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Old 02-02-07, 07:38 PM
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Japan2LA I will not do business with

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Although I did NOT finish purchasing from him, I would NOT want to do business
with Brian due to bad business ethics

Here's the story:
I was trying to get a engine swap from Japan2LA just recently.
I was skeptical to buy as he had BAD feedback on some previous transactions
(link to that bad feedback https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...light=japan2la) Although HE had good transactions in the past, this is the most recent.

He sent me some pictures of the engines for sale but I was not comfortable finishing the transactions as the pictures of the motor were really dark and the
transmission was nowhere in the pictures (I'll attach those pictures soon as i
don't have a photo editer on this computer.)

-I asked him for the compression number and I never got exact numbers only his "i can guarantee it's over 100"
-No exact mileage, only said 30-40k
-he did send me 2 pics, both pictures are really dark and seems like the motor was rusting and another was in better condition and still hard to see.


HERE's MY COMPLAINT:

-Would you buy anything without getting good pictures?

-All I ever got was "i can guarantee they're fine" never any specifics

-In the end he tries to pressure me by saying "are you taking it or not?"
and followed by

"I already figured you were wasting my time.. Both motors are sold...In the future, find another source.. " (right, 2 motors sold in the same day within the hour)


Brian,

You should practice better business ethics, nobody wants to buy from "word of mouth sales"
Especially with large item sales like a motor, car, transmission, the consumer has the RIGHT to have detailed pics and details Trying to force a customer to buy your product will not do you any good.
Now I know you are a BS'er. Thanks for nothing









Here is a record of our pm/e-mails chronologically in order (most recent first)

Brian : I already figured you were wasting my time.. Both motors are sold...In
the future, find another source..

Brian: Please let me know ASAP.. My local buyer just called and wants it
TODAY.. I
need to tell him yes or no before 5pm today..

Me: Honestly I'd like to see the pics of the tranny but that'd be too much work
for you to do and i'd feel bad if i didn't take it

Brian: Well, are you taking it or not?

Me: I'm interested in the one from picture fd_002 the one with the silver
elbow.
Just let me know about the transmission, as long as it doesn't grind or not
notchy it should be fine. How long has it been sitting there?

Brian: I only took pics of the motors as I do not have time to pull the
transmission down from the shelf at this moment. They are in the back of my
DARK shop and there is too much stuff to move in order to take pics

Brian:I have 2 motors left. Both have 100psi or better on both rotor housings...

Brian: The motor is a series 6 engine. Cant pin point the year but can say its from a 93-96
Rats nest is there and all plugged in.
Jdm trans same as US trans just has a slightly different 5th gear .806 instead of .796

Brian: Yes, motor and trans is $2100.00 plus shipping. The harness is not included and probally will be cut (The harness gets cut off in japan) use your old/current harness..

The shipping is $140.00.
So you are looking at $2240.00 plus 3% paypal fee ($67.20)
So, $2307.20 delivered

Mileage 30,000 to 40,000 miles only
Compression, over 100psi per housing per apex face.

Also, I only accept "confirmed shipping address" paypal payments
MY paypal: ss427bb@hotmail.com

Me: Ok, just a few more things, I'll gladly buy it if it all checks out. It's just a big purchase without me personally checking it out, hope you understand.

- Can I have pictures of the engine I'll be getting?
send to ( kavong@rocketmail.com )
- Also some details like the year of the engine (or car),
condition of the turbos, and engine mounts
- Does this engine have the rats nest or is it the simplified one?
- Can the transmission from the JDM bolt up to the USDM?

Brian: Yes still have

Me: Do you still have the motor for sale?

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Old 02-02-07, 07:56 PM
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This is why this section is Bullshit.. You are starting a GGBG thread against me and you have purchased NOTHING from me...

You are shallow and petty... not to mention an absolute PAIN IN THE ***...

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Old 02-02-07, 08:11 PM
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I don't care, I've stated my facts for other people to see what kind of a person you are. I will not do business with you, and the only BS'er here is you.

Do you have to buy something in order to be a bad guy?
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I've had good experiences with Brian. he may be a little short and blunt about things, but who likes to have their time wasted.

What are you trying to buy, a jspec? no offense to anyone using /selling jspec, but you get what you pay for.

