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Carl Byck 08-31-05 06:39 PM

First on track pics
 
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...hmentid=129297
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...hmentid=129298
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...hmentid=129299

More to come, these are at Thunderhill with NASA, next some AX, and some Infineon pics

jgrewe 08-31-05 06:53 PM

Keep 'm coming Carl. Stunning car! From your posts I know it has more power than God and from the pictures I see it has enough tire to rotate the earth on a different axis. Have fun and be careful where you point that weapon :bigthumb:

Carl Byck 08-31-05 07:01 PM

More :D
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...hmentid=129311
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...hmentid=129312
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...hmentid=129313
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https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...hmentid=129315

The gray car in the first picture is a tube frame 700hp GT40, we had lots of fun practicing ;)

codered420a 08-31-05 08:20 PM

is it me or does ur front end change from haveing 3 slots to having just 1? I love ur car man. I have simlar plans for my fc. so how was the faster practicer?

atihun 08-31-05 08:22 PM

Awesome! Looks like all your hard work paid off. :)

How did you do against the GT40?

turbo80cid 08-31-05 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by codered420a
is it me or does ur front end change from haveing 3 slots to having just 1? I love ur car man. I have simlar plans for my fc. so how was the faster practicer?

I bet he started with 1 and then went to 3.

Love the car, looks at home on the track.
so how many years from start of build to track?

Carl Byck 08-31-05 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by turbo80cid
I bet he started with 1 and then went to 3.

Love the car, looks at home on the track.
so how many years from start of build to track?

Correct, 1 to 3. There is a plenum that collects that air, and directs it over the IC, and into the oil coolers, and the radiator. It was good for a 10 degree reduction in both oil, and water temps(now 210, and 200 respectively).
As to the GT40, I had him til my clutch started slipping. I was faster in the turns, and he had me on the straights by a little. I am installing a new clutch this weekend thanks to my full sponsoprship from Tracy, and Dirk at ACT(Thanks). The car is working well, I will be at Thunderhill on Sept. 10-11 competing in TTA.
I am going to go to a shorter rear tire, so can lower the car ~1.5" overall. I am also putting the car on a diet. right now, it is putting 480 to the wheels at race boost levels. The car weighs 2900 with a full load of fuel, and me in it. My goal is 2500 with the same. I have done very little other than remove the interior so far. Everything else I have done has added weight. I will be posting some T'hill lap times shortly. Carl

jacobcartmill 08-31-05 09:57 PM

awesome carl.
how was the car performing compared to the others?

Carl Byck 08-31-05 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by jacobcartmill
awesome carl.
how was the car performing compared to the others?

Kicks ass, I am driving at 50% with no clutch, and hanging with all but the very fastest cars.

Carl Byck 08-31-05 10:22 PM

I definitely need bigger brakes.... Is there a vendor offering larger discs, and a spacer for FCs?

37FC3S 08-31-05 10:29 PM

Nice, it looks like it is a blast to drive! All of your posts about track days are making me jones for a track day. I am getting my engine rebuilt right now and have to wait for my next track day in November which is at Thunderhill.

Carl Byck 08-31-05 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by 37FC3S
Nice, it looks like it is a blast to drive! All of your posts about track days are making me jones for a track day. I am getting my engine rebuilt right now and have to wait for my next track day in November which is at Thunderhill.

I'll be there...

37FC3S 09-01-05 12:27 AM

I am going on the 18th which is organized by a guy at my work who has track days a couple of times a year. I might try NASA sometime also since it cost less and I could try a couple of other tracks besides Thunderhill and Button Willow.

Carl Byck 09-01-05 12:33 AM

I am going to try to do the NASA event on the 10th(thursday), it is usually ~10-15 per run group, fast cars, and drivers generally on thursday events.

37FC3S 09-01-05 12:57 AM

The guy at work only takes up to 30 cars and runs three groups. We had less than 20 cars at Button Willow last time which cost a bit. This next time at Thunderhill will be the first time on a track with coilovers and my new 245f/255r tire setup. I only have an 89 NA and I am just trying to catch the M3's for a challenge.

