I would NEVER DO business with Sonix7
 

I've been on this forum for many many years and I hope no one support this guy!

Read more about it on this thread..

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...&page=16&pp=15

Go all the way down.. ITs LONG!!!

Man I have been following your thread (amazing work by the way ) . And while I can see your frustration after waiting so long, I think you are taking this too far. You and Sonix had some crazy agreements worked out as it seems and like everyone did what they said. However your standards appear to be unreachable for SOnix in this case. Maybe you should of had your peices done by a more established and expensive company. It doesn't seem like you spared expenses anywhere else.

Its uncalled for to try to ruin this guy especially when he has received so much positive feedback from others.

I understand what you are saying. I been following his career here on the forum. I also feel that its quite sad what he did to me. But if you continue on reading the thread I posted, He REALLY did screw me.. Especially how he sent a painted TAN panels and by sound of what he said on the emails, sold my promised CF panels/original black panels. And unlike what he said, I did pay him by parts and material costing me over $1000. Not to mention hours and hours of my time helping him.

And also, I just wanted my parts back 4 months ago.. finished or not. He just kept on delaying with excuses....

As stated in my post saturday morning.. Some people had good luck with Sonix7.. I on the other hand got loyally screwed and got con'd.

those last few pics of some of your peices do look pretty sorry. More so Sonix should of made you a higher priority since you could really make or break him. Good luck to you man...

Thanks..

The admin have deleted the thread.. LOL!

But this is what I was typing just before admin deleted it...

I've decided to respond to some of Sonix7's earlier posts on this thread.. I didn't even read them when I was posting facts..

This is interesting.. So, I guess when he offered and insisted to do me the parts for FREE, he meant I had to PAY HIM IN CASH!!! And I guess he doesn't understand when he doesn't pay me for the shiftknob ($250+ shipping), the defi gauge ($120+shipping), 10 yards of CF ($400 or so but in his rate $1000), 1 set of R1 lip (retail around $100), 1 set of 99 spec lip ($100-$125+ shipping), etc etc can't be consider as "aledged $1000.00" as it wasn't cash.. Well, lets put it this way, If you paid me for those parts, I would give it right back as CASH! See the thing is, He offered to do these parts for FREE, insisted me to send as many parts (I told him full interior) and later, he kept asking me to track down parts and such.. I knew then he was up to something.. but I didn't mind and bought all those parts for him in TIMELY manner... OUT OF MY POCKET!!!


LOL! I'm sure everyone who read my other posts (with all the emails) would now know who lied. He used my 10 yards of CF that I bought him on other people's parts when he clearly stated that he will do my parts. Again, i have to bring back and say, Jason stated to me and insisted he will do my parts for "FREE". I felt bad from the beginning and compensated him as much as I can by helping him out with the process, tracking down parts, promoting his work, buying him parts for his car, buying materials, etc etc..


WOW! after reading this and he thinks I'm lying about things...
For those of you don't know much about Kev/CF. It was only material available when the CF shortage occured. I know, I was also buying them. I have a 2 yard at my house right now ($40/yard and not $100/yard as Jason stated). If he wants to add numbers, the time I've spent, money I spend sending parts to him because he "insisted", and all other things I've gave him, its way more than $1200 he says he would of charged..

Also, I talked to him in person and me and 20b 3rd gen were going to fly him over to do the overlay here in town for him and I. I was trying to help him make some money and speed up the process.. He quoted John (20b 3rd gen) at the time, $1300 or so to do ALL his interior.. which included the bins, rear quarter, dash, etc etc etc..

And again, He insisted and offered to do my WHOLE interior for FREE!!! I guess this was one of those scam you hear about ha??? People tell you FREE, and there is a catch at the end.. Which is, "I need more money from you!" and I'll send you nothing but crap and swap your parts for inferior parts... like I sent him black panels and he send me painted tan panels.. LOL!

The thread isn't deleted. It is removed from public view though.

Currently debating if you want your thread restored, as a large part of your FD buildup is there. That and you could have your "vendor feedback" in this thread, as opposed to the FD buildup thread.

Dom, if you could restore the build up thread and post #210 and on to this thread (from my post from yesterday morning), i would greatly appreciate it. I think the fellow 7 owners will learn something from my mistake....

LOL... I was almost to the last page in the other thread when it got deleted! From an outside perspective it looks to me like to put it bluntly... sonix7's mouth is writing checks that his ass can't cash. Putting myself in Phil's shoes... I can easily see how promise after promise of a quality item by x-date that never arrives would REALLY piss me off.

I can also see how if I was new to doing CF overlays it could be very frustrating to have someone with high standards and a deadline as a "customer." However, that is sure as hell no excuse.

