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08-20-06, 06:36 PM
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Race Tonight
My friend and i are finally going to race our cars tonight.
He has a 1991 Dodge Stealth R/T V6 Dohc Manual
I have a 1991 S5 Turbo II Rx-7 Manual
Does anyone have a guess at who you think will win?
He thinks he's gonna kick my ***, but i am pretty confident in my rx-7. His stealth is pushing maybe 210 HP and my rx-7 is pushing like 215 HP. Of course my rx-7 is way lighter than his stealth but he also has more torque. I think we might be racing a quarter mile.
He has a 1991 Dodge Stealth R/T V6 Dohc Manual
I have a 1991 S5 Turbo II Rx-7 Manual
Does anyone have a guess at who you think will win?
He thinks he's gonna kick my ***, but i am pretty confident in my rx-7. His stealth is pushing maybe 210 HP and my rx-7 is pushing like 215 HP. Of course my rx-7 is way lighter than his stealth but he also has more torque. I think we might be racing a quarter mile.
08-20-06, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by vipers
is his the r/t twin turbo/all wheel drive? if not, then he doesnt stand a chance! my bro has a 91 stealth r/t... and i blew the doors off of him several times in my relatively stock s4 t2.... if hes a tt-awd.. then it'll be close!
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08-20-06, 10:50 PM
#8
Originally Posted by Jager
R/T is the DOHC N/A.
and saynotopistons... you left out the r/t n/a... its a dohc whereas the es was a sohc..so times should be slightly better for the r/t
heres a pic of the tt-awd
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPi...h%20RT%20Turbo
08-20-06, 10:54 PM
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Wow, you guys are ******* retarded. A TT would rape the **** outta his damn car. Go to 3SI.org and educate yourselves.
TTs = 320hp/mid-high 13s @ 102+mph.
If you have full exhaust and you run from a roll then it might be close...but I think you'd be a better match for a DOHC non turbos that run mid-low 15s at 91-92mph if you're stock.
If you don't believe me then please run him and post the results.
TTs = 320hp/mid-high 13s @ 102+mph.
If you have full exhaust and you run from a roll then it might be close...but I think you'd be a better match for a DOHC non turbos that run mid-low 15s at 91-92mph if you're stock.
If you don't believe me then please run him and post the results.
Last edited by KhanArtisT; 08-20-06 at 10:58 PM.
08-20-06, 10:58 PM
#10
Originally Posted by KhanArtisT
Wow, you guys are ******* retarded. A TT would rape the **** outta his damn car. Go to 3SI.org and educate yourselves.
TTs = 320hp/mid-high 13s @ 102+mph.
If you have full exhaust and you run from a roll then it might be close...but I think you'd be a better match for a DOHC non turbos that run mid-low 15s at 91-92mph.
If you don't believe me then please run him and post the results.
TTs = 320hp/mid-high 13s @ 102+mph.
If you have full exhaust and you run from a roll then it might be close...but I think you'd be a better match for a DOHC non turbos that run mid-low 15s at 91-92mph.
If you don't believe me then please run him and post the results.
more than likely you're right, if it is in fact a VR4 AWD version BUT that hasn't been said yet.... who's the ******* retard now?
edit: just noticed you're a yacht lover, no wonder your post was so full of sarcasm.
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08-20-06, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by vipers
yeah, i know.... but the twin turbo is also called an r/t... unlike the 3000gt which had the vr-4... dodge called 2 models the r/t... the dohc n/a and the tt-awd.. but the tt-awd had extra badging on the doors that said "twin turbo"
and saynotopistons... you left out the r/t n/a... its a dohc whereas the es was a sohc..so times should be slightly better for the r/t
heres a pic of the tt-awd
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPi...h%20RT%20Turbo
and saynotopistons... you left out the r/t n/a... its a dohc whereas the es was a sohc..so times should be slightly better for the r/t
heres a pic of the tt-awd
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPi...h%20RT%20Turbo
08-20-06, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Karack
more than likely you're right, if it is in fact a VR4 AWD version BUT that hasn't been said yet.... who's the ******* retard now?
edit: just noticed you're a yacht lover, no wonder your post was so full of sarcasm.
edit: just noticed you're a yacht lover, no wonder your post was so full of sarcasm.
