FDNewbie...not as fast as he thinks
02-03-06, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
I also was making great power on twins at 15psi for two years. I never said it was not safe. I said the turbo efficency range is down at 12-13 psi. Read my post.
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02-03-06, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
18 psi is not making any more power than 15 psi. I think effeciency range is down around 12-13 psi on those stock twins. I ran 15psi for a couple of years under the dillusion it was making a big difference just like you are doing now.
If you want to go faster, do it right. Get a real turbo with the fuel, ignition and tuning to take advantage of it.
If you want to go faster, do it right. Get a real turbo with the fuel, ignition and tuning to take advantage of it.
02-03-06, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by G's 3rd Gen
15 psi has been proven optimum for the stockers by people on here. Your not gonna get 80000 miles out of them but what the hell?! I dont know any single getting that much life either. Again I like single. Just making the most w/ what I got. G
02-03-06, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by G's 3rd Gen
15 psi has been proven optimum for the stockers by people on here. Your not gonna get 80000 miles out of them but what the hell?! I dont know any single getting that much life either. Again I like single. Just making the most w/ what I got. G
i am not knocking single turbos either just saying the twins can make good power. i will end up single at some point. Maybe when the engine breaks.
02-03-06, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
i been running 15psi for 4 yrs. no problems and the car still traps 118mph.
i am not knocking single turbos either just saying the twins can make good power. i will end up single at some point. Maybe when the engine breaks.
i am not knocking single turbos either just saying the twins can make good power. i will end up single at some point. Maybe when the engine breaks.
02-03-06, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 7THSIGN
You guys have to remember that my car’s ECU was in safe mode and timing was retarded. I was not making nearly as much power as I should have been.
02-03-06, 11:01 PM
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Seeing as how this thread turned into a debate on stock twins and boost levels, I thought this was an interesting quote to throw into the mix:
Originally Posted by RETed
The stock FD twins are CRAP.
The power delivery from the twins are CRAP.
Why do so many FD owners go single?
Cause the stock twins are CRAP.
As for KDR, they are a bunch of morons with their Anti-Detonation Device" that they charged HUNDREDS for to band-aid poor tuning.
-Ted
The power delivery from the twins are CRAP.
Why do so many FD owners go single?
Cause the stock twins are CRAP.
As for KDR, they are a bunch of morons with their Anti-Detonation Device" that they charged HUNDREDS for to band-aid poor tuning.
-Ted
02-04-06, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
So a local friend of mine came over tonight w/ his friend, who's got a BEAUTIFUL '97 Supra TT manual, BPU, running 17psi. Not sure what all the mods are, but I know he's got the HKS titanium exhaust, so it's safe to say he went all out w/ the rest of the mods too 
That is the lowest "stage" of modification. He doesn't have that much done to his car at all...just hope he doesn't mod his car any more by the time your car is finished, the supra only gets much strong after BPU.
"There is always someone faster."
02-04-06, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
u need to turn up the boost, atleast 15psi.
Ramy already posted he was hitting a little over 15 psi that night so he got beat while he WAS running 15psi.
I like the pics of the car Ramy, tastefully done. Is that the fastpac hood? If so, how much work did they have to do to make it fit that well? The lines around the entire hood look great.
Tim
02-04-06, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SkEltAh
Its too cold 
Cold roads+ cold tires + high speeds = dead sportbike rider.
And really im just busting your *****. I'd never run this thing flat out on the street..
Theres just something about keeping all my body parts attached :P I've had it up to around 130 (indicated) and even that was little too scary.
Cold roads+ cold tires + high speeds = dead sportbike rider.
And really im just busting your *****. I'd never run this thing flat out on the street..
Theres just something about keeping all my body parts attached :P I've had it up to around 130 (indicated) and even that was little too scary.
I know bikes in their very nature (nothing between you and the ground) are very dangerous, but how likely is someone to lose control and fall/crash at higher speeds in bikes? I - not being a bike guy - never got the sense that it's THAT dangerous, prob cuz every sports bike I see, the guy's gunning it at 100+ haha
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
oh, and this:
Oh and I for one don't think the stock twins are crap. I think they're freakin AMAZING. And if you put them in context of their time (late '92), to be able to pull SO FREAKIN HARD while crusing in FIFTH GEAR on the highway... heck, I FLY by cars which are actually accelerating at only 2 or 3 psi in 5th on the highway. The twins are a work of genius IMHO. It's just a shame it's taken this long for a set of new, upgraded twins to come out. But from your dyno runs, it sure was worth the wait!!