Chances are this guy is NOT a bad guy and he probably HAS been busting his ass to churn this shit out for Phil. He just doesn't have a lot of experience and he got in over his head then got frustrated and let it blow all out of proportion. I think the best thing he could have done is admit that he srewed up royally early on and taken a step back and start over with some smaller projects for himself. Unfortunately, it seems to me like he would rather act like my wife and take any bit of criticism personally and dig his hole deeper by continuing to make promises.

As for putting this out in the open on Phil's part. It looks to me like he's kept a lid on it and been VERY forgiving for a looong time. The doors are the "straw that broke the camel's back." I can understand how this would piss off sonix7 but he kinda dug this hole himself.

And that's my 2cents... take it or leave it.

I don't know if you read my response to Wanklin's post, but i spend past 1.25 years away from public forum, trying to work out this situation with Jason (sonix7). It wasnt until I recieved the tan panels that really put me over the edge..

I hope the admins will at least transfer the un-related build posts here so that others could read it.. otherwise, I made a pdf copy of my old threads via cache from my computer...

I understand how you might see this and I think if you were in my situation, I think you would be quite pissed off as well... and go far as "bash" jason if this crap happened to you. Why, because I've spend hours and hours of trying to get this situation squared away outside of the forum (via hundreds of emails)... Hence you never heard about this until NOW! And if he would of spent those time emailing me, I say my parts could of been done several months earlier..

If you read some of the emails he sent me, he talked very high about the quality of his work and such. But truth was he couldn't take criticism and I knew he couldn't provide the quality of work he promised nor promised in timely manner. But i gave him chances and hope, and I emphasize HOPE, that when he tells me end of Dec 06 (less than 2 months ago) that he's finishing up and he'll have everything ready, I was hoping those parts at least would be in "great quality".... You have to remember, 1.5 years he's been doing the overlay and my parts were being worked on til End of Dec.. If this was my business and if i'd did this for 1.5 years, I sure do think I'll do a better job than he... And especially the persona WHO HELPED ME and If I insisted to help! Don't forget, he offered to do it for me, I did NOT ask him to do this for me!! And you think he'll get better and I should give him more time, I'm sorry Rob, you just don't understand what I've went thru..

But as stated earlier today, Its the fact that he kept on delaying sending my parts back, finished or not. And ultimately him giving me excuses after excuses why he couldn't send them out and lying about the small remainting parts being ready and sending me tan panels.

The Door situation was the kicker to this!

Pics from other thread...

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Phil,

I need that $1450.00 for that antenna you said you would send, that or I guess I could take 1500 in parts if that works out better. Get back to me.
Thanks
Jonathan

























J/K :smiley309

Ha Ha

Sure! I'll send you $1500 in interior pieces next week.. Its almost ready! wait, I'll send it to you in about a year. You wanted black right? I'll "Fresh them up", which means they are tan interior and Ill paint them in black, so the value of the parts will go WAY up ;) You'll Love it when you get them!

Joking aside, since the admins aren't going to move or don't have much time, I'll start transfer some of the stuff here. The cliff note version..

Jason Evans, aka Sonix 7 have insisted and offered to do my parts for free after several hours of my talking to him and when I bought him and imported $250 dollar RX8 illuminated shiftknob and few parts.

I sent thim 2 BLACK door panels and 10 yards of Carbon Fiber sheets ($400+).

As ALL OF YOU could see, he stated in his email HE stated FREE. But I insisted to compensate him by giving him PARTS for his car, and MATERIALS for the overlay. And yes, He (Jason Evans aka sonix7) insisted me to send all the interior pieces and such.

Jason posted this after I stated all the facts on the "hidden" thread.
I wrote this:
LOL! False claims?? LOL! Please use our justice system and do something about it! Let see what happens??

First, I stated the facts!! Do you see me making stuff up?? I quoted everything you said to me via email!! I didn't make A THING UP!! If you could prove to me that you did not email those things, I would retract! LOL! Also, Pictures don't lie?? You might lie about things but I have done nothing but help you in the past and this is what I get... Hmm.. Even until early this week, I thanked you for sending my parts out! But you screwed me! Sorry! Truth hurts and you brought this to yourself

By the way, I'm not slandering you.. Just providing facts.. And in a weird way, I think you are slandering me, calling me a lier and such.. when I'm actually providing you and everyone with facts.. There is a huge difference! And in a way, you con'd me.. Did you know what you did with the panels???

Do you need to see it again?? You falsified and tried to trick me... its called "con".

pics of the doors..
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...d=221206&stc=1
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I need to also comment about Jason's observation about how his overlay will NEVER LIFT like other wet layups..

