all right im gonna start buy saying I dont know **** about chevys but I think this one had the ls1. my car is an 87 t2 that is boosting 11 psi on stock turbo. I just got the car so i dont know my numbers. I have 3 inch rb turbo back no emmisions and cone filter on a rebuilt motor with 40k. so this guy I work with has been talking **** about my (shitty import) and sayn he would smoke my car. The only reason i did race him is just yesterday I beat a camero ss with a 454. It looked like a late 60 somthin idk? so me and the z28 go from a 20 mph roll I pull mabey half a car through 2nd but when I shifted to third he pulled about a car on me. It stayed that way till the top of third but after 100 he walked me like i was siting still. oh and buy the way his car is bone stock and a/t! I just want to know what that car should run stock b/c I thought I would do alot better

 

I learned a tough lesson tonight, V8's are no joke, lol.

Granted I raced a fully built Cobra dyno'ing at 380hp, still, you've gotta be carefull with the domestics.

 

You guys need to get a first gen I have a S4 6port N/A 13b with a holley carb that could beat the 6speed ls1and could walk all over srt4s even when they had mods. Oh my car has nothing on the inside and weighs about 2200#

 

that doesnt sound right. i had the exact setup on my TII and i would hang even with newer SS cameros and Z28s sounds like maybe he had something more than "stock".

 

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CamAro CamAro CamAro CamAro... its not that hard to spell.. And since when did everyone start thinking that late model V8s are slow People need to get their head out of their asses and realize that even the LT1 powered F-bodies came with 275HP and 300+ TQ... and they know how to modify their cars too. It amazes me how many people are actually suprised when a V8 domestic beats them.... theyve been playing this game alot longer than us.

 

yea I realy dont think he was stock, oh and sorry bout the spelin It wuz realy late and I just got owned by a camaroe ha!

 

Stock ls1 camaros trap ~104-108 mph, while a t2 with few mods may break 100. Not hard to believe.

 

a fully built cobra running 380hp.. LMAO

that cobra was far from fully built. Cobras come forged from the factory. A "fully built" cobra has 700+hp.

03 cobras put down more than 380 to the wheels stock.

Even older cobras dont need to be fully built to gain simply 80-60more hp.

and LS1s are top end monsters, it amazes me how ignorant import guys are to domestics and vice versa.

 

the guy told me after we ran that his best time is 12.8 but i found that hard to believe because i was with him until 100 and I know my car is not in the 12's

 

Could have been driver error..not sure how it could be that bad since it was an automatic though. When I was at the track the other week, I mustve still had water on my tires from driving through the waterbox, and completely spun the tires through 1st and 2nd, ending up with a 15.2@104 in the 1/4.. I got beat by a VW golf on that run My next run I cracked off a 13.5@105, ( still spinning a bit) so you can see how even a small error can really affect a cars performance.

 

Did he know you were racing?

Do you have an FCD?

 

yea the ss knew we were racing it was real close I only had a car on him at 100, and yes I have a FCD my boost is at 11psi. Mabey my problem was fuel? When I ran the ss(which i thought would kick that new z28s ***) I did not go wot right at first I just graduely floored it and pulled hard as hell. with the z28 I just punched it right away and I realy dident pull as hard or atleast it felt like I dident. oh and I have all this on video I just dont know how to post it.

 

Uh, 12.8 is about right for a stock LS1 car. Remember, ell-ess-one, not ell-tee-one. These cars hit 12s in stock trim. I know, I've had one. I never had the 60' times to hit 12s, but I was hitting 13.2 on my best day and that was still with a crappy 60'. The idea of a TII out running an LS1 makes me giggle. Not sure where you got the idea that you could hang with him.

You beat the SS because it's an old muscle car and they're notoriously slow. They were cool in their day, but that day is long since past. Line that SS up against the late model Z28 and the Z is gonna win every time unless the SS is spraying.

Now, don't get me wrong. I love my Rx7 and I'll be taking it to the track, but you have to know what you're up against. People always go blaming their tuning or the weather or claiming that the other car must have had hidden nitrous... Nah. it's just a damned fast car! When I'm ready to buy another fast car, I'm getting another LS1 Trans Am.

 

All I can add to this is there are many others out there in Camaros, Fireturds and the like who have alot more money to pour into those motors. One thing they have over a rotary is low end torque. Even a 305 with a dead quadrajet is going to have more torque than your turbo FC I dont care what it is. At 1200 RPM the V8 is going to pull.
Now enter the not so exotic 9C1 Caprice police package. 260 horsepower and 330 pounds of grunt through a 3.23:1 gear and wide shoes its going to move. No Im not here to promote the latest "Caprice Vapor car" however with these engines in good supply there are plenty of wrenchers who are putting them into F bodies and making a threat to the RX. Believe me when I say the Caprice squad was one fast car. I was assigned a 9C1 for a good period of time and I can attest to the fact they are fast. How fast? My slicktop was good to 150 MPH and didnt waste time getting there. I think it was timed at around 14.5 in the 1/4 mile but my own timing showed it to be around 14.9 with all the radios that weighed 35 pounds each all in a car that weighed 4250 dry. Put that motor in a Camaro I dont care what year and its going to be a threat, can you win the race? Maybe but hes going to get his punches in as he's going down.

Our rotaries have an advantage over the piston motor and thats flat power curve while the piston engine has its peaks and drops. To harness the flat power is your biggest advantage especially when you know how to get it to the ground.

I know of 3 who have dropped the old police LT-1 into Firebirds and one mated to a 6-speed box, he is currently doing low 13's on a stock body and a few changes under the hood.

Personally I think the 1996 Caprice 9C1 was GMs best car period. Where can you have that kind of performance while relaxing on a couch?

988

 

new cobras test about 390 to the fly not the wheels

 

cobra put down 370-390 hp to the WHEELS stock. They are underrated from the factory.

 

my 87 tii had low compression on the motor was running stock boost and whooped my friends firebird lt1 with and automatic trans. it was from a roll also i dont know how the camaro and firebird compare but i thought i would throw it out there his firebird is 100% stock too