What are your lap times???
 

I searched this forum to see what other people are getting for lap times at the tracks that I have/do run and I'm surprised to see so very few posts with times.

Back a few years ago there were relatively few time trial opportunities, however, today there are many clubs that run time trials.... at least 5 that I can think of off hand. Are people (particulary 3rd gens) simply not interested in competing? DE is fun and all, but I couldn't imagine turning down the opportunity to (at least occasionally) test yourself against the clock. Particularly when our cars can really pick 'em up and put 'em down...

thoughts??

btw, it's been awhile since my car has been out of the garage (5+yrs) but here are some of my times...

NHIS N. Oval S. Chicane - 1:12:xx
NHIS N Chicane, S Chicane - 1:17:xx (no torque sucks)
Lime Rock - 1:01:xx
The Glen - 2:10:xx
Tremblant - ??? (soon find out w/ new config.)
Mosport - DNF (crash)
Summit - 1:24:xx
Road Atlanta - ~ low 1:40s (maybe dipped to high 30s) during DE
Sebring - have to check my old video
Thunderhill - can't recall
Buttonwillow - can't recall

I think there should be a compilation of lap times and car details as there is for dyno'd hp.

Lime Rock- 1:13.1 FD RX-7 Factory Twins 10 PSI
first time on the track.

Jeff

I am trying to get some slicks for the Mt Tremblant event......

Jack

Congrats... If you're not already, you should join COM & BMWCCA. Hope to see you @ the track...

I knew you couldn't stand pat with street rubber. Not that you need any, but, no excuses now!

What size?


btw, anyone interested in Tremblant on 8/3 - 8/4??? 8/3 is DE, 8/4 is morning track sessions (signed-off only) afternoon is time trials. From what I understand only 48 signed-up so far. There should be a ton of track time.

[QUOTE=No Cones]I knew you couldn't stand pat with street rubber. Not that you need any, but, no excuses now!

What size?

Damn...your right...no excuses...I'll have to ponder my options...

[QUOTE=Jack]Not going isn't one of your options...:)

Anyone else interested in Tremblant in early August? Any Canuck FDs out there?

[QUOTE=No Cones]Not going isn't one of your options...:)

I agree...

Thunderhill with the bypass 2:10.9
Infineon 1:56 I think, it's been a while.
Buttonwillow long course 2:18 or 19

thanks. im looking into joing BMWCCA and i want to do some schools and track days with COM.

It at all possible, I would STRONGLY recommend trying to make time for the Tremblant event in August. Fantastic track, fabulous setting, wonderful town, ~6hrs to get there (a little drawback), and a ton of track time. Not to mention that it will probably be pretty laid back with the event so sparsly attended.

The lack of posts answering the question of why people choose not to time trial is very revealing... What is more revealing is that there are more posts and more interest regarding an incredibly innane topic such as "which is better a mini or an FD".... Give me a f***ing break!

It seems much has changed since I last paid attention. Too many FD cream puffs for my taste...

Barber Motorsports Park - low 1:50s
Talladega Grand Prix - 1:12

These are in my back yard, hoping to broaden my horizions next year, when I get my car more track prepped.

Stock suspension.
Basic bolt on mods +BNR Stage3's only run at 10psi on the track.

No Cones,
What are you driving (or more specifically what's been done to it) to turn those times? I don't feel i've enough laps at any particular track yet to time trial, but here are the ones I know:

Watkins Glen: 2:16:XX
Summit Point (only ever done three days there): 1:28:XX (almost a :27).

Now that's the ex Harvard QB I know!!!

if i had a truck and trailer i would love to tow my car up. but if something happens id be 6 hours away from home. for now, Lime Rock will be my home. thanks for all the advice though, i truly do appreciate it.

Nothin special for power...typical stage 3 stuff on a stock motor stock turbos, dp, stock cat, cat-back, and typical suspension stuff... coilovers, front sway, toe & trailing arm links, Willwood fr brakes, CCW rims & Hoosiers. Don't want to down-play the mods, the car is very well sorted w/ most attention paid to suspension. You do NOT need big power to turn good lap times. As has been argued in the past, alot of power & fast laps may be mutually exclusive. It's VERY difficult to keep temps down (even @ ~320hp - never mind ~400hp) thereby limiting ones ability to drive the snot out of the car on the track.

Anyway, thanks for the input and keep at it! You might want to take a peak @ COMSCC.com ... primarily a northeast group, but they do have a date @ Summit. Great opportunity to time trial with a great group of guys who are interested in squeezing the last tenth of a second out of a lap.