Originally Posted by rotaryracer1
you will smoke his *** if you know how to drive and launch, no doubt. have fun be safe.
Originally Posted by Marek
Try and go from a roll and you'll have em no probs
08-20-06, 11:06 PM
#13
Originally Posted by KhanArtisT
Wow, you guys are ******* retarded. A TT would rape the **** outta his damn car. Go to 3SI.org and educate yourselves.
TTs = 320hp/mid-high 13s @ 102+mph.
If you have full exhaust and you run from a roll then it might be close...but I think you'd be a better match for a DOHC non turbos that run mid-low 15s at 91-92mph if you're stock.
If you don't believe me then please run him and post the results.
TTs = 320hp/mid-high 13s @ 102+mph.
If you have full exhaust and you run from a roll then it might be close...but I think you'd be a better match for a DOHC non turbos that run mid-low 15s at 91-92mph if you're stock.
If you don't believe me then please run him and post the results.
oh, and maybe you should do a little forum searching yourself! s5 turbo 2's arent as slow as you'd think! especially w/ very light mods to them (exhaust, fcd, intake)
Last edited by vipers; 08-20-06 at 11:10 PM.
08-20-06, 11:07 PM
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more than likely he would have known and posted if it was a TT, that is something you usually don't overlook when comparing vehicles but also the DOHC description less the turbo doesn't add up so clarification is needed. calling people retards because info is missing isn't exactly the best way to make friends.
08-20-06, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by vipers
lol..gotta love people that think their cars are better than god! all those times posted are from pro drivers when the cars were new! ive seen MANY tt-awd's put down mid 14 second 1/4's.... maybe low 14's... those are more reasonable times, concidering the car is 15 years old and probubly isnt running to its prime.. and i doubt there is a professional driver behind the wheel! and since that car weighs almost 500lbs more than a fc, i think the power to weight ratio is pretty damn close!
oh, and maybe you should do a little forum searching yourself! s5 turbo 2's arent as slow as you'd think! especially w/ an exhaust on them
oh, and maybe you should do a little forum searching yourself! s5 turbo 2's arent as slow as you'd think! especially w/ an exhaust on them
S5 TII : 2900lbs/ 200hp = 14.5
TT 3/S : 3800lbs/ 320hp = 11.875
Close? Not exactly...
From what I've read and been told S5 TIIs run mid 13s with full exhaust. I am fully aware of how quick they are bud, its the reason I bought one.
Originally Posted by Karack
more than likely he would have known and posted if it was a TT, that is something you usually don't overlook when comparing vehicles but also the DOHC description less the turbo doesn't add up so clarification is needed. calling people retards because info is missing isn't exactly the best way to make friends.
08-20-06, 11:30 PM
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All I can dig up at the moment, too sleepy.
http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=330612
Cliffnotes:
Just letting you know that 1st gens (like the 93 ^^) run low 12 psi and the 2nd gens 94+ run 14psi bumping them up to 320bhp vs. the 1st gens' 300. As you might have guessed this is a common mod for first gens 
Sorry for the dissapointment.
Edit: OK OK, last one:
http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=322978
Cliffnotes:
http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=330612
Cliffnotes:
Originally Posted by marium_3kgt
Well I just got back from the track or actually got back from a party that I went to after the track.:bandit: I've built this car with a relatively low miles motor and tranny from the ground up. I didnt want to race it as I will be selling it very soon, but why put all this work into it and not have just a little fun. It still has the stock clutch with a couple thousand miles, so I had to baby it out of the hole with a little bog. The only performance mods it has are:
K&N FIPK
Turbo XS Blow-off Valve
Gutted O2 Housings
Custom downpipe with no cat
Denso Supra Pump
Manual Boost Control @ 14psi
I initially wanted to go to San Antonio Raceway for their superior (in many ways) track over Temple Academy, but SAR wasn’t having the test-n-tune and Temple was. So considering I was only looking to break into the 13’s with a solid 13.9 or lower; I did quite well to my expectations. First run was with the car not even cooled down, just coming in from a 40 mile trip I lined right up and ran the car.