Originally Posted by Romancer
BPU= Basic Performance Upgrades
That is the lowest "stage" of modification. He doesn't have that much done to his car at all...just hope he doesn't mod his car any more by the time your car is finished, the supra only gets much strong after BPU.
"There is always someone faster."
That is the lowest "stage" of modification. He doesn't have that much done to his car at all...just hope he doesn't mod his car any more by the time your car is finished, the supra only gets much strong after BPU.
"There is always someone faster."
HKS Titanium Exhaust
3.5inch Down Pipe
HKS Intake
Greddy 4 row Intercooler
MBC set @ 17-18psi
Greddy BCC
Boost gauge
TTC
That's quite a bit IMO. Intake and freeflow exhaust, serious IC, and boosting 18psi, which is prob very comparable to the BNR Stage III's at 17 - 18 psi (which, Rich hit 420rwhp w/). That's a LOT of power. Just because Supra's don't NEED as many mods as we do, doesn't mean he hasn't increased his performance from stock by quite a bit. I'm sure that's a LOT faster than stock.
We only change the ECU and upgrade the fuel system because we NEED to. If the Supra doesn't need to, but ups the boost and runs a LOT faster than stock, that's still a serious upgrade from stock, even if it takes very little parts to do so. Or at least that's how I look at it.
BTW, what's BCC and TTC?
Originally Posted by Tim Benton
Ramy already posted he was hitting a little over 15 psi that night so he got beat while he WAS running 15psi.
I like the pics of the car Ramy, tastefully done. Is that the fastpac hood? If so, how much work did they have to do to make it fit that well? The lines around the entire hood look great.
Tim
Tim
The hood, I forget the original company in Japan that made that hood, but the one I have is a replica made by VIS. It fit very well, but the lines in my FD only tell half the story. My body guy is one of the very best in the entire region, and he spent hundreds of hours on my car (from September to February... 2 years ago) making sure fitment was PERFECT and all the lines match up exactly. He's expensive, but IMO, it's in the details that ya shine
Oh and yea, the paint scheme on the hood is custom...we toyed w/ a few ideas... I dunno if you can see, but the vent itself is also painted black. And OMG that hood took FOREVER to finish. It's got prob about 18 layers of paint on it. Lots of clearcoat, the black paint, then clearcoating everything many times over so you can't feel a line between the black paint and the clearcoat
Again, it's in the details ~Ramy
PS: I just finished up w/ Horseless Carriage...my car's gone
02-04-06, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
HKS Titanium Exhaust
3.5inch Down Pipe
HKS Intake
Greddy 4 row Intercooler
MBC set @ 17-18psi
Greddy BCC
Boost gauge
TTC
BTW, what's BCC and TTC?
BCC= Boost Cut Controller
TTC= True Twin mode I think, means both turbos boost together, kind of like non-sequential with FD's.
Oh, and if I had to guess, he is in the 425 whp range.
02-04-06, 05:15 PM
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LOL, Matty, hey man if you want to argue about how great 15psi is over 12-13 psi is knock yourself out. Like I already said. I ran 15psi on a street port for a long time too. I know it's relatively fast. I personally dont think that it is a huge difference over 13 psi. I also posted some dyno sheets to showcase exactly what I posted. You have yet to do anything other than make claims and speak in "general" terms. So whatever makes you feel better is fine with me.
That all being said I have been on that boat and I too used to be "all about" 15psi. So what can I say other than I am much more happy with my car now than I was with twins running 15psi.
Happy rotoring.
That all being said I have been on that boat and I too used to be "all about" 15psi. So what can I say other than I am much more happy with my car now than I was with twins running 15psi.
Happy rotoring.
