gnat's-ass7

That is quite possibly the coolest thing I had ever heard of. Nice work, Steve.

Now I want to live somewhere down there. Boise is great...unless you wanna see cool **** like that.

7at11

Oppressor

sickboy

i NEVER post in here, but i have to on this. you are a ******* gimp and obviously know NOTHING about bikes nor aerodynamics. the aerodynamics of a bike are ******* awful (~.87+, your avg. 18wheeler is only ~1.00. wheras an FD is in the high .20s i think) bikes really arent insane on the interstate. i know......i OWN a sportbike, and a modded single turbo RX-7.

a friend of mines 280Z with 340rwhp edged out an 01 ZX7R while i was in the car with him. and this was a friends bike. both are far crys from a 570hp FD and a200hp bike, but none the less show what happens to a bike on the interstate.

at any rate, dont post about things which u obviously have no understanding of.

Bean

dude you're an ignorant person sad to say

570rwhp in a FD is FAST... I guess you just don't have a clue...
would Pluto beat him from a stop? HELL no... but from a 60mph roll? where bikes have a weak point? yup definitely possible...

i've got videos of Walser's Supra making hp in the high 600s and he BLOWS AWAY a stock busa... and Pluto's car weighs a HELLUVA lot less than a overweight 3500lb Supra with two people in it...

the busa has TERRIBLE aerodynamics compared to a car... their drag coefficient is just ridiculously high... my mom's V6 mustang has less drag than a Busa...
now a turbo or NOS busa might be different, but we're talking about a stock busa; and if you want to start throwing in mods; i can do that too...RX-7s aren't highway cars so how about you talk about racing a car made for top-end? like a Supra? or just a 2jz-engined car in particular

but thats ok... Bike owners that only know bikes are ignorant like that, so its cool

here's the video:
http://www.swgronin.com/files/walser-vs-busa.mpeg

this is a stock bottom-end Supra running twin GT2835 turbos, 272 cams, 1.8bar and a 70shot of NOS...
and yes they know the guy on the bike, i can prove that too if you want to see the argument of Clint vs a couple ignorant bike owners... since his car was in the shop; his friend walser, with a slower car, raced a busa and beat his ***

Bean

yeah not off the line; nothing can compete with bikes off the line except for a full tubbed drag car with slicks; which Ari's car is NOT anymore...

run Ari on a roll and see how bad your nephews busa gets raped

GoodfellaFD3S

iTrader: (213)

I saw it with my own eyes, pal.

Are you calling me a liar?

And btw, we spoke w/the 'busa owner after the race and he was incredulous...he was giving it all he had.

gnat's-ass7

Need to get this **** on digital video, and post it here. Or just e-mail it straight to me. I NEVER SEE THIS KIND OF STUFF.
And it hurts...
*sob*

Mr rx-7 tt

iTrader: (5)

Rich, This is why I don't waste my time posting here anymore...I used to listen to idiots tell me no way I could have beaten that car/bike etc...(even though they weren't there and are arguing from the information you have given them) I ran 2 900 rr's and beat them from 70-140 and all I heard was no way a car can beat a bike, same with a couple of vipers and a BPU supra.....When I post a kill I'll do it on another forum with members that have IQ's higher than a dog...BTW: Bean was one of them...Hahahah..

Bean

I remember you...

Was it you or someone else? Because I remember that thread being about beating 900cc superbikes with a bolt-on only RX-7... which ain't gonna happen... because bolt-on RX-7s aren't that fast... 114-116mph traps or so...


but we're talking about Pluto's car here
I know that 350rwhp RX-7s (not bolton RX-7s) will run with superbikes from 70-140
if thats what your car was, and you were the one i doubted; then i apologize, i guess i got **** confused...
because I know a BPU Supra won't beat a 900cc+ Superbike and bolt-on RX-7s are slower than them on a roll (this is just about a roll people )

GoodfellaFD3S

iTrader: (213)

Actually man, my R1 is basically bolt-on...and I'm close to 350, just need injectors and tuning. That drag time is old, btw...I didn't have mp or ic then.

food for thought...

Yellow R1

Hi Bean.

