is that a contradiction?

dead stock? from factory. i find that hard top beleive. maybe one out of 100k has done it....but who knows what was up on that run.

There are a lot of people running 12.8-9 from the factory. One of my buddies that has done that posts on this board and others done.

I'm sure you are on LS1 tech already and if you are, you should already know that people with only DR's and K&N filter are clipping 12.5-6 with a good driver.

He wants a rematch when I come back in May. He said he is going to be putting the bottle on. I will be running some C16 this time for sure...........

uh oh..

trap speed?

a halfbridge 42single could make 550rwhp easy. he is gonna need some serious 650plus rwhp on that juice.

That might be true but the best Phil managed at the track was high 12's at mid teens MPH. (No offense, Phil) :ylsuper:

If 550whp is so easy, why did he only put down 500 whp @ 22 psi ?

You must not have any fast LS1 cars where you're from. This is one of the locals that roam the streets every weekend. Just a LS1 with a small shot running 9.40's.

http://www.compcams.com/Base/Images/...006/Camaro.jpg

i shouldnt have said easy. but its pretty obvious that the guys that roam this board that run that turbo and are not afraid tocrank the boost are putting down someserious rwhp. u know that.

Right this is what i am gettting at. u have a ls1 with boltons which is probably really is a low maybe even mid 12 sec car thats able to keep up with a huge single halfbridge fd thats runnign some decent boost. I would think somethign is up with the fd and my guess is probably right since u just made clear he ran teens in the traps. so somethign def up. no offense to the owner. just my observations.

About ls1 in my area. shit of coruse there are some fast ones. all u need is nos and a cam and u make 500rwhp.

there is a lot of the 7 cant lose mentality in this thread hehe

it doesnt take much to make an ls1 fast as hell, they are incredibly nice engines, and much more consistant in their output than a high strung rotary

i believe the guy, they can easily be 11 sec cars with heads/cam.. if he had what he said he had and was spraying on top of it the only way that car would be running 11's is if the driver were clinically retarded


theres been a lot of 9 and 10 second f bodies around here. 11's are easy on stock cars sprayed and on slicks. they are just an extremely capable platform

Bone stock LS1 with only cam went 10.20's.

^ im calling heavy bull shit on that. bet his car was stripped with a 4 link, drag slicks, clutch, open headers, intake, and some other things they neglected to mention. bone stock to these guys is much different than what i view it as. what i view a bone stock car with a cam is this: literally a bone stock car off show room floor, and someone put a cam in it. nothing else at all. everything doen to the paper oem filter is completely 100% stock. and theres no physical way that car will do a 10.20.

I heard if you put hub caps on you will double the horsepower of your LS1

lol, a guy on this link: http://www.tremek.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13978 said:

"there are a few heads and cam only cars in low 10's...9's and so forth...it's all in the weight. those things come in at about 2600-2800lbs...and thay have huge cams. I mean you figure 370hp in 2600lbs...thats insane."

this is funny shit. that guy would probably think my car is slow as hell. i wieght in a tad over 2600lbs and make 385whp. no way in hell my car would run a 10 or 9 for that matter. alot of these ls1 guys are full of shit.

You don't have a clue, do you?

Stock engine LS1 with a cam and suspension/rear end bolt-ons running 10.20's. Full weight car.

It would take an RX7 with $1,380,310 in upgrades to do that.

http://www.bmrfabrication.com/FeatureCars/Rodney.htm

Here is local guy, Cam Only Ls1 car, 10.80's cam only

Cam only means full bolt on's and a cam with stock untouched heads and no power adders

If you can't believe this you probably won't beleive that there's stock internal cars (aka bolt-on only) running 10.90's :rlaugh:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346770

no i have a clue. that car is nowhere near stock like you said it was. that has alot more than jsut a cam in it. and whats this shit about an rx7 needed over 1 million dollars to run that?

Actually, no..... you don't have a clue.

Read my previous post, certain terms mean certain things. Maybe you should find out what a certain term means before talking trash.



You heard me.

Before you ask.....bolt on only = Stock internals motor, intake to oil pan, stock long block (as it came from GM).

You guys must be stuck in 1998. It truely amazing me how afterall these years there's still people that are completely ignorant when it comes to LS1's

My buddy, who also tunes my car, ran 10.1 @ 134.5 last month.

His setup- '01 ss(~3200lbs), rebuilt shortblock w/ forged pistons/rods (stock 346 ci), t- rex cam 24x/24x .62x lift, stock heads w/ upgraded valve springs, ported tb, cheap longtube headers, a 175 shot and lots of tuning. Oh and this is not some t-braked auto, this is with the factory t56 on 28" et streets:D He has backed it up with many 10.3ish passes with similiar mph as well. I think that is pretty impressive for what has be done to it.

Eric i wasnt bashing ls1's i was stating bone stock factory equiped camaro no free mods as there called, have run high 12's. But from working on quite a few ls1's there are tons of small changes that make good improvements. ARP rod bolts on stock blocks are almost a must. There is a lot of changes made to most that are not mentioned as mods. But the ls1 type motor is a very good platform to build on. and 130/150 60 ft times are very easy to achieve as its been tested and retested.

Alright, talked to Xavier today and he said I was prolly hitting low 10 AFRS because I had 118 sunoco mixed in my tank. I am not trying to make up any excuses for my shit time at the track but that was on 245 fuzions, with a good amount of breakup from my 9 plugs. This spring will be different. Also shooting for more than 22psi this time when Kan comes in Feb.

Here is a copy of the movie that you can download. It is much better quality too.

http://www.flyparadise.net/13bvsls1.mpg

riiight. terms like bone stock still says. bone freaking stock. what some people call it versus others can vary. that car is no where near what i would call bone stock. words mean different things in different regions or groups of people ass. Ever think of that? dont be such a prick.

You heard me.

dude, you have 500hp and only run 12.6?????