Don't let that hold you back. There are many folks who trailer and more that don't. If you have a problem there's always someone willing & able to tow you back...(right Jack? :)) might cost ya a dinner and some libations!

Sounds similar to mine, except that I haven't smoked from the hoosier crack pipe yet. Nor am I running aggressive brake pads... Nick's lapping day compound. 1:24's at Summit and 2:10's at WGI I think are about the limit of the car's potential, and will be my targets once I'm on Hoosiers and PFC 01's, and put a few more days in on each.

The first time was free, Watkins Glen...drove your car home mine was on your trailer... Second time, car blew up on the way back from the Glen as I entered MA.... We had to go back to pick my car up...tip was $100.00...

LOL.

Great attitude, I love this mofo :)

VIR full 2:07 (shitty tires but car running well on a clean track)
VIR North 1:41 (time trial with old hoosiers)
VIR South 1:16 (time trial with old hoosiers)
VIR Grand 3:06 (street tires and 1st time on the track)

Summit Full 1:23 (slight on and off drizzle with old slicks and car running well)

These times were all in highly modded single turbo FDs running low boost at approx 10 or 11 psi that weigh about 2600lbs.

Ahh...the good old days. At least my car does me the favor of blowing-up in the garage... considerate don't you think?

For any afraid to travel to events...don't be. Assuming the event is put on by a local group, or there is a good number of local folks attending...there will always be space on someones trailer to get ya home if all doesn't go well.

Thanks Fritz...for the support and the contribution...

At some point I'll compile all the data gathered on this thread. With any luck there will be some value-added...

...there will always be space on someones trailer to get ya home if all doesn't go well.[/QUOTE]


That's what I'm counting on Honey.....

Don't kid yourself regarding the car's potential. If I'm not mistaken Brian Richards was running 2:09s at the Glenn in a Motorolla Cup FD... i.e., admittedly light, however, skinny tires, stock sized brakes, probably ~ 320 hp.

I have learned...no one here has extracted all the FD's potential. Seat time, seat time, seat time.

That's un-called for... I've already established my price, no need to offer man-love as a kicker!

What's changed??? I thought you came out of the closet???

Back to the topic...

Anyone else want to provide some lap times ??? I know there are a bunch of you (particularly interested in FDs) that have some times to provide... Jack? John M, others???

Lime Rock 1.01.
Watkins Glen 2.15.
NHIS (Old Track) 1.17 (south oval)
Mt Tremblant 2.00
Bridgehampton 2.00

Thunderhill: 2:04
Infineon: 1:54

Above times were running Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires and ABS that doesn't work (major lockup prone under hard braking).

I have a new FD I'm building with LS7 power (550rwhp n/a) and everything works... hoping to knock 5 seconds off at each track running Hoosiers and more seat time. That is my 2007 goal at least. This is a street car where I simply change out the tires to race and run the same street oriented alignment with streetable springs (550/450#).

I haven't had the chance to run the LS1FD yet. I've signed up for NHIS on Monday/Tuesday, but I don't think I'll be able to make it. My hotel is already booked for Tremblant.

Times in my WRX:
NHIS C/C 1:22
Lime Rock 1:07
Tremblant 2.00.029 (faster than Jack?)
Mosport 1:47

With this i'll agree. Per all of the lap time comparison threads we've seen about comparing best FD times with those of M3's, Vettes, and Porsches, it's important to remember how comparitively little these cars were developed, how infrequently they were raced, and how infrequently they've been in the hands of real pro's to turn times.

More times in a stock r1 with catback NO dp or mp, intake, victo racers and Hawke blues on all corners at 8 to 10 psi (bad check valve hehe). 135 or so on the straights at Summit and 140 at VIR.

Summit 1:26
VIR 2:16

FWIW I think a stock FD with hoosiers, exhaust and intake that's lightened a bit and track prepared could run a 1:24 at Summit and 2:13 at VIR.

You're definitely right about the cars potential not being tapped yet. Spec miata times keep falling and that's a very competitive class so it's truly all about seat time.

No cones and me will see you at Mt Tremblant, btw bought another roll bar from the Race Shop...my time at Mt Trembant was back in 98 on the old track..however times don't lie so "let the games begin". Also, did the hitch work out for you?

