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Old 11-04-04, 04:53 PM
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fyi: most racers don't know jack about suspension.
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Originally Posted by Rx7carl
I really want one of his cages in my car. I still may bite the bullet and do it.
Thanks guys!

Carl, Wait'll you see Marks new cage completed! I should have completed pics up some time this weekend. Finishing up the gussets tonight.
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Originally Posted by M's
fyi: most racers don't know jack about suspension.
Ok... I'll bite. If road racers "don't know jack about suspension(s)" then who?
Old 11-05-04, 12:54 AM
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http://www.izzyscustomcages.com/MJYP2CageInstl.html

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Old 11-05-04, 07:52 AM
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Damn dude, we gotta work something out. Marks pretty happy with the car I hear.
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Is that actually IT legal? I could have sworn that IT only got 6 mount points...

Looks damn good though.
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IT allows 8 points with the 7th/8th points only attaching to the firewall per the rules.

Now... what most people forget to do is read the rules and think about them. The entire pad is considered a point and pads can be up to 100 sq. inches (no smaller than 2" or longer than 12" per edge). That's a lot of area if done right but a lot of extra weight if not done with thought. The rear pads themselves are 86 sq. inches. I left some to play with in case someone want's to call the gussetts part of the pad.
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Originally Posted by DamonB
I disagree with that. Sure racing stressing things immensely, but the part should be designed to fill the job. A part failure isn't a failure of the part itself, it usually lies somewhere else. It could be the failure of the engineer who designed it. When it was designed properly and fails its the fault of the guy who welded it up. When it was designed and welded up properly and fails it's the fault of a bad batch of material. When it was designed and welded up properly, the material was good and the part still fails it's the fault of the user not inspecting the part. It's VERY rare for something to instantly and catastrophically fail. The part will always exhibit some sort of failure mode before hand but you have to make the effort to look.

Inspection is one of the most important things in racing and it's the one that is most often overlooked.
Inspection is one of the most vital things when dealing with anything that might pose critical failures.

And this is coming from a certified inspector. At the very least things should be visually inspected if not ultasonically or with mag particle or (in extremem instances) X-Ray.

And it doesn't cost very much for inspections compaired to the cost of rebuilding. I think we charge $40 an hour in our shop for inspections.
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Originally Posted by Speed Raycer
IT allows 8 points with the 7th/8th points only attaching to the firewall per the rules.

Now... what most people forget to do is read the rules and think about them. The entire pad is considered a point and pads can be up to 100 sq. inches (no smaller than 2" or longer than 12" per edge). That's a lot of area if done right but a lot of extra weight if not done with thought. The rear pads themselves are 86 sq. inches. I left some to play with in case someone want's to call the gussetts part of the pad.
Hmmm, didn't know that. Eeenteresting. Also didn't know *that* much pad was legal. Our GCR doesn't seem to get that specific (we're not SCCA but steal their rules ) so it's interesting to find out the SCCA rules are more liberal than I thought.
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Originally Posted by Speed Raycer
I noticed your gussets. A and A ?

Nice cages BTW.




Oh...what about that infomation on your panhard Ben-84.

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Old 11-05-04, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bwaits
Oh...what about that infomation on your panhard Ben-84.

-billy
I still have to unload the car from the trailer, and take the panhard pieces off. I'll let you guys know what it looks like under closer inspection.
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Originally Posted by bwaits
I noticed your gussets. A and A ?

Nice cages BTW.
Thanks... not sure that I follow you on the "A and A?" part????
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I will PM you.

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