As you could see from the very last email he sent me, HE himself said it lifted.. LOL! What a paradox

11 months later he tells me my panels lifted.. I still wanted the lifted panel. Its all for cosmetic purpose anyhow.. I guess he sold it to the other guy for $500 each.

I am very surprised that I came across this thread today. First, Herblenny, you are a well respected forum member, whose opinions and posts I value. This is strange for me, because I have done over $1000 worth of business with Sonix at least, and personally I have never had any problems with him at all. He has gotten things done in a timely manner, and the quality of work is incredible. I consider myself somewhat of a carbon quality control expert, and the quality that he provides, at the price he offers, is really not offered anywhere else.

I hope this was your last option, and you felt this could not be worked out any other way. It seems to me you both have arguments here, and it would have served both of you to keep this out of the public view. Again, I dont think anyone here knows who to believe, but I hope you two can try to work this out. Ruining a business name on this forum is not something you should take lightly, and after seeing how much positive feedback he has, I really hope you tried your best to work it out.

In closing, I vouch for the work and customer service he has provided me, and it seems from his feedback this was a isolated result, and a disagreement between 2 people. I hope you two can work this out.
Just my.2 c.

Phil stated in his original post (which has disappeared) that while not being 100% satisfied with his work he more than likely would have just cut his loses and not said a word.
What threw him over the edge is the fact that he got screwed out of his two black door panels. The ones he sent to get covered were sold to another person and he (phil) ended up recieving two tan door panels that were painted black.
I could see the point from both sides and at first just figured that there was a misunderstanding by both parties an what was to be expected. I cannot however blame phil for wanting a "perfect" piece (which if you look at the photos he did not recieve" for a car that he would be showing at various events.
Now the part that sent phill "over the edge" is the fact that he got two door panels (which were not the ones he sent to be covered) back which were not covered in a cf/kevlar overlay but instead covered in black paint.
Like someone in the original post stated, he got door panels that are less desirable in the first place than the original black he sent but now even more undesirable and now about worthless since they have been ruined by being painted over.
-Jonathan

1) A "perfect piece" is not possible when it comes to carbon fiber unless you pay a big company with the "big" machines to make you one, such as the factory that produced my body kit. That requires paying for molds, or finding a company that already made them. Phil was looking for a great deal, and found it with Sonix, who makes as close to perfect pieces as you can with the way he does the work.

I show my car at more then various events, and his quality is more then good enough.

2) The 2 panels. When you send in a piece to be carbon layered, you are not asking for your particular part back. You are simply trading it for a covered piece that could have been tan, purple or pink before it was carboned. So as far as I understand it, once the dispute became a problem, the panels that were probably going to be covered for phil, might have been completed, sold elsewhere and/or his panels might have been used in another job. Jason sent him an uncovered pair, most likely figuring that he would have them covered elsewhere.

I am curious what you would guess the cost of the panels that were painted would be if you were to buy a new pair?
Also, can you further explain why this work was supposed to be free? When it sounds to good to be true, it usually is.
Also, I cannot view the pictures, so it is hard to make much of a determination.
Lastly, how many parts did he actually deliver to you? It seems like you are now in possesion of a large number of carboned parts that you did not pay for?

First of all, I want to thank fikren for understand my situation.. That's exactly it.. and to add to what he said..

I have worked with Jason Evans aka sonix7 for over a year behind the forum. Never said anything negative and when there was a problem, I kept it off the public via emails. And did this since OCT 2005! Thats over a year!

I also know there are other people who did business with him and got good results. I stated that in my very first post I made on last saturday morning about Jason.

Again, I'm bringing all this up because of the fact he lied about what he offered and insisted to do. He completely disregarded my effords and time I've put in. He used my material which I bought for him and probably did your (mirabile) parts.

I always believed that you help the person who helped you the most! If I make a promise, I follow... If I owe someone, I pay back.... In this situation, he wasted great deal amounts of my time (both emailing hundreds of emails and waiting 1.25 years) and caused great stress! I didn't want to loose over $1000 I put in toward buying him stuff but also all the parts I've sent him.

If those who wants to support people like this, thats great! I think that rotary community is unique and I tried to support the rotary community before I support others.

I knew I could of done this overlay stuff on my own.. I told jason many tricks I've learned 2 years prior to telling him. I had 10 yard of CF at home and 2 yard of kevlar/CF, resin and hardener, etc. I even know a local friend whos a consoltant to manufacturing company and master molder, who was going to let me use his vac system. And when I think back and see how much time I've wasted because I wanted a fellow rotary guy to suceed so he could make something of himself.. It makes me sick that that same person screws me over..

