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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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Smile Looking for a large diameter exhaust.

I've been looking around for something that can flow nicley and looks good. It needs to be at leat 3.5inch and no bottlenecks. I'd perfer titanium but the only one i found above 3inch id the FEED for $2k.

I looked at the Apex GT but it seems from this picture that it has a severe bottleneck so its not a true 3.74 inch diameter???
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=50492

I also saw a Border-racing exhaust in one or two threads on here but could find no more info ANYwhere, anyone?

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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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RP/Greddy race exhaust: http://www.rx7.com/store/rx7/fdexhaust.html

It's not titanium, but the entire exhaust (center section back) only weighs 36 pounds. Nice deep tone. My car dyno'd 362 RWHP at 12 PSI (single) with this.

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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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HI I have a 3.5" all the way from single turbo to end, I modify the turbo V-band outlet for 3.5" pipe plus two Magnaflows 3.5" all the way thru works good sounds nice. Im starting on a 4" system for a customers FD, single turbo. but I have to have the vehicle in house. RON
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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Why not go with the 4 inch HKS racing Ti? Only the canister is titanium, but the piping is stainless steel. Still good though.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2dark2Bslow
I've been looking around for something that can flow nicley and looks good. It needs to be at leat 3.5inch and no bottlenecks. I'd perfer titanium but the only one i found above 3inch id the FEED for $2k.
Why exactly do you think you need an exhaust diameter larger than 3"? Many people have been running high powered cars with 3" exhaust for years without a problem.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
Why exactly do you think you need an exhaust diameter larger than 3"? Many people have been running high powered cars with 3" exhaust for years without a problem.
Agreed! 3" is fine for stock turbos.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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HI with turbochargers the highest effeicency would be expand the exhaust gases as quickly possible after they leave the turbine exducer wheel, hence large pipe, or no pipe. but it might be loud, so they invented exhaust systems.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ronbros3
HI with turbochargers the highest effeicency would be expand the exhaust gases as quickly possible after they leave the turbine exducer wheel, hence large pipe, or no pipe. but it might be loud, so they invented exhaust systems.

To a degree, do a search. Sometimes velocity is more important then no backpressure.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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To a degree, do a search. Sometimes velocity is more important then no backpressure.
Not to mention torque.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by gfelber
RP/Greddy race exhaust: http://www.rx7.com/store/rx7/fdexhaust.html

It's not titanium, but the entire exhaust (center section back) only weighs 36 pounds. Nice deep tone. My car dyno'd 362 RWHP at 12 PSI (single) with this.

Gene
This one looks nice but it is made to bolt up to a 3in dp. I could cut off the 3in part and have it welded up but id hate to cut it up in case i didnt lik it it would be harder to sell.

Mahjik: I know i will need larger than a 3in b/c the car will start off with no less than 400rwhp. If and when i decide to to make more power i dont want to have to do it over. I understand your concern though.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 2dark2Bslow
This one looks nice but it is made to bolt up to a 3in dp. I could cut off the 3in part and have it welded up but id hate to cut it up in case i didnt lik it it would be harder to sell.

Mahjik: I know i will need larger than a 3in b/c the car will start off with no less than 400rwhp. If and when i decide to to make more power i dont want to have to do it over. I understand your concern though.

Hey, what are you doing to it, what's done to it? Is it gonna be streetable?
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gfelber
RP/Greddy race exhaust: http://www.rx7.com/store/rx7/fdexhaust.html

It's not titanium, but the entire exhaust (center section back) only weighs 36 pounds. Nice deep tone. My car dyno'd 362 RWHP at 12 PSI (single) with this.

Gene
Hi Gene,

what are the sound levels like? I may have to talk to Ari about that sucker.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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It will be a LSx based motor and will be driven on a daily basis

<--*ducks and covers head*
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 2dark2Bslow
It will be a LSx based motor and will be driven on a daily basis

<--*ducks and covers head*

/me takes out sniper rifle..
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 2dark2Bslow
Mahjik: I know i will need larger than a 3in b/c the car will start off with no less than 400rwhp. If and when i decide to to make more power i dont want to have to do it over. I understand your concern though.
And?

The RX7.com street class drag car put down more power with a 3" exhaust.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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didnt know that. got a link that explains more?
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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didnt know that. got a link that explains more?
RX7.com doesn't appear to have their drag car info up anymore. I do know the catback they were using was the Greddy Power Extreme (as they sold me mine).
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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i see says the blind man..

What size exhuast were they running before they switched to a 3 inch? how much additional power did they gain?

Thanks!
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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i see says the blind man..

What size exhuast were they running before they switched to a 3 inch? how much additional power did they gain?

Thanks!
Switched? I don't know that the car was ever built using a different exhaust.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:35 PM
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oh sorry. i was under the impression they had a larder diameter exhuast then down sized. thanks for update.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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wouldnt the fact that you have a 3 inch downpipe. mean that the apexi gt spec's megaphone piping going from 3 inch to 3.75 inch be okay then. assuming your midpipe is 3inch also otherwise wouldnt it just be dumb to have a big sudden gap in the piping diameter. sorry if i read your post wrong..its late and i am tired.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 2dark2Bslow
I've been looking around for something that can flow nicley and looks good. It needs to be at leat 3.5inch and no bottlenecks. I'd perfer titanium but the only one i found above 3inch id the FEED for $2k.

I looked at the Apex GT but it seems from this picture that it has a severe bottleneck so its not a true 3.74 inch diameter???
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=50492

I also saw a Border-racing exhaust in one or two threads on here but could find no more info ANYwhere, anyone?

TIA
yeah the gt spec is 3.74 the whole way. It has three different size flanges (75,85,95) so that it will line up to a 3" exhaust or a 2.5 etc.... I can't think of many 3.74 downpipes so thats why they do that.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
RX7.com doesn't appear to have their drag car info up anymore. I do know the catback they were using was the Greddy Power Extreme (as they sold me mine).
Pretty sure that the 3 incher doesnt become a restriction until at least 550-600 rhwp.

(that's what she said )
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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ok, but what doesnt make sense is with a 3.74 inch pipe and a 75mm flange, how can it fit flush to a 75 mm dp. (Not that the car is even having one but for explainations sakes.)
The flanged exhaust would need a coupler to to make a transition in size, therefore the pipe can't be 3.75 all the way...right?
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