FD vs turbo CRX
FD vs turbo CRX
I drove past a red CRX i think it had a black hood. And he came up next to me and down shifted, and what do i hear but the beatiful whistle of a turbo spooling followed by a loud BOV.
I too downshifted and we both gunned it from 2ng gear I heard his turbo screaming and his tires spinning as i walked away through 2nd. I spun too but obviously not as bad. We lined up again and this time i goosed it to get him to go first and he does so i follow, again i walked away through 2 and shifted to 3rd and continued for another sec or two then shut down. Not sure how far ahead i was but we didn't take it too high maybe 70-80 mph.
we then pulled into a parking lot and he told me he was running a b16turbo(don't know the size)@ 15psi(seemed kinds high) and i think he said he made about 300 at the flywheel but i couldn't hear too well so i might be mistaken. I did hear him say he has ran a 13.0 @ 110.
The car was a bit beat up but it ran pretty good.
Oh yea he also said he burnt his clutch racing me also. It was fun and the CRX owner turned out to be a cool guy.
I too downshifted and we both gunned it from 2ng gear I heard his turbo screaming and his tires spinning as i walked away through 2nd. I spun too but obviously not as bad. We lined up again and this time i goosed it to get him to go first and he does so i follow, again i walked away through 2 and shifted to 3rd and continued for another sec or two then shut down. Not sure how far ahead i was but we didn't take it too high maybe 70-80 mph.
we then pulled into a parking lot and he told me he was running a b16turbo(don't know the size)@ 15psi(seemed kinds high) and i think he said he made about 300 at the flywheel but i couldn't hear too well so i might be mistaken. I did hear him say he has ran a 13.0 @ 110.
The car was a bit beat up but it ran pretty good.
Oh yea he also said he burnt his clutch racing me also. It was fun and the CRX owner turned out to be a cool guy.
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Sweet dude. Aaron, the guy riding with him is a regular on the Rendezvous forum. He basically said the same thing. It's always fun to see what some of these guys come up with...That little red turbo civic with no IC would be a fun daily driver too.
Cool. do you know what turbo the guy was running. And was it on a stock motor? Yea, you never know what you are gonna come across on the street. Are you talking about the red turbo civic with the black guy driving? If so he does have an intercooler it is oem from some other vehicle though and it is mounted kinda like our oil coolers. Very slick sleeper.
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No, don't know but Aaron (LS1FC3S) on Rendezvous knows. He posted something over there about it a couple days ago.
Man, you need to call me up when you go cruizin for trouble. I need to drive my car more.
Man, you need to call me up when you go cruizin for trouble. I need to drive my car more.
Will do. If weather permits next weekend i'll give you a call. I need to get some more avgas though. The last time I went up to the airport by riverside I had just left My reserve center and still had my uniform on. When I walked in everyone was in a rush to help me and and get me taken care off. and after they filled my 5 gal gas can up I went back in to pay and the guy said it was on the house. I may have to wear my uniform more often up there lol.
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Originally Posted by O 16581 72452 5
13.0 sounds kind of slow for 300hp in a CRX unless he's on street tires. Guys are pulling off high 11s on slicks with 400lb heavier cars and 300whp.
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Originally Posted by ProjectD
I said he made 300 "flywheel" hp. And I asume he was on some sort of street"legal" tire.
Damn you caught me. it was really an all motor CRX and he pulled 3 cars on me. 
it's really no big deal but if it bugs you that much then just asume the the only reason he is that slow is bc he was on street tires...like you already said.
BTW, I was wandering if would you would post in here. I've noticed you have a habbit of educating people about what hondas can do in the kills section.
it's really no big deal but if it bugs you that much then just asume the the only reason he is that slow is bc he was on street tires...like you already said. BTW, I was wandering if would you would post in here. I've noticed you have a habbit of educating people about what hondas can do in the kills section.
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Not really, i just read the kills and the Honda ones are what interest me for obvious reasons.
I'm not calling BS on you, i don't doubt you pulled him, it's just that the things he said aren't adding up. If he pulled a 13 flat on street tires, what he does from a roll should reflect what a low to mid 12 second RWD car can do on street tires, and 15psi on a B16 doesn't make sense, i'd figure if he had internals, he'd mention them, and if he did, like i said, why would he only be pushing 300hp at 15psi? I don't think your car is capable of low 12s with your mods, but if you pulled him like that, that's what you should be at according to what he said. I don't know much about redneck racing, so i don't know what trap speeds should be on slicks vs street tires.
