone and man that thing is a beast..all bone stock just with a turbo at around 20 psi dont know if thats possible but the guy has a shop so theres a chance it might be true...word is that he's running 11's but thats a have to see to believe.

10thAEWHiteHeat

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Miami is a great place to live and i would recommend u moving here. There are many shops down here just take a look in the SE sction forums. The only disadvantage is the animosity and drama between rotary owners.... look in the threads and you will see what i am talking about. Othere than that everything is great. It might take a while for you to get used to the traffic and hurricanes though. All the advantages make up for it tho IMO.

peachykeenwight

I get revved at by Hondas [specifically a black '96 with a cheap catback, CAI, rims and tires (3 different type tires), and "upgraded suspension." Upgraded suspension means he cut his springs a smidgen] daily after school.

When he first did it I stopped and talked to him for a second. He didn't know anything about rotaries, and as it turns out nothing about cars. He asked me why my "radiator" is mounted right in the bumper.

Still revs it daily.. but he tries to act like it's necessary. He's "warming his engine up."

BlkS5TII

Don't you know?!?! Hondas are the bestest evar!!!


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adictd2b00st

yea honda's can be fast, too bad 90% of them are half assed together and never run the right way! so i guess in a way atleast he was telling the truth? but he was also admitting that he falls into that category of people who sit on honda-tech all day and think they know everything !

TURBODUECE88

the most power ive eva seen a h22 make is around 550 and that was in import tunner and w/ a fully built motor and i belive it had spray. IMO a built 13b can handle a built h22 anyday. xspecially off the line as fwd has minimal traction during a launch.

just this mornen on the highway my friend took out a na prelude with his na gtu. he said he pulled pretty hard on him 2, just to let yall know

Mazda RX-7 EFINI TYPE

The prelude probably was not vtec. I've heard that if tuned properly, the H22 can produce 1000hp. The ricers are the one's who give honda's a bad name. I used to have a 2003 Honda Accord (until recently when my younger brother totalled it)...and even though you may say they can't drift...I sure as hell drifted it when I was racing a '68 GTO(WITHOUT the use of a handbrake). The back simply stepped out...I didn't even expect it, but that's how the suspension is set up. I'm not saying his car is faster, it's just that not all Honda drivers are cocky...some just race for the hell of it (like myself)...i got raped by a mustang GT once...that sucked...lol. But the other thing is that the race depends a lot on the driver too, seeing as half the cars me and my brother beat with that Accord should have probably beat us. I could tell you I'd never dream of racing an FD and expect to win...lol. We also beat a lot of cars with our '03 odyssey...that was quite satisfying in itself...lol. It's funny when you see the expression on a cocky young teen in his 3 series beemer after you've beat him with your minivan...lol. My brother beat an M3 full of a bunch of young kids before...we thought we were gonna get raaaaaaaaaped...but that kid clearly had no clue how to drive the car. Anyway...that's just my...2 cents...or maybe you'd like to say 4...seeing as it's quite a bit...lol. I actually don't own an RX-7 yet...but i hope to be buying an FC this summer, if possible. Going for an S5 Turbo . The RX-7 happens to be my favourite car...but I still frown upon it when ppl look down on hondas. It's not the car, it's the ppl who drive them. I believe that's about 6 cents now...so I think i'll stop here. Just another 2 cents of mine.

V8Killer

if the car is H22 as you see then buddy it is vtec...

Mechanic

hehe the only time i kept up/beat a h22, is my friend's accord, but his car has some serious problems lol it doesnt rev pass 4250 rpm or so he got some small mods on the car, more suspension work than anything else..

and also one of my friend's 97 prelude /w h22, but loaded with passengers... fat passenger lol. and i got me 1/4 tank gas, and one of my friend that is 120 lbs lol.

Mazda RX-7 EFINI TYPE

Sorry I didn't specify V8 Killer, but I was referrin to the post right before mine...and he never specified...he just said "na prelude"

V8Killer

were setting up a race this weekend hes putting on new tires up front and me im installing the pfc and hopefully tuning it for 12 psi or maybe a little more depending on how far the fuel system mods were taken...the person who originally did the work fuc!ked the whole car up. BTW he has a H22 with pistons and tuning with hondata s300 for I believe 10-15 psi im not sure...he says it has major boost creep...but idk he might be lieing but may not..and yes I will have video this time :-)

socalrotor

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thanks for the entertainment NOOB! 1000 HP huh!? LOLOLOL so you heard huh?! . You may now jump off a roof.

Mazda RX-7 EFINI TYPE

Wow...ur not the brightest character are you. It was actually from something official (though I can't remember exactly what), and it's not something I just pulled out of the air. I'm just stating what I heard...can't blame me for that. Sometimes immature guys like you find the STUPIDEST THINGS to argue about.

socalrotor

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Check it out noob, it you cant remember ****, keep your keyboard silent and read young grasshopper. As for the pot shot on brains, I would try to remember SOMETHING, ANYTHING, to stand behind with such a statements as I drifted my 03 accord! I work in advertising with Honda to name a few, so I can say with 100% confidence you didn't drift your accord, and beating a 68 GTO in the twisties is NOTHING to brag about. BUT I will say that I agree with you, the fact I would bother to point out a few issues with your info on Honda drifting and building h22a's, because we all know that bringing up the "stupid things" that came out of your mouth is pointless, you speak for yourself. So please enlighten me.1000 h22, ok it is posible but you have a 1000 rpm power band at most and over 60 PSI of boost and true dyno queens. they will never get traction so what is the point of a 1000hp FWD?

oo7arkman

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Hey make sure to let us all know how it goes. You should be ok to tune to 12psi, but I would not try and push it any higher. Before you do that really make sure what all has been done to the fuel system and from the sound of it I may REDO some of it just to be on the safe side. I used to own a 94 prelude(for about 6months) I sold it b/c it was just too slow for my taste and did not want to dump money into it. I think those years are some of the best looking preludes IMO. Well good luck!

oo7arkman

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Unfortunately I think you are confusing the art of drifting with the rear end of your car turing lose. Although the two may be similar in your mind, they are quite different.

I will agree with you that hondas due get a bad rep due to the driver population, BUT there are few honda owners that do not fit that bad profile....