VIR 2:08 (only 2 events, both with old tires, never got hang of turn 10)
Road Atlanta 1:35
Daytona 2:04
Barber 1:37
Memphis 1:13 (skinny old tires)

1st gen, naturally aspirated

I admit I know nothing of the other 3 tracks and I've only been to RA once...but 1:35 in a n/a 1st gen is tough for me to swallow...

...oops, wrong thread... ;)

2:13.5 at Thunderhill, 2:08.x at BRP runing 14A
2500 lbs, 185/13 toyo's and a 115 whp.


Marcus

New time...

Tremblant (long course) 1:55.11. First time back on the track in over 5 years.

2:08 at VIR hmmm

That's very fast for any car much less a 1st gen that's naturally aspirated. Please fill us in on your secret to speed. I'm sure you're great driver but lets hear about that car.

Well... I have only driven west coast tracks.

I've done 1:45 at Laguna Seca on stock size Toyo RA1s which is an ok time for a DE event. Spec Miatas have matched or beaten that time with top drivers. A lot of time at Laguna Seca can be shaved off if you drive it with balls of steel and great skill. I guess I worry too much about my car and my neck.

I've done Buttonwillow many times but it has so many different configurations that it's hard to compare times from event to event.

I've done a lot of events at Spring Mountain in Pahrump, NV. They just enlarged the track and I've only run the new track on street tires so I don't have a good time there yet. The old track I could do a 1:51 on R compounds.

I just got back from 3 days at VIR and my fastest lap time on the full corse was a 2:17. I'm still a newbie, but my car is extremely well sorted I just need more damn seat time!!

Fritz, turn your cell on!

For those of you who have raced at Summit Point, can you please post times for the Shenandoah Circuit. (I'm assuming the times posted were on the Jefferson)

Thanks!

That must be the North or South course. Otherwise, I suggest this guy gives Flavio a call about the empty Renault seat.

LOL

I forgot to take my phone in to work and the charger is at work so needless to say it's desperately in need of some juice.

I'll call you tomorrow.

I believe Speedturn's car to be a peripheral ported IMSA GTU style racer. For SCCA folks, that's GT-2. Also, I have seen some of his in-car video shots....the guy is a heck of a good driver.

Jeff, that 1:55 was moving. Thats one of the fastest times in the club. You would have put the hurt on many of the PCA guys on Sat/Sun. Paddy, my brother, said that you passed him like he was standing still. Do you have a full mod list?

I drove like a pussy and ran an embarassingly slow 2:10. Then I threw the keys to Paddy. I kept his times during the moring sessions and just watched as his times dropped second by second from consistent 2:01's all the way down to the 1:56's. and then he ran a 1:56:0 in time trials on 255f/275r RA1's and original 90k mile suspension. ;) V8 powah!

Pete

Well that explains it :)

I knew there was some kind of secret.

Posting GT2 race car would of been a bit more important than old tires :rlaugh:

Thanks Pete. Given the suspension setup your brother's time was amazing! As far as the 2:10...I wouldn't sweat it for a second. Increment, increment, increment. You have plenty of time to work the times down. Only good way is seat time, and it's tough to get seat time if you ball the car up.

I figure I've got another 2+ seconds in me @ Tremblant. I had some boost issues and given the LENGTHY layoff for me and the car I'm pretty pleased with the results. Next time I'll be shooting for low :52s

The car has standard power mods ~315 RWHP. Suspension is pretty standard as well with coilovers (GAB Super R), front sway, rear toe links & trailing arms.

Btw, the motor had a whopping 800 miles on it when it rolled off the trailer Thursday... Break-in??---we don't need not stinkin break-in!

Jeff

Yes, my car is a 1979 RX-7 1st gen, built to run fast on the track; not a street car. I thought this forum was for race car tech.

I mostly compete in Historic Sportscar Racing's IMSA GTU class. I was HSR GTU class champion in 2003 & 2004. I run maybe one race a year in SCCA; my rear spoiler is not GT-2 legal, so I usually run SPO in SCCA road races. Those that came to the big Mitty race in April at Road Atlanta saw me run 1:35. I won the all Japanese car race that weekend. I have offical results sheets with my lap times for the non-believers.

I have stock tail lights. Every other part on the car has been either ground down, welded up, replaced with something lighter, stronger, stiffer, or if the part did not make the car fast and reliable then it was shit canned. Turbos or nitrous are not legal in my GTU race class.

My next race will be an SCCA race at Nashville Superspeedway September 1&2, then at Barber Motorsports Park October 13-14-15. Come out and see my car in person.