Then again, he "burnt his clutch", so *shrug*, i don't know about you, but i didn't race when my clutch was going out, well, except for this Cavalier that wanted a piece, haha. :P
I'm not calling BS on you, i don't doubt you pulled him, it's just that the things he said aren't adding up. If he pulled a 13 flat on street tires, what he does from a roll should reflect what a low to mid 12 second RWD car can do on street tires, and 15psi on a B16 doesn't make sense, i'd figure if he had internals, he'd mention them, and if he did, like i said, why would he only be pushing 300hp at 15psi? I don't think your car is capable of low 12s with your mods, but if you pulled him like that, that's what you should be at according to what he said. I don't know much about redneck racing, so i don't know what trap speeds should be on slicks vs street tires.
Then again, he "burnt his clutch", so *shrug*, i don't know about you, but i didn't race when my clutch was going out, well, except for this Cavalier that wanted a piece, haha. :P
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From: south bend indiana
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sounds like you dont have experience with high hp super light fwd cars.
i went from high 14's/ low 15's on streets to high 12's on slicks in my turbo omni, no other changes aside from traction
look at his time and trap, a 13.0 at 110 is retarded and obviously a 2.5 60' run, it only takes 103 or so in most hard launching cars to break 12's
sounds reasonable enough to me. 300hp is just enough with a perfect run for 11's in a 2400lb w/ driver omni.
sounds like you dont have experience with high hp super light fwd cars.
i went from high 14's/ low 15's on streets to high 12's on slicks in my turbo omni, no other changes aside from traction
look at his time and trap, a 13.0 at 110 is retarded and obviously a 2.5 60' run, it only takes 103 or so in most hard launching cars to break 12's
sounds reasonable enough to me. 300hp is just enough with a perfect run for 11's in a 2400lb w/ driver omni.
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"walk softly and carry a big stick" I dont know who said it but it means something important. take directfreak for example normal looking 7 but a sick powerplant under the hood, hence the big stick. most guys (that actually have something) dont tell you every little detail like most ricers do.
I raced a CRX with the 8 valve head, you know the slow ones. after I raced him he followed me to a mcdonalds and insisted on asking what I had. He told me what ******* interior mods he had done.... JEEZUS when you race what does it matter..... I dont even talk to people about what I've done, unless they know what a rotary is. but thats because I have to then explain WTF a rotary is.....
So what I'm saying is, maybe he did have a built bottom end, maybe he didnt. Im guessing he did. If you know how to install a turbo (and afford it...) then I hope to god you know how to work on engines. but he could have been totally full of dogshit maybe he was running 8 psi? 10, 12? who knows...... a kill is a kill and thats a good kill
Originally Posted by O 16581 72452 5
Not really, i just read the kills and the Honda ones are what interest me for obvious reasons.
I'm not calling BS on you, i don't doubt you pulled him, it's just that the things he said aren't adding up. If he pulled a 13 flat on street tires, what he does from a roll should reflect what a low to mid 12 second RWD car can do on street tires, and 15psi on a B16 doesn't make sense, i'd figure if he had internals, he'd mention them, and if he did, like i said, why would he only be pushing 300hp at 15psi? I don't think your car is capable of low 12s with your mods, but if you pulled him like that, that's what you should be at according to what he said. I don't know much about redneck racing, so i don't know what trap speeds should be on slicks vs street tires.
I'm not calling BS on you, i don't doubt you pulled him, it's just that the things he said aren't adding up. If he pulled a 13 flat on street tires, what he does from a roll should reflect what a low to mid 12 second RWD car can do on street tires, and 15psi on a B16 doesn't make sense, i'd figure if he had internals, he'd mention them, and if he did, like i said, why would he only be pushing 300hp at 15psi? I don't think your car is capable of low 12s with your mods, but if you pulled him like that, that's what you should be at according to what he said. I don't know much about redneck racing, so i don't know what trap speeds should be on slicks vs street tires.
I raced a CRX with the 8 valve head, you know the slow ones. after I raced him he followed me to a mcdonalds and insisted on asking what I had. He told me what ******* interior mods he had done.... JEEZUS when you race what does it matter..... I dont even talk to people about what I've done, unless they know what a rotary is. but thats because I have to then explain WTF a rotary is.....
So what I'm saying is, maybe he did have a built bottom end, maybe he didnt. Im guessing he did. If you know how to install a turbo (and afford it...) then I hope to god you know how to work on engines. but he could have been totally full of dogshit maybe he was running 8 psi? 10, 12? who knows...... a kill is a kill and thats a good kill
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May I???
has anyone thought about gearing? that makes a bit of difference...