That's why I'M PISSED.. and I think anyone else who's in my shoes will feel very similar.. Wouldn't you mirabile??

And if someone I respect on this forum gets screwed like I did, I wouldn't support Jason Evans either..

mirabile, I did not insist for him to do the parts for FREE! HE did! He asked me to send all my interior pieces. I asked him if he could handle doing it, He said he did.

I also gave HIM over $1000 worth of stuff.. Or bought him and gave him over $1000 worth of stuff.. example, 10yard of CF (50inch wide), Resin/hardener, $250 shiftknob he wanted me to import to US, Brand new Defi gauge (I think oil temp), gave him my extra set of R1 lip so he could covert and sell or use as core, and also 99 lip i gave him for the same reason.. and other misc pieces.. etc etc..

This is what he wrote:

So, I hope you don't think I'm still out of line. Even though he said FREE. I never accepted the "FREE" offer. I compensated him with parts, help him with tons of graphic stuff, tracked down parts, track down materials, etc etc.. My time I've spend helping him in my work time would be FAR greater than what he would of charged me out right to do the conversion..

LOL! Please contact your lawyer and make a lawsuit against me. Why do I think its another one of your lies? You say you would do it but my guess, like previous words you've given me.. it will lead to nothing..

First, Let me point out to you, if you have a legit business, you need to document all your funding source and such. YOU DON'T have that.. So, stop lying and deal with the embarrasement.. before you make even bigger fool out of yourself.. Do you think I'm some dumb idiot?? Why don't I call IRS and report your income you've earned and such.. Do you have a business tax id? you never asked me of any CF that I bought for ya? LOL!

I really think you will WIN!! Yeh!

Your emails are posted to clear up the facts from the false statements. I've stated the facts and also showed what you've stated on the "PUBLIC" forums here are false!

Once again, think with your head what you are doing vs. what I've done.. You are coming on to this thread accusing me of me lying when you are not providing anyone with factual info.... That I consider slandering! Maybe I should find a lawyer for ya and make a civil suit? But you know what, its not worth my time.. I just want others to know who you really are...

I on the other hand provided EVERYONE with facts! Pics and emails you sent me stating what you would do! So, get things straight before you try to make a law suit.. If your lawyer is that dumb to take on this case.. That's great! LOL!

Jason,
I guess you didn't really read the other thread did you?? LOL!

Stop making excuses and assuming things. It was clearly stated thru phone calls and emails. I've stated and have all the emails you've sent me. END OF STORY! YOU pulled my chain for over 1.25 years. I would of complained and not recommend anyone to you if I had my parts back. It was a mistake on my part to send them to you.

And there is someone else you did work for who's not happy.. Hope they will get on.. because he pm me to let me know about it but didn't post on the other thread.

Just goto your lawyer and make a lawsuit against me. Thats what you said and you should stick to that.. :) You have my numbers and address. Please use that and DO it!

I will however call the IRS and ask them to do some back ground checks. Anyone else beside Manny,Mirable and Maxspeed you made money off of?

Anyone Viewing this thread and Have done business with Sonix7 aka Jason Evans, please post and tell me what he charged for the parts you've bought or parts converted. And also state if you recieved an invoice from so called, "Carbonfiber Innovation".

Thanks!

LOL! this is classic! So, why didn't you do that if it was so simple.. I'm sure those who saw my handles first time and second time wonders about that too. And why all other pieces have that if its so simple to do?? Geez! You just made a mistake there stating that.. Or am I assuming things??

Jason, better just stay off the forum, if you want it to make it all better. And I am sure Phil will discontinue his reviews on your products. Because every time you come back, Phil will post.

Please do not threaten people with getting a attorney and please understand the legalities before you state them in the first place. There are a few issues you are going to encounter and I will give you a few examples. There are numerous website that give consumer the ability to express their own reviews of bad experiences and bad products, basically in your own words, "deflaming". Couple of well-known websites are cnet and epinion, those websites "deflame" products and let masses realize the potential risk in the products.

Another issue, do you have a business licenses and paying taxes on the item you are selling? By law, you are not in compliance and there are certain fines you must pay.

Lastly, did you ever go through with any of your promises? All the documentations pretty much put you in a bind. You did not repair any of Phil's parts you sent back to him and you still have a lot of his parts. You pretty much used Phil parts to practice on and messed it up. Phil can not even use his panels that he received from you. The items you overlay for him was a waste. Waste of his materials and parts he gave you. Most likely all the parts Phil gave you, you need to give it back and did I mention you wrote free? Hmm...if I were you, I would send all of Phil parts back and just swallow it up.