Mr. RX-7 TT's car is sideways in anything under 3rd gear when the hammer is down ....I was back home visiting 2 months ago when we beat a newer Honda 900 from a 60 roll....

That thing hauls azzz.

See ya,
Matt

Bean

then i'm mistaking his car for someone else's

either way i'm figuring up that a 350rwhp RX-7 can take a 900cc superbike from a 70mph kick

can it take it off the line with equal drivers? HELLLL no...
i cover that point because its the first point bike owners try to make...
we're talking on a roll at 70mph against a vehicle that has a much lower drag coefficient and is much more stable, etc

RecKleSs

Why is it so hard to believe this story? Is it because there some ignorant people on this board, who really don't have a clue on the things Pluto's car can do. There were obviously witnesses who watched everything. Also, the owner of the bike is not going to take it all the way to 150+ mph without putting up a good fight. They even talked to one another after the race. I'm just going to stop, because there is no point trying to get through ignorant people. Anyway, sweet race Pluto.

7at11

[QUOTE]Originally posted by GoodfellaFD3S
[B]

I saw it with my own eyes, pal.

Are you calling me a liar?

Nope: That's why it said Opressor: BS Read before you Rip~

relvinnian

Just so you know the Walser supra dynoed at 851 rwhp with the setup you mentioned. On NOS and 2 bar he's running alot better power-to-weight ratio than almost any RX-7 I've seen. The SW supra with nearly the same setup and 30 less hp, ran a 9.81@153... With the right traction that trap speed would be good for VERY low 9's.

-Brian

BO0STEDRX7

BO0STEDRX7

I believe it 100% a friend of mine here in fl has a second gen rx7 full interior with the same hp as steve 580 and he made a pass of 10.1 143 mph with a shiti 60ft so the mph to hang with the busa is there...Congrats steve ..I also have a video of me racing my friends 900 ninJA ON MY FRIENDS SECOND GEN RX7 WITH ONLY T62 AND AT 20PSI street port, THAT WAS THE FIRST SECOND GEN RX7 TURBO CAR CRISPEED BUILT SO IT WAS A LONG TIME..So buddy if you dont believe it that means you havent drive a 500+hp rx7 or steve you are going to have to give him a ride..

7at11

Ya'll seem to be misunderstanding--- the bsflag was for "Oppressor." I know about freaking bike drag coefficients, I'm working on a mechanical engineering degree. That's why the had OPPRESSOR before it. Get it? Good.... I really just wanted to put up the bsflag because it makes me a happy person inside to see it standing so proud.....
Don't you get soft inside??

BO0STEDRX7

THIS IS FOR BEAN,

I saw that video and the pass also that supra is a very nice car ,but i still dont believe that he has stock bottom end, he at least has to have strong rods and the head port it,because to do 153 mph you have to have over 900 hp to the wheels
#1 aras car has 946 to the rear,stock piston ,strong rods and weights alot less because it has some interior parts taking off and does 9.6 149 mph only ,and you are telling me that sw made less {hp 850hp} than aras, weights ALOT MORE and does better mph yeah right AND ON A STOCK ENG JEJEJE sw has to be almost at 1000 at the rear unless he has alot of weight taking off also ,he is not fulling me..Why is so hard to believe that an rx7 can be as fast as a supra with less hp AND CAN BEAT MOTORCYCLES ALSO ,is not our fault that they came from the factory not that heavy is like when a rx7 beats a bpu supra they always bring the excuse of ,oh yeah the rx7 beat me because is lighter blablabla but you guys dont think that a bpu rx7 can do max 360 and puchin it 370 on a stock eng not like a supra that does 450 -460 rear hp in other words rx7s weight less but doesnt have the big hp that the supra has.. And if we are going to start comparing with fast supras full interior lets compare with aris rx7 full interior with less hp that it has now, it made 9.5 147 mph now thats fast, i can imagine if he puts back the slicks problably 9.40s 9.30s and if we are going to talk about stock bottom end crispeed already made a 9.2 150+ lifting on 1st and 2nd i know is not street car,is a race car but i know when he fix the suspension he would do mid to low 8s and thats on a stock bottom end rx7 that means (STOCK APEX SEALS) NO CERAMIC NO NOTHING STOCK YUST BRIDGE AND STREET PORT AND THAT ENGINE BEEN RUNING FOR ALMOST 2 YRS OR MORE WITH OUT BRAKING AND NOW IS MAKING 651 REAR HP ON NITROUS..