Traction plays a big roll too. If he had hooked he might have been right at your door or maybe even beat you. Similar thing happened to me. Kept loosing traction and gave off the impression that i was simply gettin beat. Got good traction and ended up running away easily...
Also, I'm not a Honda fan but I know a lot of people that are and gotta say...some of them are pretty quick all motor. I ran a hatch and although i beat it easily its still did better than a lot of turbo cars out there. Dont know if its the driver or a good motor but its most likely both. Hell, I've even seen him take down turbo integras with over 300fwhp...same as that kid though, spinning all the way through 4th or so.
has anyone thought about gearing? that makes a bit of difference...
Traction plays a big roll too. If he had hooked he might have been right at your door or maybe even beat you. Similar thing happened to me. Kept loosing traction and gave off the impression that i was simply gettin beat. Got good traction and ended up running away easily...
Also, I'm not a Honda fan but I know a lot of people that are and gotta say...some of them are pretty quick all motor. I ran a hatch and although i beat it easily its still did better than a lot of turbo cars out there. Dont know if its the driver or a good motor but its most likely both. Hell, I've even seen him take down turbo integras with over 300fwhp...same as that kid though, spinning all the way through 4th or so.
The trick to making good power in a FWD car is not too much power ! Its something I was taught by my friends with turbo'd rides. Its diffucult to get traction with most street tires so the right amount of HP is needed. The fastest I've seen run 275-300HP and great times.
Also keep in mind that person hasn't gone to a dyno or anything, it's like me saying my car has 300HP but without proof, it doesn't mean much. Just a FYI.
! Its something I was taught by my friends with turbo'd rides. Its diffucult to get traction with most street tires so the right amount of HP is needed. The fastest I've seen run 275-300HP and great times.Also keep in mind that person hasn't gone to a dyno or anything, it's like me saying my car has 300HP but without proof, it doesn't mean much. Just a FYI.
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Originally Posted by LokiRx7.1
..."walk softly and carry a big stick" I dont know who said it but it means something important...
Thought it was "speak softly and carry a big stick", and Theodore Roosevelt said it.
junkyard turbo
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From: south bend indiana
the key to going fast in a fwd is tires and suspension. i lost 2 full seconds with just a set of slicks
a few more suspensioon mods would drop another couple tenths off because i can still blow my slicks off easily enough
damn 2200lb omni!
a few more suspensioon mods would drop another couple tenths off because i can still blow my slicks off easily enough
damn 2200lb omni!
Originally Posted by rotary7eaven
Thought it was "speak softly and carry a big stick", and Theodore Roosevelt said it.
but I beleive you are correct and thank you for the correction
Originally Posted by dumpsterdriver
the key to going fast in a fwd is tires and suspension. i lost 2 full seconds with just a set of slicks
a few more suspensioon mods would drop another couple tenths off because i can still blow my slicks off easily enough
damn 2200lb omni!
a few more suspensioon mods would drop another couple tenths off because i can still blow my slicks off easily enough
damn 2200lb omni!
I forgot to say that, thank you Mr. Dumpster.
junkyard turbo
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i know way too much about tractionless fwd.
a super light car that makes most all its torque by 2200rpms will force anyone to become an expert real quick heh.. wish they would have made omnis awd.. that would be badass
a super light car that makes most all its torque by 2200rpms will force anyone to become an expert real quick heh.. wish they would have made omnis awd.. that would be badass
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Originally Posted by O 16581 72452 5
Not really, i just read the kills and the Honda ones are what interest me for obvious reasons.
I\'m not calling BS on you, i don\'t doubt you pulled him, it\'s just that the things he said aren\'t adding up. If he pulled a 13 flat on street tires, what he does from a roll should reflect what a low to mid 12 second RWD car can do on street tires, and 15psi on a B16 doesn\'t make sense, i\'d figure if he had internals, he\'d mention them, and if he did, like i said, why would he only be pushing 300hp at 15psi? I don\'t think your car is capable of low 12s with your mods, but if you pulled him like that, that\'s what you should be at according to what he said. I don\'t know much about redneck racing, so i don\'t know what trap speeds should be on slicks vs street tires.