60ft- 1.796
1/4m-12.876
Mph- 105.86
Second run:
60ft- 1.832
1/4m-12.851
Mph- 106.28
The third run was up against a Z06 and I got kinda nervous and bogged the launch:
60ft- 1.935
1/4m-13.001
Mph- 106.36
After that it was the Import Shootout first round qualifying with a 12.8 dial-in:
60ft- 1.883
1/4m-12.900
Mph- 106.46
Won this one and moved on.
Won the second round with a free run. (odd amount of cars in that round so I automatically move on).
Then moved on to win the third round with a 12.9 dial in and feathering the throttle at the end in fear of a breakout.
60ft- 1.817
1/4m-13.041
Mph- 95.52
I was then in the Semi-Finals up against a ricer car. I had a good launch and beat the guy but broke out on a 12.9 dial-in.
60ft- 1.795
1/4m-12.805
Mph- 106.03
After I lost and was ready to take off, I had one more run and gave it all it had on the stock clutch.
60ft- 1.793
1/4m-12.766
Mph- 106.03
Overall I was very pleased with what this car can do with the minimal amount of mods done. I wish I didn’t have to sell it considering the potential it really has.
K&N FIPK
Turbo XS Blow-off Valve
Gutted O2 Housings
Custom downpipe with no cat
Denso Supra Pump
Manual Boost Control @ 14psi
I initially wanted to go to San Antonio Raceway for their superior (in many ways) track over Temple Academy, but SAR wasn’t having the test-n-tune and Temple was. So considering I was only looking to break into the 13’s with a solid 13.9 or lower; I did quite well to my expectations. First run was with the car not even cooled down, just coming in from a 40 mile trip I lined right up and ran the car.
60ft- 1.796
1/4m-12.876
Mph- 105.86
Second run:
60ft- 1.832
1/4m-12.851
Mph- 106.28
The third run was up against a Z06 and I got kinda nervous and bogged the launch:
60ft- 1.935
1/4m-13.001
Mph- 106.36
After that it was the Import Shootout first round qualifying with a 12.8 dial-in:
60ft- 1.883
1/4m-12.900
Mph- 106.46
Won this one and moved on.
Won the second round with a free run. (odd amount of cars in that round so I automatically move on).
Then moved on to win the third round with a 12.9 dial in and feathering the throttle at the end in fear of a breakout.
60ft- 1.817
1/4m-13.041
Mph- 95.52
I was then in the Semi-Finals up against a ricer car. I had a good launch and beat the guy but broke out on a 12.9 dial-in.
60ft- 1.795
1/4m-12.805
Mph- 106.03
After I lost and was ready to take off, I had one more run and gave it all it had on the stock clutch.
60ft- 1.793
1/4m-12.766
Mph- 106.03
Overall I was very pleased with what this car can do with the minimal amount of mods done. I wish I didn’t have to sell it considering the potential it really has.
Sorry for the dissapointment.
Edit: OK OK, last one:
http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=322978
Cliffnotes:
Originally Posted by mojo3120
Got 3 runs in...Matt gave me some tips on how to launch (never tried to launch an awd bf) and I finally got the launch down on the 3rd try @ 5000rpm, where I didn't bog. Only mods are pretty much boost controller @ 14.5 and intrax.
1st Pass
60' - 2.688
1/4 - 14.6 @ 101.02
2nd Pass
60' - 2.254
1/4 - 14.168 @ 100.76
3rd Pass (Smoked this chinese guy in a Turbo S2000 )
60' - 2.066
1/4 - 13.635 @ 103.32
Here's some pics while I was waiting in the staging line for 30 min (they had a jet car there that ran a low 6 and then went into the wall, he trapped 213 @ the 1/8 mile mark and 230 something @ the 1/4)
1st Pass
60' - 2.688
1/4 - 14.6 @ 101.02
2nd Pass
60' - 2.254
1/4 - 14.168 @ 100.76
3rd Pass (Smoked this chinese guy in a Turbo S2000
)60' - 2.066
1/4 - 13.635 @ 103.32
Here's some pics while I was waiting in the staging line for 30 min (they had a jet car there that ran a low 6 and then went into the wall, he trapped 213 @ the 1/8 mile mark and 230 something @ the 1/4)
Last edited by KhanArtisT; 08-20-06 at 11:34 PM.