Now, if Phil did not comply with what was listed above, it will be so hard do even do anything. First you have to find an attorney to take the case, another, is your fees for your attorney will outweigh anything against Phil. Better dish out about $2k for standard fees, and Phil could drag it out, than the fees will add up fast. Because every time the attorney travels to court, we wont talk about the cost. The only attorney that would take the case, would do the case and take your money and in the end, there would be nothing resolve. Just more money and time in the hole.

Good luck and a word of advice, not being rude, but do not post.

On a side note, if fish eye is that easy to fix than Phil needs to send you all those parts back and you fix that problem. It is not as easy as it seems, if it was, you would have done it already and not sent him the messed up pieces. Every time you wet sand you risk of chance of tearing into the clear and resin.

Thanks Leo for giving him some advice..

But to clearify some of Leo's statement. Jason did give me all my parts back.. I think?? I sent him so much I didn't really keep a good count of it all.

To Jason, I REALLY would like for you to stick to your words and go talk to your lawyer! I think you tried to use our justice system to scare me.. but I hate to say this but you have no case... But Please, follow through what you posted before. We all LOVE to hear how some people turn to law to make quick change!

Second, I have a good friend of mine from high school/college who works in the legal department at one of the Colorado hospitals and I have ask him for a favor to check in on few things for me..

Anyone who would like to help, i need to know who bought stuff from Jason Evans aka sonix7 or his so called business, "Carbon Fiber Innovation". If you wouldn't mind telling me what you've bought, how much it cost, and if you recieved an invoice.

I hope you haven't filed your tax for 2006 year.. there might be some issues..

Why can't I see any of the pictures?

I can't see pictures

It does not allow "img" on pics located on this server.. I don't know why?

https://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL13.../229984101.jpg
paint coming off of the door panel.. It even smells funny

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Difference between my other panel vs the ones I receieved from Jason Evans (aka Sonix7)
I've compared it with other 3 FD blk door panels I have..

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Small section i scraped the paint and see the tan underside.

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Some parts that I recieved from jason that does not fit.. This one is HORRIBLE! Its all deformed!

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The cluster fuck! LOL! it does not fit properly and looks kind of bad..

I'll post more pics..

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Back of the handles.. Excessive resin.. but this one isn't as bad as the first one.. 1st set, Ive spend 2 hours taking the resin off..

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You could see the wavyness and dullness of the parts..

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL131.../229985418.jpg
Now compare to the Feed handle.. you could see fisheyes and such.. Not a professional quality.

I cant see any of the pictures either.

Again Herb - I support the rotary community as much as you do. When I look at 15 positives and 1 negative I get curious, especially when I myself have had multiple positive experiences. So far, I see you trying to exercise a serious vendetta and end a seemingly hard working rotor heads business. I am open to reviewing all the evidence you have, and then maybe I will come to a different result. My email is JoeMirabile@gmail.com
Feel free to send the info there.

ABadR1. - Your comments on legalities are ill based. I am getting through law school now, and there are legal issues on both sides here. There are websites that allow for commenting on someones services. There are also rights to privacy, and divulging emails, and personal conversations, is not looked on favorably by the law. As far as slander, again I do not have all the info, and I am not passing any judgment, but, if Sonix was able to prove none of this was true, there is a tort suit there as well.

Lastly,
Threatening to call the IRS on someone is rediculous. I encourage you not to do that, and to try and work out your differences. I would consider anyone willing to call the IRS on anyone else, in ANY situation, a total scumbag.

For now, all I can say is that Sonix did good work for me, and people I know, thus, I cannot flame him. I do not have all the info in this case, and until I do Herb, I cannot support you....I welcome the evidence as stated above.

Joe, I've sent you an email.. but also understand that you are seeing things in one sided view.

If you are to criticize me for contacting IRS, you should also criticize Jason for threatening with some non sense law suit.

So called Vendetta I might have for jason, would go along anyone who crosses me in this way.. Maybe you might of handled it differently, but its being handled this way because he acted the way he did. Sorry you disagree with the away its being carried out.

I agree with you 100% Phill. I hope Jason Evans(sonix7) will step up and do the right thing to fix this problem for you.

Just in case, those of you who missed the original thread..

Here is what happened at the end..

Date:12-26-06

Jason writes
Same day: 12-26-06
I think couple of weeks later...

I should also mention, I been asking him to send me some progress pics of the parts he started back in March. All the remainding parts he so called trying to finish have been wrapped back in march or worked on back in march. I've posted the confirmation email on the previous thread...

Couple of weeks goes by I get this email after kept asking him about the package.. daily!

