Power FC PFC and 1600ccs from K2 WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!
01-09-03, 08:52 AM
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PFC and 1600ccs from K2 WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!
they are not high impedence as advertised...... they burned out my pfc and they will not cover it. their website says HIGH IMPEDENCE 1600cc injectors not mid or low. i installed them and now i have a computer that is broke. all i have asked is for 1/2 the cost of a new/ USED PFC.
Richard,
Would you happen to have an invoice for the injectors or a paypal
transaction record, since you paid via paypal for the fuel rail? We
have no record of selling the injectors to you. We cannot be
responsible for parts we didn't sell you.
--
Paul Ko
www.k2rd.com
Richard Jackson wrote:
> these injectors were falsely advertised. the [power fc can control
> injectors of that size with the datalogit. and if they are mid
impedence
> you should have said so. the injectors and ecu were installed by a
> professional. i am not the only one with this complaint. it would be
> best if we did not have a legal issue over this. i have found a used
> power fc and the man is taking 800 for it. i would like 400 whitch is
> 1/2 the cost for this error on your page. i will be waiting to hear
back
> from you.
>
> Paul Ko <pko@k2rd.com> wrote:
>
> Rich,
> We apologize for the delay in replying. We finally got to our
phone
> messages and email, after clearing the backlogged holiday orders.
>
> To clarify the impedance issue, these injectors are more like
> "mid-impedance" injectors, at about ~8ohms. Low-impedance
injectors are
> 2ohms and hi-impedance ones are 10-14ohms. Most hi-impedance
ECU's can
> fire these Bosch injectors with no problem. The website was
misleading,
> but not incorrect.
>
> Furthermore, we cannot be responsible for the application of the
parts
> we sell, since we have no control of what or how the product is
used.
> On these bosch injectors for example, 20% of the sale goes to
customers
> for V8 applications. I have no idea what ECU they are running.
Also,
> most of these injectors on RX7's are running Haltech's, as the
PowerFC
> cannot control injectors that big. Installation of the injectors
> require changing of the electrical connectors, which if not done
> correctly, can have drastic consequences.
>
> What I'm trying to say is that the end user will inherently
assume
> responsibility for the use of a product.
>
> We cannot find any record of you purchasing Bosch injectors from
us. We
> understand you have purchased a 13BREW secondary fuel rail back
on
> 3/17/2002.
>
> > After purchasing and installing your "high impedence" 1600 cc
> injectors my Apexi power fc computer is now fried. the reason i
> bought and paid 145x2 for the injectors is because they were
> advertised as high impedence, whitch is required for the correct
> operation of my 1000$ computer that i bought. now... with your
> cooperation i am sure we can work through this matter in a timely
> fashion for a new power fc to replace the one that was damaged by
> you false advertisement. if you would like to talk to me in on
the
> phone my number is 727-743-0677 you can reach me any time.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Please let us know how we can further resolve this incident.
>
> --
> Paul Ko
> www.k2rd.com
>
>
>
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Richard,
Would you happen to have an invoice for the injectors or a paypal
transaction record, since you paid via paypal for the fuel rail? We
have no record of selling the injectors to you. We cannot be
responsible for parts we didn't sell you.
--
Paul Ko
www.k2rd.com
Richard Jackson wrote:
> these injectors were falsely advertised. the [power fc can control
> injectors of that size with the datalogit. and if they are mid
impedence
> you should have said so. the injectors and ecu were installed by a
> professional. i am not the only one with this complaint. it would be
> best if we did not have a legal issue over this. i have found a used
> power fc and the man is taking 800 for it. i would like 400 whitch is
> 1/2 the cost for this error on your page. i will be waiting to hear
back
> from you.
>
> Paul Ko <pko@k2rd.com> wrote:
>
> Rich,
> We apologize for the delay in replying. We finally got to our
phone
> messages and email, after clearing the backlogged holiday orders.
>
> To clarify the impedance issue, these injectors are more like
> "mid-impedance" injectors, at about ~8ohms. Low-impedance
injectors are
> 2ohms and hi-impedance ones are 10-14ohms. Most hi-impedance
ECU's can
> fire these Bosch injectors with no problem. The website was
misleading,
> but not incorrect.
>
> Furthermore, we cannot be responsible for the application of the
parts
> we sell, since we have no control of what or how the product is
used.
> On these bosch injectors for example, 20% of the sale goes to
customers
> for V8 applications. I have no idea what ECU they are running.
Also,
> most of these injectors on RX7's are running Haltech's, as the
PowerFC
> cannot control injectors that big. Installation of the injectors
> require changing of the electrical connectors, which if not done
> correctly, can have drastic consequences.
>
> What I'm trying to say is that the end user will inherently
assume
> responsibility for the use of a product.
>
> We cannot find any record of you purchasing Bosch injectors from
us. We
> understand you have purchased a 13BREW secondary fuel rail back
on
> 3/17/2002.
>
> > After purchasing and installing your "high impedence" 1600 cc
> injectors my Apexi power fc computer is now fried. the reason i
> bought and paid 145x2 for the injectors is because they were
> advertised as high impedence, whitch is required for the correct
> operation of my 1000$ computer that i bought. now... with your
> cooperation i am sure we can work through this matter in a timely
> fashion for a new power fc to replace the one that was damaged by
> you false advertisement. if you would like to talk to me in on
the
> phone my number is 727-743-0677 you can reach me any time.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Please let us know how we can further resolve this incident.
>
> --
> Paul Ko
> www.k2rd.com
>
>
>
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I have only one question, did you verify the resistance of them before installing?
A volt-ohm meter is another must own tool for a SERIOUS mechanic and for doing your own work on your car.
Even if you had someone else install them, a resistance
test would have taken less then 5 minutes. Ultimately it comes down to you on this one.
Take this as a learning experince and move forward with more knowledge.
A volt-ohm meter is another must own tool for a SERIOUS mechanic and for doing your own work on your car.
Even if you had someone else install them, a resistance
test would have taken less then 5 minutes. Ultimately it comes down to you on this one.
Take this as a learning experince and move forward with more knowledge.
06-12-04, 10:31 AM
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If he advertised them as high impedience and they weren't than you need to take his *** to court. This is absolutly his fault. He supplied you with false information leading you to believe that the injectors would work perfectly with your ecu.
06-16-04, 08:35 PM
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fart on a friends head!!!
Originally posted by cewrx7r1
I have only one question, did you verify the resistance of them before installing?
A volt-ohm meter is another must own tool for a SERIOUS mechanic and for doing your own work on your car.
Even if you had someone else install them, a resistance
test would have taken less then 5 minutes. Ultimately it comes down to you on this one.
Take this as a learning experince and move forward with more knowledge.
I have only one question, did you verify the resistance of them before installing?
A volt-ohm meter is another must own tool for a SERIOUS mechanic and for doing your own work on your car.
Even if you had someone else install them, a resistance
test would have taken less then 5 minutes. Ultimately it comes down to you on this one.
Take this as a learning experince and move forward with more knowledge.
how many people would buy injectors from a SUPPOSED reputable shop and second guess them. THEY are the ones telling him what they are. THEY are at fault. they are also incorrect about the applications of the power fc. i know that if i bought a set of injectors from them. . . or gotham, or rx7store, or RP, or whoever BEFORE reading this thread i would have just tossed em in. . . cause i bought what they had advertised.
they did him wrong. . . go get a lawyer.
paul
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