08-21-06, 12:42 AM
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ok... this is turning into a pissing contest..... so ill keep it simple....
ok... they both have boost controllers, and are both running 14lbs of boost..... and the 12 second car had even more mods...... when i said low 14's, i was referring to bone stock cars... not modified! if you put an exhaust, boost controller,fcd, and intake on both cars... (both running 12-14 lbs of boost) i bet the fc would take the stealth! 12s arent that difficult to reach in a modded 7 either! but regardless, i never said anything negative about the stealth.. i love that car! its a hell of a car! its damn fast too! but i dont think its out of reach of getting beat by an fc w/ the same supporting mods
ok, im done...... nighty night
ok... they both have boost controllers, and are both running 14lbs of boost..... and the 12 second car had even more mods...... when i said low 14's, i was referring to bone stock cars... not modified! if you put an exhaust, boost controller,fcd, and intake on both cars... (both running 12-14 lbs of boost) i bet the fc would take the stealth! 12s arent that difficult to reach in a modded 7 either! but regardless, i never said anything negative about the stealth.. i love that car! its a hell of a car! its damn fast too! but i dont think its out of reach of getting beat by an fc w/ the same supporting mods
ok, im done...... nighty night
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08-21-06, 02:04 AM
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HAHAHA, YES, man i kicked his ***!!! we raced a curvy road and man i blew his *** to hell. he got all mad at me and went home, i won $100 out of it. and his dodge stealth is not twin turbo, just r/t. Front wheel drived bastard, i kicked his ***, and he was so confedent. wow, im not gonna be able to sleep tonight. thanks for all of your guys' comments. he wants a rematch tomorrow on a straight away. so ill keep you guys posted. thx again!!!
08-21-06, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by vipers
ok... this is turning into a pissing contest..... so ill keep it simple....
ok... they both have boost controllers, and are both running 14lbs of boost..... and the 12 second car had even more mods...... when i said low 14's, i was referring to bone stock cars... not modified! if you put an exhaust, boost controller,fcd, and intake on both cars... (both running 12-14 lbs of boost) i bet the fc would take the stealth! 12s arent that difficult to reach in a modded 7 either! but regardless, i never said anything negative about the stealth.. i love that car! its a hell of a car! its damn fast too! but i dont think its out of reach of getting beat by an fc w/ the same supporting mods
ok, im done...... nighty night
ok... they both have boost controllers, and are both running 14lbs of boost..... and the 12 second car had even more mods...... when i said low 14's, i was referring to bone stock cars... not modified! if you put an exhaust, boost controller,fcd, and intake on both cars... (both running 12-14 lbs of boost) i bet the fc would take the stealth! 12s arent that difficult to reach in a modded 7 either! but regardless, i never said anything negative about the stealth.. i love that car! its a hell of a car! its damn fast too! but i dont think its out of reach of getting beat by an fc w/ the same supporting mods
ok, im done...... nighty night
The first one I posted was to show you that if it runs high 12s BPU, then it shouldn't be too far off a stock time. I never said 12s was hard to reach in a modded 7 either...seems that you're getting so pussyhurt you're assuming ****. I don't even give a **** that they're faster, they're ******* boats. A member on 3SI took his VR4 to a road course and ended up spinning out like 3 times and crashing the car...
And that one guy that tried to run from the cops and hit a telephone pole taking a turn too hard... 
Originally Posted by EL5Letra
LOL uhmm..dodge r/t stealh < rotary engine LOl come on. donw here those things get slaughterd liek cattle
Originally Posted by EL5Letra
i can"t even start to belive you doubt your car (unless u have an unhealthy engine) , especially against a vehicle liek that one .
