Saw this at a local car show.....
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I really don't think he'll understand even with an explanation.
I know it's meant to go... and go fast (most likely on the cheap) but I think the FD deserves something more exotic than a DSM, one of the reasons I haven't picked one up to bastardize.
I know it's meant to go... and go fast (most likely on the cheap) but I think the FD deserves something more exotic than a DSM, one of the reasons I haven't picked one up to bastardize.
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Holy ****, I was not the only one on this forum at Buschurs that day. Glad I did not fly all the way out there from California JUST for the shootout. Least to say, I won't be back there on 10/13.
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The open dyno day at buschur's was impressive and they had a really good turnout. One of the best I've seen for a manufacturer I must say. The Shooutout itself would've been good had it not rained. I did talk to the owner of the FD and he did not have any numbers on it yet as they had just got it together to bring out to the show. I wasn't fan of it myself, I would've put a 20b in it.
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No disrespect or anything man. But what is up with all you guys on this and every RX7 forum acting like the rotary is the greatest invention since sliced bread. And acting like the car has feelings or something. Statements like: "the FD deserves something better" and "waste of money, he shoulda stuck with the rotary" makes me want to ask the question I ask in every thread and that question seems start an argument: IS MAZDA PAYING YOU GUYS OR SOMETHING??? I hold no loyalties to any material thing man, not even the company/brand I work for much less for the car I drive or the motor in it. I just want cheap and reliable speed, or the closest thing to it. I'm in the process of doing this swap now. I started around the same time as these guys but they beat me to it because I'm also working on the house, and much congrats to them it looks beautiful. The 4G63 is a strong reliable cheap motor with forged internals that will handle at least 500hp stock. And did I mention cheap? The motor costs like $100, and you can fully build one for under $3000. A water pump costs $18 at the parts store for christ sake. The bottom line is this fellas this is a piston world, yes the rotary is an amazing motor, truly amazing, but until the R&D for it picks up, and prices fall to that or lower than a piston motor(thats gonna happen on Neverary 32nd), swapping in ANY piston motor will always be a sensible option.
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No disrespect or anything man. But what is up with all you guys on this and every RX7 forum acting like the rotary is the greatest invention since sliced bread. And acting like the car has feelings or something. Statements like: "the FD deserves something better" and "waste of money, he shoulda stuck with the rotary" makes me want to ask the question I ask in every thread and that question seems start an argument: IS MAZDA PAYING YOU GUYS OR SOMETHING??? I hold no loyalties to any material thing man, not even the company/brand I work for much less for the car I drive or the motor in it. I just want cheap and reliable speed, or the closest thing to it. I'm in the process of doing this swap now. I started around the same time as these guys but they beat me to it because I'm also working on the house, and much congrats to them it looks beautiful. The 4G63 is a strong reliable cheap motor with forged internals that will handle at least 500hp stock. And did I mention cheap? The motor costs like $100, and you can fully build one for under $3000. A water pump costs $18 at the parts store for christ sake. The bottom line is this fellas this is a piston world, yes the rotary is an amazing motor, very amaging, but until the R&D for it picks up and prices fall (thats gonna happen on Neverary 32nd), swapping in ANY piston motor will always be a sensible option.
The 13b in the FD's is a badass motor, and guess what? when you buy the car, you get the engine for free, so why swap it out? I can understand the V-8 swaps, but the 4-banger swaps just dont do it for me. And on top of the fact I dont like any product Mitsubishi has ever offered, I have no reason to want any engine they make, no matter how badass it was or is. Every automotive company has at least one ultra badass engine, but whats the point of taking it out of one car, and swapping it in to another car that weighs near the same? And the said car already came with a badass engine? Reliability? You make me laugh, if I wanted that I would have an LS1 or an LS2 not a 4G63, thats like saying I want a honda engine.
If you swapped an LS7 in, I would be impressed, if you swapped a Viper V10 in somehow, I would be impressed, if you put a 2JZ in it I could understand... A 20B even, but a 4G63? They are a dime a dozen, and FD's are not. Its like buying a Corvette and swapping in a 4G63, Why do it??
Props on alot of hard work, but I think people on a DSM forum will appreciate it more. Sorry if you think I am bashing you, but thats just honestly how most people here will look at it.
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And yes the rotary IS the greatest thing since sliced bread, I dont see sliced bread powering cars.