Turbo23 09-01-05 02:23 AM

carl how hard was it to add that center section to your hood to make it look like a evo hood? I know what the hood looked like before

artowar 09-01-05 02:38 AM

Looks awesome Carl!

Kim 09-01-05 04:50 AM

Dude i love your car. :bigthumb:
And fu*k i miss my FC :(

alberto_mg 09-01-05 10:02 AM

absolutely freakin awesome Carl!

So that second clutch you got from RX7store couldn't hold the power either?

DamonB 09-01-05 10:07 AM

Pretty mean looking car, Carl. A car like that deserves a nickname. What do you call it?

90WhiteVrt 09-01-05 11:06 AM

:bowdown: OMG your car if freaken beautiful man. :drool: I can only dream what it would be like...:jerkit:

Force13B 09-01-05 11:14 AM

This is all i have to say :bigthumb: :bowdown:

Carl Byck 09-01-05 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Turbo23
carl how hard was it to add that center section to your hood to make it look like a evo hood? I know what the hood looked like before

What I did was ti lay a piece of ~1" vinyl tubing along the raised edge, and draw a line with a sharoie, then I free hand drew the trailing edge. This was followed by the extremely steady hand of my friend, and co-builder of the body of this car, Alan Sensier of Spoon/Opak Racing. He free hand cut the holes with a cut-off wheel, and a jigsaw(while on the car). I then cleaned it up with a file and a sanding block. A black sharpie for the cut edges blends them in visually. The mesh was a challenge, but I used my wife Memory foam pillows and a comforter off our bed(wrapped in garbage bags) to provide even pressure against the mesh. I zip tied the mesh which is black powder coated expanded steel to the hood. Then I used black PL polyurethane caulk(very flexible, sticks to anything), and laid a thick bead around the edges, and gently closed the hood. A day later, I trimmed the mesh. It looks factory even close up. The hood was designed off the radiator/fan positions of my car, and the combo combined with the new front vents lowered my temps ~30degrees all around.
As a clarification, Jason(RX7Store) is supoosed to replace the Spec clutch with an ACT Extreme. I have not recieved it yet, but I'll call him today, as I have two races in a week. The Spec may have been mis packaged, or not up to the task, I will post when I pull it which it is.
Damon, no name for it yet, I call it "The Beast" but that is not very original. At SS8, I will have a sign that says your wing here(hopefully Amemiya San will see it). Either way, I need more DF, as the car can still accelerate ;) Thanks to everyone for the compliments. Someone asked how long it took to complete. I did it after work, and weekends over the last two years. did it for less than 20K total, and it will be 25K with fire supression/Data aquasition/some custom work not yet done to the suspension, and bigger brakes. Carl

ghettostamps 09-01-05 12:18 PM

Unfortunately I haven't kept up with a lot of your story except for the end of the build, that car looks amazing....

Give me the chance to write you up for a story man, please... :bigthumb:

gnx7 09-01-05 01:14 PM

Looks great Carl. I can't wait to see it in person as the last time I saw it in your garage it was in the beginning stages and still rootbeer colored and then the TriPoint style flares.

I'm curious what brakes you go with and those 16" rims which will limit your selection.

I'll be at Thill 9/10 and 9/11 also. Are you getting a hotel room or what? PM me. I still haven't gotten accomodations.

rotoober 09-01-05 02:06 PM

Racer B&B
 
You could crash at my place if it was after October, as you remember I'm only 30 minutes from the track, full shop and housing for 100! Sorry to say our olive picker bed and breakfast will be booked solid the weekend your coming up :(
But, I'll stop buy and drop some olives off in the "pitts". :bigthumb:

Matt

Carl Byck 09-01-05 02:10 PM

Hi Matt:) Mark, brakes should not be a problem, caliper height is the only issue. my 16x11s fit over the Supras 13.25" brakes NP. As far as accomadations, I may bring the family, I'll let you know.