Originally Posted by kilous
HAHAHA, YES, man i kicked his ***!!! we raced a curvy road and man i blew his *** to hell. he got all mad at me and went home, i won $100 out of it. and his dodge stealth is not twin turbo, just r/t. Front wheel drived bastard, i kicked his ***, and he was so confedent. wow, im not gonna be able to sleep tonight. thanks for all of your guys' comments. he wants a rematch tomorrow on a straight away. so ill keep you guys posted. thx again!!!
The difference b/w R/TS / RT TTs is not just FWD, also 2 turbos 
He must not go on 3SI, because when you're surrouned by 12/11 second TTs it kinda takes away all the confidence you have...hahaha. Sorry man but your friend sounds like a retard...Sounds like one of those people that look at the car and say 'OH **** THAT LOOKS FAST SON' and start racing whoever they see. Nice kill 
08-21-06, 10:42 AM
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A member on 3SI took his VR4 to a road course and ended up spinning out like 3 times and crashing the car... And that one guy that tried to run from the cops and hit a telephone pole taking a turn too hard..
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The only factor that takes away from road racing a vr4 is weight. It will and allways will be generally slower than a 7 in the turns. And you must be a fool if you think a rwd has better traction than an awd. the guy spun out.... I thought we all knew by now not everyone can drive what they own... Ive never spun out. Ive never lost traction. Dont say what you dont know, thats how misconseptions occur. Dont you feel bad for the poor guy that bought his civic hearing its the best thing since the internet? Well same ****. Just dont run your mouth, you give people false impressions of something you dont own or never drove.
(Im making sure you know im not flaming you im just explaining)
on a better note====
Racing an Non turbo 3000gt or stealth is like racing a fwd fd with 1 rotor and no turbos. They are two completley diffrent classes. As a matter of fact.... before i left for WVU... 2 sundays ago I raced my my friends fd... 5 or 6 times.He has 300+whp and at the time ALL i had was a new clutch. I wont give his forum name....
And he is not a bad driver so dont give me that excuse
Results
1. dead stop to top of 1st gear
I won by 2-3 cars
2. same as above
3. From a dead stop to 110-115mph
I won by 4+ cars
4.Basically same as above, shitty launch by me 2-3 cars
5. From a 2nd gear roll my door was at his door till top of 3rd then he had me by a car
6.I raced him with me driving my friends new SRT 4, My 1st time EVER launching the thing I beat him by a car, that is on VIDEO
7. I raced a bpu STR4 in my car, I killed him on the launch but by end of 1st he was 2 cars behind
Like ive said anything can happen on the street, so stop being so biased its old.
Dont take this as a my car is better than your car BS,I have nothing but respect for a rotary. im stating FACT and TRUTH, giving an actual situation not just running my mouth like some of the trolls on this forum, Funny, most of them own nothing but N/As and are fd fanboys. Stop putting down every car that competes against something you dont and will NEVER own. You rarley see FD guys sound like "my cars better than yours, your viper is slow, your cobra is slow" Since when has a 11.9 in the 1/4 for a stock car been slow? See my point?
I wont be able to post back for a while im dont have Internet in my dorm yet im im using the library. Later guys
if you still dont understand where im coming from, let me make it easy for you.
VR4s are slow.
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if you put an exhaust, boost controller,fcd, and intake on both cars... (both running 12-14 lbs of boost) i bet the fc would take the stealth! 12s arent that difficult to reach in a modded 7 either! but regardless, i never said anything negative about the stealth.. i love that car! its a hell of a car! its damn fast too! but i dont think its out of reach of getting beat by an fc w/ the same supporting mods
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Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
0-60 1/4
1991 Dodge Stealth ES 7.1 15.6
1991 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo 6.0 14.5
1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II 6.3 14.9
this is gona be good.
1991 Dodge Stealth ES 7.1 15.6
1991 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo 6.0 14.5
1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II 6.3 14.9
this is gona be good.
I ran 13.9 on my bone stock rt twin turbo.