cool_as_crap

ka-t is a lot more powerful than an sr. slightly more hp, but ton of torque. thats what i would prefer over the sr in a 240. plus the block is verrrry strong

DoriFCto

my cousin just dropped a rb into his 240 and it has big potential. He's got all the bolt on stuff, etc. but still dissappointed me. Once I get into the higher rpms in 3rd, it was all over. Still if he upgraded his turbo, more boost and tune...it would definatly be a different story.

Ocula

I could not aggree more with you. Lets see here a 2.4l vs 2.0l both same turbo setup. not only will the ka-t win it will last longer and is much cheaper than a sr20 swap even if you use the same turbo,mani and downpipe thats on the sr20. My buddy has a almost complete ka-t kit and he paid only 800 for it he only needed a cluch and some ghaskets. visit ka-t.org and marvel over the ka-t. No offense but **** sr20s and there fanboy bullshit. No hard feelings to you sr20 owners just how i feel. as far as RB still fanboy but atleast its badass.

fcrotornut

it all depends what you want.

if you want mid end and top end power, or low end torque, you wont the mid and top end, go with the sr (thats why i did)

you want low and mid's go with the ka-t, 2 different setups that each have their weaknesses.

being around a local 240 scene, theres VERRY few sr20's and quite a few of ka-t setups.

i like having something out of the ordinary on a local scale, thats why i bought an s13 coupe and an sr20det. its not a combination you see around where i live.

and in town its alot of highway racing that goes on so i wanted a good highway car.

the only people around here with 240's are all drift fanboys anyway, im not really into the whole drift thing.

to each their own i guess.


also , **** people that bash cars that they have no personal hands on build time or drive time

sorry buddy. just my .02 cents.

mr2d2

The SR really isn't that great of a motor... They come with like cardboard headgaskets and if you're planning on running "600hp" plan on building the hell out of the motor lol... I'd just build the KA... Much more torque.As far as it being the best 2.0L motor... 3S-GTE > SR20.... Damn I want an fd though... ^_^

fcrotornut

the thing about an sr20 is the fact that you dotn NEED 600 horses to be fast as hell, keep in mind the power to weight ratio.

obviously you have owned an sr20det powered s13 and its OBVIOUSLY a shitty engine because of your god like oppinion.

why is it the people always **** on things that they dont have personal expereince with?

we all know how important torque is, you know thats why we all love the rotary, for its insane torque, but if i wanted assloads of torque i would have bought something domestic. you come off like one of the retarded drift fanboys who only cares about low end power.

GtoRx7

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My opinion of the strongest, best 4 clyinders out there-

1) GM Ecotec (unfortunately)
2) 4g63
3) Sr20det
4) K20
5) F20
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10) 3S-Gte

Naegleria_Fowleri

Feel free to underestimate the 12a as well. lol

fcrotornut

lol, 12a's are great, i almost wish i never got a gsl-se and just found a nice gsl to do a blowthrough turbo setup on.

anyone who talks down on sr20dets clearly dont know much, there is alot of potential for power and reliabilty, they take verry well to being built and you dont need a whole lot of power to make them fast due to the light weight of the 240.

it always seems like the only people that want to build the ka are the kids that dont care about anything other then low end power, watching a 388rwhp sr20det s13 coupe just utterly destroy an sl55 amg from a roll made me want my setup. you kids can have fun with that stoplight to stoplight racing, i will save my no torque having fun for the supra's and other highway monsters.

i know sr20's can be a slouch from a stop, but lets face it, everyone builds their cars to suit their style of driving, im not the type of idiot to go racing from a stoplight in the middle of town, so ive got no need for that low end torque.

my car will see highway runs and the roadcourse at motorsport ranch and thats about it.

