I got beat.... :(
 

raced a twin turbo g35 and a audi s4 last night. They were both putting down over 400whp. im only around 320. we all raced at the same time. went from like a 40 roll up to 130. they were pretty much even with eachother. They pulled me by 2 2.5 cars.

that's funny, your power to weight ratio should be a lot better than theres.

yeah but at the same time they also have 110+ hp than i do

but you weigh like 1k lbs less, how does that happen?

i have only seen ONE fast twin turbo 350z/g35 and ive seen alot of them. They are turds.


I remember the thread, where someone asked how much power it would take to be a c6z, and going to Google (your guy's drag strip) it said, with the power to weight, you would need 360hp i believe....i know it wasnt more than that,. so i am giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Now, if a 320 fd got beat by a turd of a g35, just think what a c6z would do!

OH NOES1!1111oneoneoenone1!!! GOOGLE HAS FAILED US!!!1!!1!111 NOOOOOOOOOOO :Kill1: :Kill1: :Kill1: :Kill1:

the kid with the g35 said his shit weighed 3500 lbs. my fd, with the sub and amp in the hatch with the spare tire, weighs about 3000.

Just like your a professional tuner and builder (taught from the best in the country)? :rlaugh:

Instead of using physics and the way the real world works, we should just consult with you because you have seen, built, and tuned everything.

damn, with that much power you should be able to beat a saleen s7 stage 3

Naaaa... Only an LS1 F-body with a couple of bolt ons could do that. They are touched by god you know.

As says google -

Infiniti G35 Coupe RWD V6 3485.5 lbs

that's with no one inside, and no TT kit, which is fucking heavy.

lol you just dont get it do you.

well maybe there is something wrong with the way my turbo's are working. my primary has seemed a little sluggish. and with the boost turned up, there is not a very smooth transition.

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?????????????

exactly.

This is from the other thread

The guy who started this thread is stock weight. Again you can not defy physics. If you cant prove your point just like in the other threads then why do you even bother. "you just dont get it" means nothing to me. I get it allright. I just see right through it. I think its the smell

doesnt torque have anything to do with racing? most piston engine cars have more than our rotary cars.

ls7's dont have that.

power to weight really dosint mean that much. look at drag bikes to drag cars.. the cars with the worse powet to weight kill the bikes...

on a side note every 100lbs is 10th of a sec... so if you have the same cars and take 1000lbs out of one of them it will be a sec faster in the 1/4 mile

that's funny.. now the power to weight ratio does not matter as much.......

dum poeple
 

:pow: I love how many internet mechanics there are out there, sometime I wish the literacy rate in the us was lower than it all ready is. :101384_l:

at least you get the props for honesty

06 r1 150hp (rear wheel) / 381lbs (dry) = 2.54 pounds per HP..... 1/4 mile 10.50 on a good day

big daddy dwayne gutridges...on DOT drag tire
93 trunk mustang 900hp (rear wheel) / 3000lbs (weight of his class cant be lighter) = 3.333333333 pounds per hp.....1/4 mile time 7.90

where is your power to weight department now :)

like i said power to weight dosent matter that much.. power to weight is not everything.... yes a lighter car with less HP can beat a heavy car with more power... but its not always the case

that is all i was sayin when i said it didint matter that much...

vehicle weight
engine power, and the details of the torque or horsepower curve
coefficient of friction of the tires on the track
aerodynamic drag
moment of inertia and frictional loss of moving parts
drivetrain gearing
shifting mechanisms
location of the vehicle's vertical and horizontal center of gravity
driver skill
^
All matter
http://www.stealth316.com/2-calc-hp-et-mph.htm

+1 its not just 1 thing out of the list he said

no crap it all matters... it's not THAT important according to other people posting on this board. e.g.: https://www.rx7club.com/racing-kills-lounge-10/streetported-s4-na-vs-2000-pontiac-trans-am-629803/

i just saw a recent uploaded vid on youtube of a s4, g35, and a fd..that didnt happen to be you did it AWD racer?


edit: heres the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGeEmP8_eFw

looks like it, good run.

Those modded s4's roll out.

lol! I was thinking the same thing :rofl:

Edit: it's hillarious how there are few people on here that are all butt hurt from previous threads. lol

lol the typical clowns that know jack shit are here. once again there will be no need for us to humilate any of you as u fools will do it on your own.

are u begging for a flame war with that comment. hmmm....not sure if this question is genuine or not. i doubt it.

in most cases its really quite simple 100 rwhp = 1k lbs. if u make 320 then the audi needs 420.

whats done to your car to make 320 rwhp? have u taken ur car to the track to get a trap speed? is your engine pulling good vacuum? does your engine have 100k miles on it? is the rest of the car in good mechanical shape?.....basically i am asking does ur car run right? it already sounds like it doesnt.