2/2/2007

I email back with GREAT JOY!!! as he finally tells me ALL parts are complete! Zero mentioning of anything going wrong..
As you could see from my reply, I was in joy that this sega will finally end! I was so happy that I took my wife out to celebrate!!


Then on Feb 4th, 2007... Jason email me this... Now this is the KICKER!!!! Remember, 2 days after he comfirmed that he has finished all the parts and HAVE sent the items out.


SO, NOW do you guys understand why I would be pissed.. He pretty much sold the panels to someone else.. And sends me TAN spray painted panels!!!! So some of you think he's a such a "GREAT" "HONEST" guy.. I say FUCK that! I just provided all the evidence to what he did.. I have the panels here that I could see its painted.. So, DID I make out on this deal??? 1.25 years of waiting.. EMAILS after emails of BS, the stress.. SHitty parts (which I posted on other thread).. And some of you think a good honest person would do such a thing?

I truely believe I got less than what i gave Jason! Zero respect he gave me when I've spend hours and hours.. chance after chance to help him.. but he pull this SHIT at the last minute... He says he mailed.. then tells me the shitty parts he included 2 days later??.. FUCK THAT!!! Hope I'm not the only one who thinks this is BAD..

To be honest, if all the parts were promised as before, I would of shut my mouth and moved on with my life.. but shitty parts and switching panels... Bad Move buddy!

And let me also clearify as he is mention that I never paid him..

He offered to do that parts for FREE.. I bought stuff for him and HE NEVER paid me. I told him not to worry as I feel bad about taking things for free! All the stuff I provided him, including the sponsorship level at DGRR totals well over $1000.

Plus personal time I've spend getting parts for his car, parts for him to mold, talking to potential customers, spreading the word about him, etc etc.. if I would put price tag on that service (just as he put price tag on his service to CF overlay) would be also well over $1000...

I highly doubt that... He promised to put me as his priority to get the parts ready for DGRR, Formula D ATL, Barber Motorsport event, Rotary get togethers in SE, Z day in SE (one of the G35 wanted to see what he could do as he wanted some custom parts made), and NOPI!! He promised and never delivered.. Lot of words but nothing..

Unfortunately, I would NEVER send him another part of mine... Why you ask?

Because I don't want to wait another year for it!! Its rediculous for him to so call, "finish up" the part when he started the part in Feb/March of 2006. And when he sends it, he'll make some other excuses..

Well, it really doesn't matter now.. He's going to go talk to his lawyer and I'm sure trying to file a lawsuit against me.. LOL! I BEG him to do it! Finally once he'll actually do what he promised me that he will DO!

quoted for truth..... if you have to stoop to that, then it really says alot about you as well. over the years i've had my fair share of "bad dealings" with people on automotive forums.... and the only times anything ever worked out is when it was gone about in a civil manner. if you keep slinging shit at eachother, its gonna get you nowhere fast, trust me.

i hope the both of you can work this out

Like I said.. Its been at works for over a year! As i stated earlier, I tried to resolve this "dealing" behind doors and tried and tried to work it out.. It is unfortunate I have to "stoop" this low.. I know. Its sad! I guess 1+ years dealing with this guy does that to ya.. What can I say?? You become who you deal with..

To your response to me, you stated privacy issues, that is a whole different case than what I posted earlier. I stated Jason will have a hard case against Phil. Do not bring infringing in someone's privacy and not favorable by law, come on that is a totally different issues than the transaction with Jason and Phil. Your bringing in a totally different issue here. Let's talk about the problem at hand...Jason and Phil's transaction.


Now to the privacy infringing, I am assuming using a tape recorder is against privacy, even without the other party's permission? That is evidence that can still be held up in court. You should know that what you do in your on house is private. When you hack in someone's email that is private. Phil is only gathering information on his own email, he did not hack and stole their own conversation. If Jason was going take the privacy issue to court, I think he would have a better case going to court about the transaction b/t the two. You should know that if this was to be taken to court, the judge is not going to say, "oh well, since you post the email conversation I am going to favor Jason." You should know Jason has a very hard case if he took it to court. In regards to the case, most attorney would laugh at this childish threats. Understand, if an attorney was to take this case, it would be for monetary benefits, since they will know this case would go no where. Probably mediate without any resolution. What you study in the books, at the end, it is the Judge and Jury that decides your FATE, not the books you learn. All laws are bendable to an extent.

Everybody's privacy gets broken everyday, but taking it to trial how much can it really hold up in court???


Phil in most cases is at disadvantage, because Jason posted things that contradicts his transaction with Phil. By posting these facts actually will hurt Phil, because now Jason would watch what he type in the future on the forum, instead of digging himself in a black HOLE.