RX-7 GT

THIS IS FOR BOOSTEDRX7

Why do you find it so hard to believe that a supra has 851hp on a stock bottom end? The JZA80 Supra's aren't like Honda's or your common import. There has been quite a few people to acheive this much HP on a stock 2J-GTE block. It takes alot of planning and right selected parts, but it has been done more than enough to prove it's one of the strongest engines in the world.

also he never says the Walser supra did the 9.81@150mph, it was the "SW" supra with nearly the same setup. Who care's if he has less HP, maybe the car is gutted, lightened or whatever, all he posted was the car's time and you said OH NO it can't. Things such as those you never took into account before posting.

MPH has some to do with HP, but just cause dick has 900hp and jane has xxxhp doesn't mean she can't a higher trap speed. You have to take into account gearing, ecu alterations, **** like that.

I love ranting

relvinnian

LOL, calm down man! I wasn't trying to get into a supra/rx-7 debate here, I own an RX-7 for a reason! . I'll try to respond to this longwinded reply in order (you could use some cliff notes). First of all I'm not BEAN . Ok, now if you think a supra can't run 850 rwhp on a stock bottom end, then you need to research your facts. Let's take a look at the aftermarket for a supra, and look where the $$$ is. Higher flowing heads? Nope, the stock heads are awesome. Pistons, and head gaskets... nope again, stock compression is perfect for high boost. ECU? Stock ECU runs perfectly with piggybacks. Downpipe, mp, catback, turbo systems, nos, fuel upgrades? Now we're talking. So you're saying to pull a 153 mph pass, you need over 850 rwhp on a 3600 lbs car? Are you joking?? Crispeed's car weighs 1200 less... but he has 200 less RWHP. Take into account that, weight is LESS of a factor in high speeds, and the supra has a better frontal drag CD... you have you're numbers. You say "Why is so hard to believe that an rx7 can be as fast as a supra with less hp AND CAN BEAT MOTORCYCLES ALSO"? ROFL. I was defending Steve's car in that respect in my earlier posts... I guess you didn't read all that ? I'm not going to even respond to your little RX-7 vs. Supra debate... been done before! It's just .

You know why Crispeed lifts off the ground like that (besides massive power )? He's got a mopar solid rear axle suspension, and a V-box shifter w/ straight cut gears. Why are you comparing Crispeed's car to the supra, it has no relavence. You are comparing a race car with a street car... A street car that has completely different gearing (supra's have amazing top-end gearing, another fact that makes for high MPH's), suspension setup, drag coefficients, power-to-weight. LOL.

I hope I've educated you on the matters of.... well, supras and stuff

-Brian

pluto

Here're some food for thought....


to give you an idea what a car is capable of in a 1/4 mile track

an average Busa runs approx 6.6-6.7's at around 121mph and they trap the 1/4 at around 140-142mph.

That's about a 20-22mph gain in the last 1/8 mile

an modified car (let's take mine for an example) runs anywhere from a 6.5-6.8 in an 1/8 at 105-107mph and trap the 1/4 at around 136-139mph.

That's about 30-33mph gain in the last 1/8 mile.

You can see that a car accelerates alot faster than a bike in the last 1/8 mile because the drag comes into play on the bike. You can look at any other drag times on any descent hp car (even BPU rx7 or BPU supras) and compare it to any bikes and analyze the last 1/8mile of the trap speed difference. you'll see that they average around 30mph gain from the last 1/8 in a car. Bike on the other hand is about 20mph max....