People these cars are 14 yrs old. not many run right these days and are owned by complete fast and furious jack asses that dont have a clue. get your car running right then race the thing if thats what u like to do.

i dont mean to flame ...well yes i do....are u a fuckign moron?
now we are gonna use a comparison of a bike vs a car to form educated conclusions. come on man lets keep it apples to apples here. or is your post a joke? power to weight is 99% of the comparison when talking about sports cars. hey i got an idea lets compare an astro van to a lotus elise. that will be very helpful in this discussion.
i have smoked dozens of cars on the street or track that make more rwhp then me. sometimes even 100rwhp more....yeah but weight is meaningless.

of course they "matter". but an educated person would say to what degree? power to weight is the largest component to determine a cars accleration potential. the others u listed certainly matter but not nearly as much as power to weight. now if u want to talk extremes like a box shaped vehicle or some sort of strange abnormal gearing then obivously the arguement could change. but lets talk real world...for crying outloud.

every car that me or my friends own from domestic to imports all run very close to what the physics dictate. this is real world with many many yrs of drag racing and having fun on the street experience.

despite getting your ass torn out for months on thsi forum u still choose to ignore reality. noone has ever said they dont matter...what smart people are twelling u is that they dont matter nearly not even a fraction as much as power to weight. aero is gonna give u hundreths of a second benefit in a street car. power to weight is gonna give u full seconds. please please dont bring up astro vans and bikes.

yeah i know another funny thing i was thinking about was how all the idiots use each other to feel "smart" or feel "accepted".

me? man car boats planes astro vans or lotus its the same math. is it not? it is not 99% if you think that you are a moron... its EVERYTHING its not just 1 thing.. i never said it didint matter i just said. "it didint matter that much". caz everything plays a roll in it.. other wise if it was only about or99% about power to weight bikes would always win... and is this true? no its not and if it is plz explane to me caz i guess im slow.....

Nah dude, P:W is all you need to know when looking at who's going to win a race. You're an IDIOT for thinking otherwise. God made power to weight for a reason, and that's so FD's could win races.

I love this board. It's the main reason I wake up in the morning. <3<3

What was the topic for this thread again?

yeah you are pretty much dumb in that statment.. last time i checked traction has alot to do with it also... lets say your car weighs 1800 lbs and makes 400hp but you have no traction witch means you are spinning. your power to weight didint help very much seen as you cant get the power to the ground. there are lots of cases like this.. also come down to driver (not every1 is a race car driver like you) power to weight didint help much when you missed 3rd and went to 5th... there is much much more to a car and racing then power to weight... power to weight dose play a roll in it.. like i said b4 im not saying it dosent matter. but its not as big of a roll as you think it is. its not even half of it

but sence you think it is such a big roll even the most importanet thing tell me why a bike with better power to weight will lose against a car with worse power to weight????? or why a turbo CRX making 600+ hp is a 10 sec car and a mustang making 500+ hp is a 9 sec car can you plz tell me why? the power to weight is better for the CRX....

Do you really think two cars with the proper sized tires starting from 40mph like the original poster are going to have a problem with static friction? I may agree with you and the bike but like sombody said before, compare apples to apples.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/horsepower2.htm

Do these 600+/ 500+ hp cars really exist? Because from a 40-130 mph the CRX is going to win.

mods that i have:
99 twin turbos
split second additional injector controller
2 additional 750cc injectors (mounted on greddy elbow)
Greddy profec 2 spec b boost controller
greddy elbow
greddy 2 row front mount intercooler
HKS racing suction intakes
koyo rad
b&m short shifter w/momo shift knob
all new vac lines and rad hoses
aluminum ast
m2 down pipe
megan racing midpipe
racing beat single tip cat back
aem uego wideband
autometer boost gauge
center 2pod gauge holder (goes where center speaker goes)
dimpled/slotted rotors
eibach lowering springs
koni yellow struts
RE rear toe links

the car ran a 12.6 @ 117 mph

ur a dummy. end of discussion for me.

we all knew that....u soprry ass son of a bitch.

it seems to me you are adding more factors into this then power to weight... like i said power to weight matter.. just not as much as you think it dose..other wise you

apples to apples we have a astro van and the lotus we talked about b4..just this time the astro van has work done to it and they both have the same power to weight..from what you said. they should both have the same out come witch is going to have the higher top speed? the lotus you know why aerodynamics the astro van is a flying brick... power to weight didint help at all in this situation did it? how come? caz power to weight is not everything!!!

did u graduate from grammar school? if u compare extremes or things out of the realm of reality u are going to arive at conclusions that are extreme or not realistic. thus people try to .....ah forget it man. this is basic shit..whats wriong with u?

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Nice comparison

Was that your car in the vid that was posted?

yup that was mine

117 moph is a nice trap

:bigthumb: thanks