aGoGo

Not sure about this, still couldn't believe it! My car got about 300 maybe more horse with a BNR stage3 and things supporting it. Is that possible that I win because of the car, or my friend was "easy" on me? Yeah, he got a brand new EVO 9. We had a rolling start.

Boostmaniac

Rolling start gives you an incredible advantage. From a dig he has an incredible advantage. Race from a dig and see how that race ends up.

Depending on what speed you started, you probably rolled him fair and square if he was stock.

Turbo23

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Node

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1) does he know how to drive it
2) he has way less hp than you (if his is stock)
3) its awd and from a roll

I'm not suprised that you beat him from a roll

fc3sfreek

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i beat evos from a roll all the time... and im still on the stock turbo/IC. there too overrated.

staticguitar313

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i kept up with an evo 8 in my NA from a rolling start for a lil bit

RETed

I dunno what the numbers on an EVO is, but...

WRX STi puts out 300bhp at the flywheel, but it barely does 230hp at the wheels on a DynoJet.
An FC turbo puts out 230hp at the wheels with a full exhaust.
The AWD eats up a LOT of hp.
I wouldn't be surprised the EVO9 barely puts down 250 at the wheels.
Which give you the advantage...

Not surprising...


-Ted

Twofer

Try it again in the rain.

rocket859

I believe you rolled him fair dude. Unless that evo had more than 250 HP, u can destroy him easy.

My5ABaby

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I bet he was pissed that his ~$30,000 car got it's *** handed to it by a 20+ year old car.

BlkS5TII

You're retarded. I'm tired of seeing stupid comments like this. Last I checked the 20+ year old car started at the equivalent of $30k+ and is now taking advantage of more modern technologies. Maybe if he was only running aftermarket parts from his model year could he claim anything special.

An Evo IX puts down 270whp in bone stock form. The fact that he weighs more and it was from a roll makes it no surprise that you are faster with 300+whp.

Evo overrated? No offense, but the RX7 doesn't exactly hold as many Japanese track records let alone the WRC.

Modded v. stock is a no brainer guys, and I don't see any stock RX7's running 12's.

BoostedFd3s

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good kill...you should've easily walked him from a roll...as i did the same to a EVO 9 MR awhile back with approx. 300rwhp...but you should try it from a dig...it'll be more challenging

aGoGo

The 7 definitly got the respect. Still I am surprized. Yeah, he is stock with minor add-ons and I still wondering whether the EVO 9 was put to its full potential. Anyways, I am having fun with the 7. Cheers

NESpeed

Here is a video of me eating my friends Modded EVO 8, (his mods are full 3" turbo back, hard pipes/ w intake, SAFCw/WB, and SSQ. Some videos are me stock twins and then then single.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co9drEWDa1I

older video my friend made
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itTY-U1Yx9U

BlkS5TII

Evos that have aftermarket intakes and bov's are often slower than stock.

NESpeed

Obviously you don't know much about the stock BOV for the EVO8. Most every EVO drive will upgrade there BOV just for the plain fact that the stock has a extremely bad leak.

BlkS5TII

I know that it leaks, but not at near stock boost levels. If they don't fully recirculate then they will lose power. Most just switch to the one from the MR and are set.

KeloidJonesJr.

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Naw, AWD's are superior to putting power down to the ground for quick acceleration.

KeloidJonesJr.

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Anyway, pics of your car aGoGo?

amp

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why must everyone use the quarter mile.. go straight run for comparison.
its one factor.. among many of factors on how a vehicle should be rated..

BlkS5TII

Correct, but you do realize that the Evo is definitely no slouch in the turns as well right?

Node

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Yeah, WHEN TRACTION IS A PROBLEM. If your car isn't spinning tires than having rwd or awd doesnt mean a damned thing.

RWD is superior except when limited by traction.
Unless you're doing a roll in the snow or ice, the RWD car will be faster if they have the same weight/power. The AWD just eats up more horsepower through the drivetrain.

AWD's are only better from a stop w/ a good clutch drop or in the snow/rain.

I'm also talking about forward acceleration, not handling.


Blks5tii: 270whp my ***. They only have 286 flywheel horserpower to start w/?
270whp in a evo is probably more like 350 at the flywheel.
Unless theyre massively underrated from the factory like skyline GT-Rs (which could be possible as its a very stout engine) then 286hp does not come anything near 270whp. More like 220awhp

-Ben "I'm never wrong, seriously" Martin

BlkS5TII

Evo IX's are putting down 270whp bone stock. I've posted several links here before since nobody EVER believes it until they see the dynos. YES, they are underrated, and frankly I'm too tired to go searching for you. Check out evolutionm.net if you seriously care enough.

They have bigger turbos than the VIII's and run more boost.

An AWD car with equal hp/weight to the wheels will be just as fast if not faster since it will be easier to get the better launch. The losses through AWD only count when you're looking at the flywheel hp.

Also, AWD does help get power to the ground. I recently started autox'ing and in areas where the S2k would spin the rear around with a bit too much throttle the Evo would just be able to accelerate through. AWD helped accelerate faster and earlier out of the tighter turns. Not everyone runs on perfect pavement with R compound tires, so AWD does help.

Heisenberg

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Its a perfectly legitimate comment. Regardless of what the car cost 20+ years ago I know i diddnt pay near that much for my car, and with a couple thousand in upgrades can hang with and take advantage of newer $30k+ sports cars. At the same time I think my 93 FD has more style than a brand new evo.

All said and done the evo is overrated in my eyes because its not worth its price tag for what it is. Im sure there are more people selling there evo to get their hands on a third gen rx7 then vice versa.

got_boost

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are you freakin retarded or what !??? WRC .... when the 2nd gen of rx7 came out , it killed a lot of cars in the RWD categories. i remember seeing a 1986 video on Pikes Peak Hill CLimb, and it raped everyything in its class. even tho the Audi that change Rally (beeing the 1st ever turbo car, & 1st ever AWD car to enter rally) the rx7 did freakin good for a car that was never intended to go off-road.

btw the RX7 (1st,2nd gen) have a lot of records in IMSA, and they have the record for the most cars ententered in IMSA history too.


and heres a "crappy" 1st gen N/A with 290 rwhp that destroys Corvettes, Porsches, Ferraris, Lambos... all on the track... and the guy wins the race.
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...6b3bcb25de.htm

...so choke on it buddy , instead of saying stupid **** with nothing to back it up !!