Customer service is what will keep you in business....and the reaction from
Jason Evans(sonix7).....its obviously him who needs to clear this up. Herblenny pretty much stated his facts...and the short answers from sonix7 doesnt make much sense or look good on his behalf.

GoodLuck herblenny

OK. All I can possibly say to you is, I understand you are defending Phil, that is fine, but, do not try and write about issues you obviously have no background with, nor understanding. Your imput to this thread has been detrimental, you have no experience with Sonix, and are offering no help. You are making unfounded claims. Therefore, let people who want to help, and clarify the issues, attempt to take care of this. Phil seems to have his head on his shoulders, and wants to fix this. I think it is very possible this can be worked out.

Never dealt with Jason...(can't stand the font he types in)

but I know PHIL, and the quality he delivers and expects...and he isn't asking the impossible. If Jason ruined (or sold...I don't think he did, that could be a misunderstanding) parts that PHIL sent, the same quality part needs to be returned, as a lose to the "biz"

If Jason ruined materials (or used for "paying" customers parts) that PHIL sent...that material needs to be replenished to PHIL (as a lose to the "biz"), so he can take his parts and material else where to get worked by someone who can deliver the quality PHIL is looking for.

Jason tried no doubting that...(but really you can't return a part such as the trunk piece that is obviously deformed and not going to work) but has to man up and take the lose. Running a successful business isn't just about profit. Some projects could be the opposite, and you live and learn which you can and cannot complete.

Even though you didn't work for cash...you can't assume PHIL should be happy with anything you send him, just as long the number of parts in equals the number of parts out...and you tried to use the material he sent.

not sure what is not cut and dry here.


all the defaming bullshit...this is a public forum.

It is more than just defending Phil, what Jason did is unethical and he needs to man up and quit making excuse. Your positive experience w/ Jason, does not make all his dealing with others a happy one. In regards to making unfound claims, tell Jason to show his business license, than I will shut my mouth.

In the past, Phil told me about his incident with the fish eye problem and imperfection in the paint. I recommended Phil some alternatives, so Jason can resolve this issue. I know more about this situation, than just coming on here to be detrimental.


So my background and understand, please explain what the judge would do if this case was taken to court? Majority of judges would pretty much grin and tell the plaintiff to go home. I did not mention all judges, since all have a mind of their own. If the judge was to examine the case, the privacy factor would not come in effect. Hence, that is not the main issue at hand. Jason as no leverage, because everything was written, the only case would be Phil filing suit against Jason in this whole matter.

Joe, Jason has no facts that would help him, but hurt him for the matter. That is why Jason has not posted.


Joe, I have no issues with you and I hope your not taking that way. I hope you understand the only resolution to this matter, is the day Jason quit making excuses to everything Phil post, than it will be the end!

Phil would not do such a thing, that was in retaliation to Jason wanting to get an attorney.

Here is a revision, so that I can better explain it, as I could not edit my previous post.

It is more than just defending Phil, what Jason did is unethical and he needs to man up and quit making excuse. Your positive experience w/ Jason, does not make all his dealing with others a happy one. In regards to making unfound claims, does listening to attorney talk almost everyday and sitting in the court room hold any validity?


In regards to the background and understanding, please explain what the judge would do if this case was taken to court? You can never determine how a case would be ruled, ever. Judges have their own mind and different things in their life and their personal experiences can sometimes decide the fate of their ruling. From the facts that Phil gathered, most judges will not rule in the favor of the plaintiff. If the judge was to examine the case, the privacy factor would not come in effect. Hence, that is not the main issue at hand. Jason has no case, because everything was written and the facts speak for themselves, the only case would be Phil filing suit against Jason in this whole matter.

In the past, Phil told me about his incident with the fish eye problem and imperfection in the paint. I recommended Phil some alternatives, so Jason can resolve this issue. I know more about this situation, than just coming on here to be detrimental. Oh did I mention I have seen these pieces?


Joe, Jason has no facts that would help him, but hurt him for the matter. That is why Jason has not posted.


Joe, I have no issues with you and I hope your not taking that way. I hope you understand the only resolution to this matter, is the day Jason quit making excuses to everything Phil post, than it will be the end!

Check out the post by Herblenny on the for sale section and let the evidence speak for themselves.

Everything you're saying now is a complete contradiction to what you said before. So what is the truth? I can understand Phil playing along and being nice because you had all his parts. Would you've returned all his parts if he had tore into you about the quality of your work and for not delivering when you said you would? HELL NO! Why is this such a shock to you? Anyone in his situation would've done the same.

