1999 Miata Engine For An RX-7
03-31-08, 10:42 AM
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1999 Miata Engine For An RX-7
I'm strongly considering putting a Mazda 1999 Miata Engine in a 1993 automatic RX-7.
What is your thought on this?
My main reason for doing so is because of fuel economy.
I know that I will not get the same performance as The Original Rotary Engine but I should get better fuel economy and mileage.
Do you think I should do this or not?
What is your thought on this?
My main reason for doing so is because of fuel economy.
I know that I will not get the same performance as The Original Rotary Engine but I should get better fuel economy and mileage.
Do you think I should do this or not?
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03-31-08, 11:41 AM
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You really want to go from 245 hp to like 120hp ? Miata's dont even get good enough gas mileage in the first place. Put that same engine in a slightly heavier car and your gas mileage may just not be there anymore. Sure the Miata's have a good engine and its got great power in a 2200lb car but its not something to put into an FD. If you want better gas mileage and for some reason dont want a Miata buy a Nissan 240sx.
PS: I just realized it was asking about a 1999 not a 1990 like i thought it said... I still stick by most of this but the hp number is probably off.
PS: I just realized it was asking about a 1999 not a 1990 like i thought it said... I still stick by most of this but the hp number is probably off.
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03-31-08, 12:01 PM
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You really want to go from 245 hp to like 120hp ? Miata's dont even get good enough gas mileage in the first place. Put that same engine in a slightly heavier car and your gas mileage may just not be there anymore. Sure the Miata's have a good engine and its got great power in a 2200lb car but its not something to put into an FD. If you want better gas mileage and for some reason dont want a Miata buy a Nissan 240sx.
PS: I just realized it was asking about a 1999 not a 1990 like i thought it said... I still stick by most of this but the hp number is probably off.
PS: I just realized it was asking about a 1999 not a 1990 like i thought it said... I still stick by most of this but the hp number is probably off.
In today's fuel market the FD3s is difficult to justify as a daily driver.
Putting a Miata can be made into a daily driver. Would'nt you agree?
03-31-08, 01:53 PM
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53.6%/46.4% - Crap!
Let's say it costs you 3-5k to do this swap. Why go through the trouble to just end up with an underpowered sports car when you could buy a Honda (as mentioned above) and use that as a daily for about the same price?
I'm open to swaps but there is no benefit at all to this. You would be better off doing an LS1 swap. It would probably be cheaper since there are kits made for it, and you would be looking at around 30mpg highway, especially if you went with a T-56.
I bet if you wanted to stay auto though you could sell your engine/trans and any mods for at least around 1.5-2k, and then invest 3-4k in an auto trans and an LS1 (or maybe even 1.5-2k for an LT1/auto in great shape), and then maybe another 2-3k in the mounting hardware and other associated goodies. That gives you a net input of 3-5k (2-3k for an LT1) and a reliable daily driver that is faster than what you had with better economy.
That's just me I suppose, but I'd be all for it if I could see a single benefit to the swap. However, I don't see any; I really don't even think you would see much of an improvement in fuel economy.
Another benefit is that V8 RX7's seem to hold their value relatively well. Where you would have the most undesirable FD in the US short of one that was wrecked you could end up with one that is worth more than yours currently is. I'm not trying to be mean but I don't want to see you waste your money. A well done V8 swap can sell for the sum of the parts (depending on what all was done), which usually isn't true for modified cars.
I'm open to swaps but there is no benefit at all to this. You would be better off doing an LS1 swap. It would probably be cheaper since there are kits made for it, and you would be looking at around 30mpg highway, especially if you went with a T-56.
I bet if you wanted to stay auto though you could sell your engine/trans and any mods for at least around 1.5-2k, and then invest 3-4k in an auto trans and an LS1 (or maybe even 1.5-2k for an LT1/auto in great shape), and then maybe another 2-3k in the mounting hardware and other associated goodies. That gives you a net input of 3-5k (2-3k for an LT1) and a reliable daily driver that is faster than what you had with better economy.
That's just me I suppose, but I'd be all for it if I could see a single benefit to the swap. However, I don't see any; I really don't even think you would see much of an improvement in fuel economy.
Another benefit is that V8 RX7's seem to hold their value relatively well. Where you would have the most undesirable FD in the US short of one that was wrecked you could end up with one that is worth more than yours currently is. I'm not trying to be mean but I don't want to see you waste your money. A well done V8 swap can sell for the sum of the parts (depending on what all was done), which usually isn't true for modified cars.
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03-31-08, 02:06 PM
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After you have spent all of that money, you now have a car that is worth FAR less than it was to begin with, as it was with the 13B.
For example, lets say on the HIGH side you gain 10 mpg with the miata swap. At approx. $3.40 per gallon, you are only saving ~$18 per tank in a FD. Even if the swap ONLY costs you $5,000(which is likely WAY on the low side depending on fab work needed), it would take you 277 tanks of gas to break even, and that doesn't even account for the vehicle depreciation with the 4cyl!
At 1-2 tanks per week, it would take you between 3 and 5 years to BREAK EVEN! So at that point you haven't even saved yourself $1. Again, that is not even accounting for vehicle depreciation...
03-31-08, 02:32 PM
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I shouldn't have to back this up, but I will. Your taking a slow economy engine and sticking it in a high level sports car. That's the most posuer thing you can do. You are completley to a "T" a ricer if you do that. Driving around in a fd sounding like a god damn honda. But w/e, not my car. Just don't pop your hood anywhere cause people will laugh and go...UH why? and youll be like "i'm poor so I put a miata 130hp pos in to this car so I could look like a super car but get the milage of a metro". There is nothing good you can say about it besides good gas milage. It just shows your a really cheap person trying to look like you have money or something just because as long as the car is running..then its an FD!
03-31-08, 06:12 PM
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What??? putting an Miata engine in a FD....that's sacrilege!!! You have just trampled on some holy covenant RX-7 scriptures!
Nah, if you want to, that's your car. Let us know how it goes.
Nah, if you want to, that's your car. Let us know how it goes.
03-31-08, 06:35 PM
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Yeah if you want to then do it. Screw what we say...I'll stick with the 13b. You bought your car and have every right to do what you want with it. I've learned there's too many people with different tastes for me to worry about what other people do to their cars...they will always do things I disagree with so I save myself the stress and just don't even bother judging cars anymore.
03-31-08, 06:59 PM
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Yeah if you want to then do it. Screw what we say...I'll stick with the 13b. You bought your car and have every right to do what you want with it. I've learned there's too many people with different tastes for me to worry about what other people do to their cars...they will always do things I disagree with so I save myself the stress and just don't even bother judging cars anymore.
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