John Magnuson 09-01-05 05:51 PM

For tight clearances you might want to check into Wilwood. They have some "slim"calipers that might work for you. I assume your brakes are well ducted?

Carl Byck 09-01-05 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by John Magnuson
For tight clearances you might want to check into Wilwood. They have some "slim"calipers that might work for you. I assume your brakes are well ducted?

Thanks John, I'll check it out. I am going to start with a fluid re-circulator, and a rear brake bias delay, and see what the limit of the stockers with pads, and the above is. Yes my brakes have 3" ducting, and the AWR duct pieces. Carl

RX-Heven 09-01-05 08:49 PM

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Carl, your car looks great doing what it was built to do. Glad to see you out there enjoying it finally. That is one mean machine for sure.

As for brakes, the simplest and cheapest upgrade is to go with the two-piece rotors from AWR and have them, along with some new race pads in your stock calipers cryo-treated.
Pads and rotors, whatever you end up using, are only $85 to have treated and will definately pay for themselves.

These guys are in Oakland. Their shop is actually called Conversion Techniques and they specialize in BMW and Porsche racing. Cryo stuff is their "side" business.
http://www.300degrees.com/

Very soon we'll both be out there in our widebody 2nd gens tearing the competition new a-holes :D

Funkspectrum 09-01-05 11:22 PM

Carl....you going to go to the next ESCA auto-x? I'm going to be there....i want a damn RIDE man!!

90WhiteVrt 09-01-05 11:55 PM

Video would be awesome if possible

Carl Byck 09-02-05 12:47 AM

The videos are a little violent, also, HI8, so showing them is a problem. Nader, not sure if you'll fit in a Sparco Rev, but you can try ;)

Funkspectrum 09-02-05 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Byck
Nader, not sure if you'll fit in a Sparco Rev, but you can try ;)

You callin me FAT?!? FAT?!?!?!11!!!1

I CAN fit in a damn Greco car seat, man!!! ;)

I'll fit man...for sure...If not, i'll give you a dollar... :D

Carl Byck 09-02-05 01:14 AM

Better stop eating all that pizza;)

Carl Byck 09-02-05 01:20 AM

Nader...I was just reading over Carl's shoulder. Hmmmm. You know he's full of @#$%.
Just cause he's a skinny boy from the East Coast. My best homemade lasagne can't even put meat on his bones, besides that, I am just over 100lbs, and can fit in his race car seat (barely). - Kristine

Carl Byck 09-02-05 01:21 AM

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she likes em thick

FxF 09-02-05 03:12 AM

Glad to see your car in action.
Even just in photos.
Also glad to see that this is a family project.
Enjoy!!!

-Fanis
P.S. Waiting for a video.... ;)

Funkspectrum 09-02-05 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Byck
Nader...I was just reading over Carl's shoulder. Hmmmm. You know he's full of @#$%.
Just cause he's a skinny boy from the East Coast. My best homemade lasagne can't even put meat on his bones, besides that, I am just over 100lbs, and can fit in his race car seat (barely). - Kristine

Oh, I know Carl is full of $#!t....for sure! ;) it's probably not even him driving the car in those pictures. Hell, it's probably not even his CAR!! LOL!


Oh, can I come over for Lasagne??? :D

M's 09-03-05 11:33 AM

cryro is only a surface heat treatment. It is a waste of time and money. A heat treatment may be worthwhile but you should be fine with cast iron rotors.

Call stoptech, last time i was there i was told they have a second gen kit coming out.

rx7 punk 09-03-05 06:35 PM

AWWWWWW, its like something from many of my wet dreams but on a track.

RX-Heven 09-04-05 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by M's
cryro is only a surface heat treatment. It is a waste of time and money. A heat treatment may be worthwhile but you should be fine with cast iron rotors.

You obviously have NO idea what you are talking about.
Please stop with the misinfo.