You may have perfected your skills and gained the respect of a few, but how many did you screw and get-over on to get to where you are? Aren't you the same individual that made an attempt to be a vendor on this forum but backed-out because didn't want to pay to advertise and transact business like every other vendor on this forum even though you did briefly advertised and put yourself out there for everyone see? That alone says a lot about your character. Just because you have managed to do some quality work and gain a few people in your corner doesn't mean you shouldn't own up to your quality issues and past misdeeds,... or present misdeeds for that matter.

I would like to thank those for understanding my situation..

I'll add another detail to this sega..

Anyone who had any types of relationships should know "TRUST" is very important!

After helping Jason for about 3-4 weeks, he insisted that I send all the parts I wanted to overlay, as I was building a show car. I was going to do this myself (as repeated earlier). I told him I was going to DO ALL THE panels. He said no problem. I said, I will just send all the little pieces and I'll either do them or fly him over to Bham as another local guy wanted to do the same thing (20b 3rd gen). He said he wanted to use me as an example and he was going to do this for FREE (as you could see in the emails).

So, I send him 3 boxes of parts and inside $250 RX8 shiftknob, 1 x R1 lip, 1x 99 lip, and other misc parts he could keep.. All and all about $1500-$2000 IN PARTS!

He then asked me to either pay him for some material or buy some CF for him. He said he doesn't have enough CF and needed 4 yards of CF. I bought him 10 yards ($400).

I send him more parts and materials and NOW he has OVER $3000 of my parts and NEW stuff I've bought for him.... BEFORE I recieved a single item back! Now you guys kind of understanding what kind of trust I had on him???

2 months goes by jason sends me few pics. but I could tell the quality. I ask him to send as many parts as possible.. still nothing.. Finally, He sends me 2 exterior door handles and a colume pod that looked like ass. Nicely, I complain about lack of parts I received and the quality of the handles.. And he goes ape shit! So, what can I do?? He's holding over 3k worth of my stuff, I'm kind of in a weird situation as jason tells me for months how great things are going and such and he flips out!! (all this on the email also)

Do any of you now understand what kind of situation I was in?? I trusted this guy and after pointing out that he can't sell handles like this and he goes ape shit. And just to make sure that it wasn't just me who thinks the handles were shit, I showed it to several local, well respected rotary owners,.. The all agreed that it was SHIT!!! I spent about 10 hours on the emails, over 3 hours on the phone explaining why he can't send me parts like this to me. Finally after all the phone and email conversation, he said and I quote, "You'll be my #1 priority".. yeh right.. I recieved the next set of handles 6 months later! And you could all see, its not perfect.. But I shut my mouth because I just wanted my parts back!

Do you guys think I'm lying about this?? i provided all the emails as facts.. I'm not making anything up! No reason to! I recieved what I recieved and tried (understand I been working with Jason for over a year trying to get quality parts). And everytime its the same excuses.. "I'm doing this for FREE"..I don't understand how many times I told him that in a way, you are not! I've given him $1000+ worth of NEW parts, Used parts, and Meterials.. And not to point out my efforts trying to help this guy. That alone I've spent well over 20-30 hours! And thats not an exaggeration.. He understood for short period of time when I put things in perspective... but same excuses emerges over and over.. as you could see what he posted here on the forum..

Please put yourself in my situation.. I wanted to help this guy, wanted for him to succeed, I didn't not take advantage of his FREE offer and I DID compensate him! I was patient and waited over a year to recieve parts he started in March of 2006 (All the parts I recieved, he started in march of 2006, I have pics and emails.. and no new parts were started after that.. maybe the mirrors, but that didn't even get converted and worse than what i sent thim.. It was BRAND NEW now its primed), Bought him more parts, gave him more money, I even settle to just get my parts back in time... NOTHING!! until 2/8/07!

So, those who think I don't have right to be pissed because you might of got things fine thru Jason, should know... Probably your parts are made from the CF I bought him... He used maybe 1 yard of the stuff I recieved.. I bought him 10 yards (360 inches x 50 inches).

And to be clear about another thing.. Some of you think I need to WORK things out with Jason Evans aka Sonix7.. Please, Tell me how I should work things out???

Read what has happened and you will understand.. I BEEN trying to work things out! Remember that over a year I kept this silent.. NO ONE KNEW!!! I think if I posted this back in FEB of 2006 (a year ago), i think most of you would of re consider sending your parts to Jason.. There will be NO working things out with him.. Why, I don't want to send a dime, parts, etc to Jason... What i recieved from him is underquality parts and I will go far as he ruined some of the parts.. I already asked him back last year about replacing and he did nothing.. Now the door panel swap BS>.. RIght.. I'll be sending that to him...

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