So you can see, areodynamics really come into play in a bike much higher as the speed increases in the last 1/8

BTW, I recently ran a 10.28@128mph lifting. My 1/8mile is 6.56@108mph I have ran 136mph with a 104mph in the 1/8 so if you add an additional 32mph I gain in the last 1/8, I would have ran approx 140mph trap

rmani

hey pluto what do you mean when you say lifting? are you saying the front of your car was lifting up or something? also i read earlier that you had a t66 turbo in your car, and you're running something like 24 lbs or boost?? I am just curious b/c when i am considering going to a t66 eventually when i get my rx7 and after i slowly work my way up through the mods...just curious what you think is a safe boost setting to run with such a turbo setup? thanks!

rx7_ragtop

Lifting... he lifted his foot off the throttle on the top end to keep from running 9's and getting DQ'd like Ari did earlier this year. Steve doesn't have an NHRA license (you have to if you run 9's) and I don't think his chassis is certified either, also a requirement.

BO0STEDRX7

[QUOTE]Originally posted by relvinnian
LOL, calm down man! I wasn't trying to get into a supra/rx-7 debate here, I own an RX-7 for a reason! . I'll try to respond to this longwinded reply in order (you could use some cliff notes). First of all I'm not BEAN . Ok, now if you think a supra can't run 850 rwhp on a stock bottom end, then you need to research your facts. Let's take a look at the aftermarket for a supra, and look where the $$$ is. Higher flowing heads? Nope, the stock heads are awesome. Pistons, and head gaskets... nope again, stock compression is perfect for high boost. ECU? Stock ECU runs perfectly with piggybacks. Downpipe, mp, catback, turbo systems, nos, fuel upgrades? Now we're talking. So you're saying to pull a 153 mph pass, you need over 850 rwhp on a 3600 lbs car? Are you joking?? Crispeed's car weighs 1200 less... but he has 200 less RWHP. Take into account that, weight is LESS of a factor in high speeds, and the supra has a better frontal drag CD... you have you're numbers. You say "Why is so hard to believe that an rx7 can be as fast as a supra with less hp AND CAN BEAT MOTORCYCLES ALSO"? ROFL. I was defending Steve's car in that respect in my earlier posts... I guess you didn't read all that ? I'm not going to even respond to your little RX-7 vs. Supra debate... been done before! It's just .

You know why Crispeed lifts off the ground like that (besides massive power )? He's got a mopar solid rear axle suspension, and a V-box shifter w/ straight cut gears. Why are you comparing Crispeed's car to the supra, it has no relavence. You are comparing a race car with a street car... A street car that has completely different gearing (supra's have amazing top-end gearing, another fact that makes for high MPH's), suspension setup, drag coefficients, power-to-weight. LOL.

I hope I've educated you on the matters of.... well, supras and stuff

-Brian [/QUOTE.. NOOOOOOO REALLY I DIDNT KNEW THAT CRIS HAD A RACE CAR THEM MAN WHAT A DISCOVERY YOU DID ..Listen buddy you are going to have to stop reading magazines and stop believing in forums,AND WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT REASEARCH ,YOU MEAN IF I GO TO THE LIBRARY I WILL FIND A BOOK THAT SAYS THAT SUPRAS CAN HOLD 1000HP ON a STOcK ENG HAHAHAHA ,oh iam sorry i mistake you meant go and buy the turbo magazine year by year and research or go to www.supraforums and do reasearch bwahaha you are funny men , ISEE THAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT A SUPRA HAS GOOD PIsTON AND RODS,HEADS ExcT.. YOU HAVE ONE? HAVE YOU BUILT ONE?,firstable buy a video camera then tell you buddy with the lexus to film everything,buy a supra built it, do the hp and the mph that sw is doing on a stock eng then post.. STOP BELIEVING IN FORUMS AND magazines ,and i now crispeed is not a street car if you read right i said that i knew is a race car i was yust leting you know that rx7s can do good hp on a stock bottom end eng and not brake as fast as people think.. i HAVE DROVE AND RACE 600+HP SUPRAS AND 600+ RX7S I KNOW WHAT THEY HOLD, seen a few at the dyno braking rods at 650hp rear with the right fuel mixture here in orlando,also seen them braking piston on bpu.. And if you dont want the rx7 vs supra bull, again stop talking about supras and bringing to the forum walsers supra, sw,this guys turbo lexus and compering it with steve car unless is a topic about a race between a supra and an rx7 then you can bring what ever you want and thats for you and bean.....

Li Hao Zhe - No personal attacks guy....