If you didnt buy anything, what are you complaining about?
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Originally Posted by NeedFD
I don't care, I've stated my facts for other people to see what kind of a person you are. I will not do business with you, and the only BS'er here is you.

Do you have to buy something in order to be a bad guy?
you where a pain in the *** customer from the word get go. Most business owners can see this from a mile away and are happy to turn down the sale or not go out of thier way to make the sale due to the overwhelming pain in the *** the customer is going to be. Can you blame him?
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Originally Posted by stylEmon
I've had good experiences with Brian. he may be a little short and blunt about things, but who likes to have their time wasted.

What are you trying to buy, a jspec? no offense to anyone using /selling jspec, but you get what you pay for.

If you didnt buy anything, what are you complaining about?

as stated, he DID have good feedback from some buyers
The complaint is that the pictures were dark, no accurate compression numbers, no pictures of the transmission.
Why would i be wasting his time if i'm only asking for clean pictures? I don't buy things blindly and personally if i could go and personally check it out I would.

I didn't buy anything but this is the GOOD GUY BAD GUY section not the GOOD BUY BAD BUY
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Originally Posted by hondahater
you where a pain in the *** customer from the word get go. Most business owners can see this from a mile away and are happy to turn down the sale or not go out of thier way to make the sale due to the overwhelming pain in the *** the customer is going to be. Can you blame him?

fine by me, you wanna stay in business you put up with crap, otherwise don't do business

the saying "customer is always right" can be used 90% of the time, I deal with customers all day long.

If someone were to sell something to you and said "Selling a used intercooler good condition?" and didn't provide much detail and pictures would you blindly buy it?

Say you received it and the item was damaged would you just say "it's ok no problem keep the money? "

pictures are worth 1,000 words.

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Originally Posted by NeedFD
fine by me, you wanna stay in business you put up with crap, otherwise don't do business

the saying "customer is always right" can be used 90% of the time, I deal with customers all day long.

If someone were to sell something to you and said "Selling a used intercooler good condition?" and didn't provide much detail and pictures would you blindly buy it?

Say you received it and the item was damaged would you just say "it's ok no problem keep the money? "

pictures are worth 1,000 words.

I actually feel sorry and embarassed for you. You are not only making an *** of yourself you are showing everyone that you have the potential of becoming the customer from hell..



My advise: sell your blown motor FD while you still can...as after people read this, NO ONE will help you get that car going again as your are clearly a PITA and a person who has no respect for a person time and energy...

The RX7 world is very small and when you start rubbing people the wrong way you will find yourself on the outside looking in..


I have done nothing to you, have wronged you in no way, yet you have gone out of your way to try to get back at me...by starting this thread


You dont know me, never met me and can not pass judgement upon me....(clearly you ethics are out of order since you created this thread)

You need to look in a mirror and do some soul searching buddy...or find a thearpist who can help you address your personality malfunction.


I think I will say a few prayers for you tonight...
Old 02-02-07, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Japan2LA
I actually feel sorry and embarassed for you. You are not only making an *** of yourself you are showing everyone that you have the potential of becoming the customer from hell..



My advise: sell your blown motor FD while you still can...as after people read this, NO ONE will help you get that car going again as your are clearly a PITA and a person who has no respect for a person time and energy...

The RX7 world is very small and when you start rubbing people the wrong way you will find yourself on the outside looking in..


I have done nothing to you, have wronged you in no way, yet you have gone out of your way to try to get back at me...by starting this thread


You dont know me, never met me and can not pass judgement upon me..

You need to look in a mirror and do some soul searching buddy...or find a thearpist who can help you address your personality malfunction.


I think I will say a few prayers for you tonight...
HAHAHA you're also a comedian!!
I've worked on my own car ever since I've owned it, did the previous swap myself.
Don't worry I know what i'm doing, I am not new to the car game.

You have superiority complex, I think you need therapy. Why do you think you're the only source for a new engine out there? You are judging me in thinking that I don't know how to work on cars!!

Prayers eh? You think god will punish me for not buying an engine from you? If I'm gonna be in hell, you gotta pray for yourself so the devil doesn't own you.

Regards,
-Customer from hell (rofl)
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Originally Posted by NeedFD
You think god will punish me for not buying an engine from you? If I'm gonna be in hell, you gotta pray for yourself so the devil doesn't own you.