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02-04-06, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
It's cool man
I know bikes in their very nature (nothing between you and the ground) are very dangerous, but how likely is someone to lose control and fall/crash at higher speeds in bikes? I - not being a bike guy - never got the sense that it's THAT dangerous, prob cuz every sports bike I see, the guy's gunning it at 100+ haha
I know bikes in their very nature (nothing between you and the ground) are very dangerous, but how likely is someone to lose control and fall/crash at higher speeds in bikes? I - not being a bike guy - never got the sense that it's THAT dangerous, prob cuz every sports bike I see, the guy's gunning it at 100+ haha
Speed isnt really what scares me on the bike.. Its the other drivers, potholes, oil spots, dead animals, guard rails etc that do. And at 130+ mph, they tend to come up pretty quick.
Come to a Fudruckers meeting this spring and we'll go for a little spin.
02-05-06, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rotorsownyou7
BCC= Boost Cut Controller
TTC= True Twin mode I think, means both turbos boost together, kind of like non-sequential with FD's.
TTC= True Twin mode I think, means both turbos boost together, kind of like non-sequential with FD's.
02-07-06, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
SkEltAh, you didn't need to show me a pic...I anticipated it I mean...it's not so much an issue of disagreement here. I KNOW what happened...your opinion (while respected) doesn't change the facts.
I would be up your way in a heartbeat, but as I mentioned earlier, the car's leaving tomarrow to Gotham, and I'm leaving very early Sunday morning...so no dice. Unless you're gonna come down here tonight...
I mean...it's not so much an issue of disagreement here. I KNOW what happened...your opinion (while respected) doesn't change the facts.I would be up your way in a heartbeat, but as I mentioned earlier, the car's leaving tomarrow to Gotham, and I'm leaving very early Sunday morning...so no dice. Unless you're gonna come down here tonight...
Secondly I'm just perplexed by the fact of you racing a Supra in general. Last I saw your car it had some serious issues across the board, dunno maybe you've gotten some fixed but it doesn't sound like it if it's on the way to Gotham now...
Originally Posted by SkEltAh
Come to a Fudruckers meeting this spring and we'll go for a little spin.
02-07-06, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jsplit
Ramy there's no way your car would beat a GSXR going full out, sorry :\
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As for the Supra race, cant wait to see some vids when the FD is back and faster
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02-08-06, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SkEltAh
Bikes are inherintley stable at speed and really only get more so given perfect conditions.
Speed isnt really what scares me on the bike.. Its the other drivers, potholes, oil spots, dead animals, guard rails etc that do. And at 130+ mph, they tend to come up pretty quick.
Speed isnt really what scares me on the bike.. Its the other drivers, potholes, oil spots, dead animals, guard rails etc that do. And at 130+ mph, they tend to come up pretty quick.
Come to a Fudruckers meeting this spring and we'll go for a little spin.
Originally Posted by jsplit
Ramy there's no way your car would beat a GSXR going full out, sorry :\
Secondly I'm just perplexed by the fact of you racing a Supra in general. Last I saw your car it had some serious issues across the board, dunno maybe you've gotten some fixed but it doesn't sound like it if it's on the way to Gotham now...
If this ever happens and he comes up to race please let me know so I can video this beat down.
Secondly I'm just perplexed by the fact of you racing a Supra in general. Last I saw your car it had some serious issues across the board, dunno maybe you've gotten some fixed but it doesn't sound like it if it's on the way to Gotham now...
If this ever happens and he comes up to race please let me know so I can video this beat down.
Oh and I dunno about other guys, but I don't dream up kills then come and tell 'em here. What happened happened, and that's that. And again, I've never lost a race until now, so why would I hesitate to take on a Supra?
~Ramy
02-08-06, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
I feel you...
Oh nice...I'll def. take you up on that!
Jon, I dunno what you're referring to. Running lean on a low compression motor that I don't care about isn't a problem. And other than a dying battery and a clutch switch that was replaced, my car was running FLAWLESSLY.
Oh nice...I'll def. take you up on that!
Jon, I dunno what you're referring to. Running lean on a low compression motor that I don't care about isn't a problem. And other than a dying battery and a clutch switch that was replaced, my car was running FLAWLESSLY.
Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Oh and I dunno about other guys, but I don't dream up kills then come and tell 'em here. What happened happened, and that's that. And again, I've never lost a race until now, so why would I hesitate to take on a Supra?
~Ramy
~Ramy
02-08-06, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jsplit
forgot about your idle
By the time your car gets back I'll most likely have a Supra for you to race
By the time your car gets back I'll most likely have a Supra for you to race
