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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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Car feels light at high speed..Front spoiler?

I didn't like it at all..I'm not on my performance tires but still..my front end felt very loose when i did a slight turn at 100+mph.

Am i getting too much air lift?

Of course this was responsible and on a track.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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What car FTC?
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 11:54 PM
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Alignment, shocks or bushings. Or all 3.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 07:16 AM
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Depends on what he has for P/S also. P/S will give the car a very light and touchy feel at high speeds depending on the P/S setup. My 87 GXL felt the same way at 100+ MPH and after removing the P/S (I was never a fan of it) the "lightness" went away. It gave a much better feel for the road and you can tell what the front tires are doing much easier. Only downside is that it makes it harder to steer at low speeds and stops.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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I never had a problem on any of my 4 FCs. I had 2 Turbo II, 1 GTU and a 'vert. The PS on both cars are either speed sensitive or RPM sensitive so at higher speeds there is no power assist.

The only time I had anything similar on either of my 2 FDs was when the alignment was off or the shocks were worn.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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A picture of your car would be nice, to see your aero setup

"my front end felt very loose when i did a slight turn at 100+mph"
did it feel twitchy, darty loose and over-responded ? or did it not want to turn in at all?
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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What year car? 1st gens are pretty notorious for high speed front end lift, but is easily corrected with an air dam....




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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 12:44 AM
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It's actually a E36 BMW, i don't have a set up right now..I know my alignment is off, it just felt SLOPPY..i'm on stock struts but i know these cars handle well.

I think the more i think about it my problem was body roll.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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Again, what year? I've got a 98 328i, so I might be able to assist with this. I've dealt with a lot of front end issues in the process of bringing her back up to spec.

This will depend on the year you've got, but the ball joints are probably the first thing I'd look into. Pull into a Sears store and get a free front end inspection (don't let them work on your car though). If the ball joints are bad, a shop will charge you a couple hundred bucks to replace just one of them (there are three per side). What I found out after paying a shop to change out my first one was that you can get an entire A-Arm with all three ball joints installed for under a hundred bucks. Swapping them out takes about an hour per side.

Body roll can also be a problem. Is yours a sport edition, or just an "i" like mine? Body roll is kinda harsh on mine, but only low speed hard turns are a problem. High speed sweepers are a joy. I'll probably look into improved end links and bushings at some point, but right now all my love goes to my 7.



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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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You sure it's not the power steering? In my brothers bmw its wayyy too sensitive (doesnt adjust)
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FeatherTheClutch
It's actually a E36 BMW, i don't have a set up right now..I know my alignment is off, it just felt SLOPPY..i'm on stock struts but i know these cars handle well.

I think the more i think about it my problem was body roll.
this is a euro car thing, but if you have miles on it, the suspension is likely to be totally shot. not the shocks and springs, but all the bushings, and tie rod ends.

i like the go to sears idea, its easy to check.... its also a good time to check things like the center driveshaft bearing, and all the subframe mounts, motor and trans mounts, radiator hoses, fuel hoses, etc etc

ALL of the plastic and rubber in these cars is made from recycled "stuff", and just doesnt last as long as the old german rubber, which wasnt very good in the first place...
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