Regards,
-Customer from hell (rofl)
Yea he is the only one that will back up his engines. Just checkout the other ggbg and see what trouble people are having with other companys.
Thanks Robert
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Originally Posted by fc3s91
Yea he is the only one that will back up his engines. Just checkout the other ggbg and see what trouble people are having with other companys.
Thanks Robert
Hey Rob, I am just about ready to close the book on FD motors too... This is the kinda B.S. I am sick of dealing with...
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I got my sources, thanks though

Originally Posted by fc3s91
Yea he is the only one that will back up his engines. Just checkout the other ggbg and see what trouble people are having with other companys.
Thanks Robert
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Originally Posted by NeedFD
I got my sources, thanks though
GOOD LUCK
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Originally Posted by fc3s91
GOOD LUCK
humor out of thin air, nice! can you pass me that blunt?

FYI: I have many local shops here, and my last shortblock cost me $1100 but i'm looking for a complete swap to save me the hassle. Japan2LA had a good price on the swap but an attitude I don't like. If he indeed sold those motor, he got what he wanted, money, so why would he say something like "in the future find another source"


pictures
fd_001 picture definitely doesn't look like a 30k motor to me


I was very close to closing the sale,
this is the last bit of conversation with him:

Him:Well, are you taking it or not?

Me: Honestly I'd like to see the pics of the tranny but that'd be too much work
for you to do and i'd feel bad if i didn't take it

** he had told me previously that he had the transmission stored away behind other parts which would require a lot of parts moving**

him: Please let me know ASAP.. My local buyer just called and wants it TODAY.. I
need to tell him yes or no before 5pm today..

Me: Brian, go ahead and sell it, I like your deal but I would really like to see
better pics, I'm sure you can get more in later on?

him: I already figured you were wasting my time.. Both motors are sold...In the future, find another source..

Was I in anyway rude to him? I told him if he had one later on I'd still have my doors open for business.

Is it wrong to ask for exact compression numbers? Other shops or even personal sellers will give you compression numbers, all 6 readings, not "hey it's good, take it"
Also the transmission is nowhere to be found here either, so for all I know it could just be a chunk of metal.

It's a $2300 transaction, not a $100 item, i can't afford to take a $2300 hit if it doesn't work out.
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What the **** is everybody getting pissy about? The guy wanted compression numbers and the seller couldn't produce. That's smart in my book, who buys a rotary without getting comp. numbers??? If the seller doesn't like it, too bad, find somebody else to buy. But if you sold them so easily, what are you getting so butt hurt about?
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lol and so what pictures can he take again that will prove that it works? everyone knows what a 3rd gen motor looks like and there is no way just by taking a look at some pictures of a motor you can tell if it will work or not. Brian IS the only guy that I know of that will back up what he says about his products if installed in a timely mannor. Everyone gets bad feedback (it's going to happen, mostly by people like you), but if you look at the numberous ggbg threads about him where people actually did buy the product from him, they have all been happy with thier products/service they got. Sorry budy, your just a pain in the ***.

edit: he did get compression numbers. Short of setting it all back up, recompression testing it all the while taking pictures in the process **cough, cough** pain in the ***, the seller needs to respect that the motor has already been compression tested hence the numbers he already gave him. In the off chance the motor came with poor compression I'm sure brian would have made right.
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No he didn't, he never once compression tested it. He buys them from sellers in japan who say that all their engines have been tested running. If he HAD done the compression test, he wouldn't say, "Oh, they're all at least over 100." Who would do a compression test and not AT LEAST write them down?
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1st off why is japan2la getting pissy about a customer asking some simple questions, anything over $1000 is a good chunck of change so a few pictures of an engine is not hard to produce and I m sure ur camera has a flash so why not use it. It simple customer service that keeps business afloat. from just reading his post I would probably take my money elsewhere.

Originally Posted by hondahater
edit: he did get compression numbers. Short of setting it all back up, recompression testing it all the while taking pictures in the process **cough, cough** pain in the ***, the seller needs to respect that the motor has already been compression tested hence the numbers he already gave him. In the off chance the motor came with poor compression I'm sure brian would have made right.

1.if its so hard or a pain in the *** to setup then dont you think you would write it down for record for those jack *** customers who ask for them.

2.Every one and their mother on this board knows what the engine looks like but doesnt mean when you get it, its going to be nice and pretty.