Then again, he \"burnt his clutch\", so *shrug*, i don\'t know about you, but i didn\'t race when my clutch was going out, well, except for this Cavalier that wanted a piece, haha. :P
I\'m not calling BS on you, i don\'t doubt you pulled him, it\'s just that the things he said aren\'t adding up. If he pulled a 13 flat on street tires, what he does from a roll should reflect what a low to mid 12 second RWD car can do on street tires, and 15psi on a B16 doesn\'t make sense, i\'d figure if he had internals, he\'d mention them, and if he did, like i said, why would he only be pushing 300hp at 15psi? I don\'t think your car is capable of low 12s with your mods, but if you pulled him like that, that\'s what you should be at according to what he said. I don\'t know much about redneck racing, so i don\'t know what trap speeds should be on slicks vs street tires.
Then again, he \"burnt his clutch\", so *shrug*, i don\'t know about you, but i didn\'t race when my clutch was going out, well, except for this Cavalier that wanted a piece, haha. :P
you know most guys say the trapspeed is the greatest indicator of actual horsepower. my buddy has a stage 3 srt4 and ran a 15.2 at 104mph. its all about traction, and a light fwd car doesnt really get traction. so that would probably explain his 13.0 second quarter mile. so shut and stop trying to rain on the guys kill, civic lover
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Originally Posted by O 16581 72452 5
Not really, i just read the kills and the Honda ones are what interest me for obvious reasons.
I'm not calling BS on you, i don't doubt you pulled him, it's just that the things he said aren't adding up. If he pulled a 13 flat on street tires, what he does from a roll should reflect what a low to mid 12 second RWD car can do on street tires, and 15psi on a B16 doesn't make sense, i'd figure if he had internals, he'd mention them, and if he did, like i said, why would he only be pushing 300hp at 15psi? I don't think your car is capable of low 12s with your mods, but if you pulled him like that, that's what you should be at according to what he said. I don't know much about redneck racing, so i don't know what trap speeds should be on slicks vs street tires.
Then again, he "burnt his clutch", so *shrug*, i don't know about you, but i didn't race when my clutch was going out, well, except for this Cavalier that wanted a piece, haha. :P
I'm not calling BS on you, i don't doubt you pulled him, it's just that the things he said aren't adding up. If he pulled a 13 flat on street tires, what he does from a roll should reflect what a low to mid 12 second RWD car can do on street tires, and 15psi on a B16 doesn't make sense, i'd figure if he had internals, he'd mention them, and if he did, like i said, why would he only be pushing 300hp at 15psi? I don't think your car is capable of low 12s with your mods, but if you pulled him like that, that's what you should be at according to what he said. I don't know much about redneck racing, so i don't know what trap speeds should be on slicks vs street tires.
Then again, he "burnt his clutch", so *shrug*, i don't know about you, but i didn't race when my clutch was going out, well, except for this Cavalier that wanted a piece, haha. :P
Here's a Honda kill for you then: https://www.rx7club.com/racing-kills-lounge-10/just-wow-506183/
Pretty much sums up why I refuse to own one, and why ricers who drive Hondas are absolute tards.
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Originally Posted by ProjectD
I drove past a red CRX i think it had a black hood. And he came up next to me and down shifted, and what do i hear but the beatiful whistle of a turbo spooling followed by a loud BOV.
I too downshifted and we both gunned it from 2ng gear I heard his turbo screaming and his tires spinning as i walked away through 2nd. I spun too but obviously not as bad. We lined up again and this time i goosed it to get him to go first and he does so i follow, again i walked away through 2 and shifted to 3rd and continued for another sec or two then shut down. Not sure how far ahead i was but we didn't take it too high maybe 70-80 mph.
we then pulled into a parking lot and he told me he was running a b16turbo(don't know the size)@ 15psi(seemed kinds high) and i think he said he made about 300 at the flywheel but i couldn't hear too well so i might be mistaken. I did hear him say he has ran a 13.0 @ 110.
The car was a bit beat up but it ran pretty good.
Oh yea he also said he burnt his clutch racing me also. It was fun and the CRX owner turned out to be a cool guy.
I too downshifted and we both gunned it from 2ng gear I heard his turbo screaming and his tires spinning as i walked away through 2nd. I spun too but obviously not as bad. We lined up again and this time i goosed it to get him to go first and he does so i follow, again i walked away through 2 and shifted to 3rd and continued for another sec or two then shut down. Not sure how far ahead i was but we didn't take it too high maybe 70-80 mph.
we then pulled into a parking lot and he told me he was running a b16turbo(don't know the size)@ 15psi(seemed kinds high) and i think he said he made about 300 at the flywheel but i couldn't hear too well so i might be mistaken. I did hear him say he has ran a 13.0 @ 110.
The car was a bit beat up but it ran pretty good.
Oh yea he also said he burnt his clutch racing me also. It was fun and the CRX owner turned out to be a cool guy.