Carl Byck 09-04-05 02:51 PM

Take it to another thread kids ;) Cryo the discs yes, pads, LOL... Anyway, Dave, I'll be calling you to help me get my aquamist dialedfro BW after SS8, I'll be battling a 700hp Supra track car that is coming for me ;) :D

88fc3sw/HX83 09-05-05 08:32 PM

Dayamm Carl your car looks GREAT, running on the track!

NasaPro7 09-05-05 10:54 PM

Carl- you can also cryo wheel bearings, not sure if its as much of an issue with the FCs as FBs, but sometihng to look into...

Marcus

RX-Heven 09-06-05 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Byck
Cryo the discs yes, pads, LOL... Anyway, Dave, I'll be calling you to help me get my aquamist dialed for BW after SS8, I'll be battling a 700hp Supra track car that is coming for me ;) :D

I laughed too when they told me I should cryo the pads (new) and thought they were trying to squeeze a few extra bucks out of me. It is the same price with or without the pads at the place I use. My pads lasted easily twice as long long but hey, it's only money....

Call me anytime about the Aquamist. Also, I will be showing up at Buttonwillow in the early afternoon on Sunday after Sevenstock on my way back home.
Show those Supra geeks what's up ;)


Originally Posted by NasaPro7
Carl- you can also cryo wheel bearings, not sure if its as much of an issue with the FCs as FBs, but sometihng to look into...Marcus

Carl, I am having this done as we speak, at least to the fronts. You and I may have to pay extra-special attention to our wheel bearings as we will be rolling on massive tires that will put our bearings through hell by way of greater lateral loads.
Are you still running the oem front hubs/bearings?

btw, I managed 295/30/18's on 18x11's with room for 315/30's up front along with 335/30/18's on 12x18's with room for 345/30's in the rear and still being able to lower the car to the ground if I choose :)

Carl Byck 09-06-05 11:13 PM

Yea, I understand from Mark you went wider than the tripoint set-up. I am going to a shorter tire to get the car lower. BTW, I am Re-classed to TTU by John, Oh well... I threatened to protest Mark, but I am really just kidding with him. It will be interesting in the end run to see how the Mega Buck Vert fairs vs the garage built special. So you are putting the dry sump 20B in? What suspension? What shop is doing the body? Maybe I'll shoot down there this week, and check out how the pros put a car like this together. Are you going to use all the ancillary stuff from the 13bt on the 20B? As soon as I finished my car, I wished I had gone about an inch wider, now I'll have to fab some special suspension bits to make it work.

Carl Byck 09-06-05 11:14 PM

Forgot, no, I am not using stock bearings in the front.

RX-Heven 09-07-05 12:00 AM

Here is a thread with some progress pics:
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...9&page=1&pp=15
The work is being done by Sears Point Autobody at the track. Steve is about the only one whom I'd trust do do a job like this inn the time frame I need it done by.

Your car will easily be 500+ lb. lighter and probably have an edge in power (until the 20b), not to mention running on slicks. You better be faster. What were your times at Infineon?
I told you you'd be in TTU ;) as will I.
I was hassling Mark too btw :D

I'm selling the 10AE widebody :( but the 20b and suspension are going in the vert.
Most everything for the 20b will be different except for the dual fuel pumps, ic and radiator setups.

Carl Byck 09-07-05 10:57 AM

I am not sure how he can come up with less than 25 points, 5/tires, 1/seat, 2/gutted rear,7/engine swap, 1/non stock intake, 1/cat back, 2/header, 1/lw fw, 4/ engine mods, 2/final drive change, 1/remove emissions, 2/changed fuel, 1/ dp, 7/coilovers, 3/ big brakes, etc/etc/etc.... One can rationalize that once you do engine, the others are included, but then I'd still be in TTA as well. John said if it's listed you have to add it. Mark, speak up, enquiring minds want to know. Since you have decided to "compete", it's 'Da Rules', Carl


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