3. if hes a pain in the *** customer I think ur a dumbass, if asking a seller a few "simple" questions before he drops $2400 cant be answered then why should he even do business with him.

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Originally Posted by XxMerlinxX
No he didn't, he never once compression tested it. He buys them from sellers in japan who say that all their engines have been tested running. If he HAD done the compression test, he wouldn't say, "Oh, they're all at least over 100." Who would do a compression test and not AT LEAST write them down?
Where do you get you information from? You do not know what the hell you are talking about....... I PERSONALLY TEST every engine myself. I will not sell a motor that makes less than 100psi, industry standard is 90psi and most importers will sell a motor with as low as 70psi.

I do not give the exact compression numbers to potential buyers for a reason, here is why...

Any motor thant makes 100 psi or better will be a very good running engine so once I see 100psi the test is over

Also, giving an exact number can get you in hot water: If I state the motor made 109psi and the buyer does his own test, and his test yields only 105psi, then I have just opened myself up to a " you said 109 but my test says 105 complaint"

People do compression test differently and unless you did it the same way under the exact condition I did it then your numbers can be slightly different...
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MY last post in this thread:

This guy has been talking to me via Email/pm for well over a month about buying an engine..( I think he 1st contacted me around christmas of 2006). I answered all of his question, I quoted the shipping, I explained what all was included with the deal, I took pictures.. Basically jumping thru hoops for him. I dont have time to do this... and I dont have to do this.... I sold the motor he wanted yesterday, and the other motor he said he did not want is also sold.. As I am breaking it down for parts to help out another member who needs the housings and rotating assembly and another buyer who wants the Irons..

I do have another 1998 motor and trans swap but its more exspensive and he was already complaining about the price on the other setup so I never even offered it to him..

This is why I simply told him to find another source... and he says he has one so there is nothing left to talk about.. He does not want to do business with me and I SURELY do not want him as a customer...

THE END
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Every so often we read or hear about people getting burned on this forum over a bad purchase, especially for a motor. $2307.20 is a big chuck to drop down for most people, and accounting the time to pull and install a different one. The motor is one of the most essential part of the car that we will pride in, that makes the car a car. Then you hear people who will chime in to say...why weren't you knowledgeable to ask this and that? All of NeedFD's request are valid.

Japan2La - I see your side of not wanting to deal with customers that are a bunch of tire kicking ****'s eating up your time. But all NeedFD was asking you, were to provide some compression numbers, clear picture of the exact motor you're trying to sell and mileage (but this is hard, since it has been pulled from the vehicle already)

If you provided those info and he still decided not to buy and ask you to break it down and mic out the exact numbers on the internals or something, then you have the right to be **** and not wanting to deal with it. But you haven't so he has all the right to post a warning to other forum members of his experience dealing with you.

You are a vendor on this forum, so you wouldn't be here if you weren't make a profit. NeedFD is not here to make a profit, so who has more to gain or loose? Don't even tell us you're here to help the rotary community as charity work. Once again, every has the right to post their experience bad or good or even non-transaction that took place.

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I've heard nothing but good things about Japan2LA. his good guy threads will tell you the same, as they are quite numerous. i've known 2 people who have gotten engines from him, and both engines were in amazing shape.

almost too good to be true.

the picture looks fine to me. looks like a motor in a warehouse. hmmm. warehouses are dark... go figure.


just a thought.
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Originally Posted by XxMerlinxX
What the **** is everybody getting pissy about? The guy wanted compression numbers and the seller couldn't produce. That's smart in my book, who buys a rotary without getting comp. numbers??? If the seller doesn't like it, too bad, find somebody else to buy. But if you sold them so easily, what are you getting so butt hurt about?
thats exactly what im thinking
if the seller cant reel in a sale by just backing up his words and providing some good info, then tough luck on the sale.
2300 is a lot of money..maybe not to some of the more wealthy guys on here.
but even taking the pic as an example...no way in hell that thing looks like its around 30k miles...my motor with 140k total miles look cleaner than that..
tough luck on the bad sale..both sides got their point..but dont get bitchy about a customer wanting as much info as he can before dumping a whole lot of money into your product. and thats that
needfd didnt even say anything to redicule you and you come up with some funny *** bs either tryin to look funny or look like some badass
handle it professionally or dont handle it at all


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