ErnieT

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About the most ingnorant, uninformed comment I've read yet. The SR20 is an extremely potant power plant. Mark Muzoraowski is tearing up the NHRA street class running consistant 9.20@150+mph....all on a SR20. The motor is VERY capable.

fcrotornut

thanks you ernie, somone that actually knows what he is talking about before he opens his mouth is a rare thing to see these days

NeedFD

dont underestimate the sohc d15

kapono

My friend owns an sr20 powered S-14 and is running a T04S with the other obvious mods (power FC, upgraded fuel system, etc...ginormous intercooler) and is pushing 500 rear wheel. He is going to change the turbine setup soon and hopes to be at 600 rear wheel. I have to agree with you, these motors are insane and are far more dependable our rotaries...especially after modding. I would still lay money on any rotary because of its efficiency with power, but would not be dumb enough to turn a blind eye to the SR guys.

But dude...easy on the drifters O.K.?

KeloidJonesJr.

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Don't get me wrong, but the stock KA24's have nice low end power. Just not alot of aftermarket support comparted to the SR20 cause it's used in Japan in the S chasis.
btw why are you proud that you beat a 240? lol

fcrotornut

Lol, that was more or less aimed at the KA 240 kids, you know, the drift fanboys.

the ones that buy a beat up *** looking 240 and "drift" around empty parking lots and never go to events. for some reason they end up being the only ones that ive seen building ka's for their "insane torque!"

RX7Crazy_84

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nicee kill dude!! but sr20 is very capble engine, my buddy has sr20 in hes s14 hes pushing around 410 to the wheels and DAMN that thing is scary fast!!! i got an s14 as well but dont know if i want to put sr20 or built the KA

Evil Bastard

I just sold my RB25 powerd 240 for an FD.. itll be a fun car once you finish it..

ArmenMAxx

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my friend is currently thinking about either putting a RB26 or Sr20 in his 240. I think sr20 for money, and size issues.
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kapono

Its all good man. I hope those kids go away like parachute pants and never come back. They are really inflating the price for cars and parts since the ever famous FF 3 Tokyo drift came out (that movie is so insanely rediculous). It is nothing like that here in Japan! I have only seen the preview and can only imagine what the rest of the movie is like or worse yet, how the kids are trying to emulate it.

fcrotornut

yeah, the drift kids are idiots, (yes there are a difference between drifter and drift kids)

i plan on taking my car to a drift event in mineral wells for the fun of it, but the only "drifters" around here are the dumbass kids who like to do large donuts in parking lots and call it drifting.

i hat the fact that everytiem i drive my 240 around i get somone asking if i drift or if im in d1...

but in the same breath, its the same kids that will buy my sr20 240 for the 3k extra markup i plan on selling it for.

and that my friends will get me a t2 swapped fb down the road.

kapono

Look out for a friend of mine named Nelson Hernandez that just moved from here to there. He is a pretty good drifter and hopefully shows them what its all about if you say they suck.

fcrotornut

moved to where in tx?

the drift kids who dont do anything but go to empty parking lots suck, there are some great drifters around, but they like to stick to the events as well.

im just a fan that any motorsport belongs on a track and not in the streets.

Boostmaniac

Just to clarify, because some of these posts are chock full of comments that are stereo typing an engine, the KA24DE (and E) do provide tons of low end torque and no high end power. While this is usually the mainstay for this motor, I will not deny it.

but....

If you also like mid range torque and high RPM power you can also achieve this from the same lowly KA24DE (and E, just not so much). Nissan produced quite a few race motors for some race series that I can't remember right now. The redline was 8500 RPM and the car was tuned for top end power. While this is possible, it simply isn't feasible. The piston speeds alone are approaching retarded levels. But you CAN build a very street worthy KA if you want to. One of the saddest things for the stock KA are the cams. That car is literally cammed for low end power. If you get the right grind you'll lose a LOT of torque down low, but make a lot more mid range torque and high end power. This is perfect for a highway monster, especially since it has those extra .4 liters.

Just my .02.

P.S. All drift kids must die.

kapono

Yes, he will be moving to Abilene TX (stationed at Dyess AFB). It is great to hear that there are enthusiasts that take the sport seriously and practice it safely. I would hate to see this sport get too much negative attention because of the carefree idiots who choose to do it unsafely.

AlexG13B

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bit off topic but..........