Originally Posted by Roen
(Post 11003512)
Questions on passing emissions test and the ECU used to control the RE? Are you doing two ECU's in your car? Are your mounts anything like these?
http://raceroots.com/index.php/produ...mount-set.html Are all ancillary accessories working properly? Cruise, A/C, OMP, etc.... You're using RE front cover? All ancillary accessories will work properly. I am using the Renesis Front cover on the BRE engine. Chris |
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Quick update...
Did a little bit of work this afternoon after the employees left. Mainly modifications to the front cover...enjoy The marked area has to be lowered to clear the counterweight as explained by "Galdi" in PR... Attachment 718047 Another shot Attachment 718048 Finished item... Attachment 718049 Another shot Attachment 718050 now we just need to weld shut the opening that happened as a result of the milling as well as one of the oil holes that are left behind...then a new oil line needs to be ran on the exterior of the front cover to bridge what was machined away...I will upload more pics as I get further along... Chris |
Figured id put together a list of things to do... I will edit it as I go. I I know it's a bit ambiguous but it makes sense to me ;)
Chris To Do'sI (in no particular order) Machine front cover Weld front cover Front cover oil line Machine front pulley spacer Driver engine mount Pass engine mount Finish LIM Drill UIM bolt hole Throttle body adapter Oil pan and pickup Alternator adapter New belt Split ecu harness Plug and play harness Manifold Downpipe Wastegate dump Fuel rail mod Fuel lines Harness mod Exhaust valve Oil lines Radiator cover plate Water reservoir Intercooler mount Intercooler piping cut Intercooler piping weld Bov weld Replace exhaust sleeves Machine engine studs |
Originally Posted by ChrisRX8PR
(Post 11012615)
Figured id put together a list of things to do... I will edit it as I go. I I know it's a bit ambiguous but it makes sense to me ;)
Chris To Do'sI (in no particular order) Oil pan and pickup Alternator adapter Alternator adapter-??? |
Originally Posted by dznutzuk
(Post 11012694)
Oil pan and pickup-if you're using the stock front cover, the stock oil pan fits along w/pickup
Alternator adapter-??? I wrote Alternator adapter because Im using the Renesis front cover with the 20B LIM and the back of the Renesis alternator appears as though it will hit the front of BRE UIM. This will either require some grinding of the back of the alternator or a slight shift/relocation to the drivers side for clearance. Just trying to account for potentials. As I continue with the build some of these will hopefully not be needed. Chris |
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Finally got to try on the front cover and it clears all but 2 tiny spots where it touched...a little final grinding and it is finished as far as that is concerned. I dont think I will have issues routing the manifold to the turbo based on what I saw today, we'll see when I get it in the car for mockup and if needed I will build a custom engine mount similar to the Race Roots ones which will give me much more space
I took this opportunity to throw on the OMP, RX8 Waterpump outlet, intake manifolds and the RX-8 Alternator and was able to determine the Alternator issue. Unfortunately I bought this BRE from a forum member and it did not come with any accessories...the RX-8 Alt is also really jucy and I would like to keep it...soemthing will have to be made to be able to tighten the belt etc Chris Pics: Front Cover on Attachment 718051 Top View Attachment 718052 Too close Attachment 718053 Interference Attachment 718054 From the side where it hits Attachment 718055 How much it is off from the OEM mount Attachment 718056 |
It looks like the alternator fits if you install it first laying almost totally flat(not in the stock position) and then the uim instead of having the manifold on then sliding it into place-then you would have to make a new bracket.
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Originally Posted by dznutzuk
(Post 11013115)
It looks like the alternator fits if you install it first laying almost totally flat(not in the stock position) and then the uim instead of having the manifold on then sliding it into place-then you would have to make a new bracket.
Thanks for the idea. Chris |
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Originally Posted by ChrisRX8PR
(Post 10992213)
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The renesis is not that terrible of an engine in itself...I think its a situation where a misunderstood engine gets combined with a bunch of people that shouldn't own a rotary. Think of the majority of the people that own RX-7's and how different that is from the majority of people that own RX-8s. Mazda accomplished a goal, it wanted to sell the rotary to the masses and the RX-8 did just that...except that women that are used to a camry never check their oil and aren't expecting it to consume any and then they run it dry... people that are used to regular daily driver cars don't understand how important it is to warm up the engine..etc etc etc I could go on forever. The rotary engine is awesome but requires a degree of delicacy on part of the owner, everyone here knows that...most people that bought and RX-8 did not. What the renesis is Not is a run of the mill 4 cyl toyota engine...therefore it should be treated differently. I had plenty of fun with my renesis and accomplished a lot of firsts, first to 350, 400 and 500whp...first turbo bridgeport renesis...etc etc etc...Now I just want to go fast with no fuz and have nothing else to prove so Im swapping in an RE... originally I only pulled the Reni to swap in a 20B and then plans changed...otherwise I would've kept the Reni. |
Originally Posted by dznutzuk
(Post 11013115)
It looks like the alternator fits if you install it first laying almost totally flat(not in the stock position) and then the uim instead of having the manifold on then sliding it into place-then you would have to make a new bracket.
Chris |
Well, it looked like it would have fit, I guess you have some shaving/milling to do. I would have said to make an adapter to raise the uim but then it won't clear the firewall so that's a no go, damn renesis cover...
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Originally Posted by dznutzuk
(Post 11015205)
Well, it looked like it would have fit, I guess you have some shaving/milling to do. I would have said to make an adapter to raise the uim but then it won't clear the firewall so that's a no go, damn renesis cover...
Chris |
Mine doesn't even fit my finger between the throttle body cable pulley(mechanical) and the alternator.
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Today I worked on the Passenger Side mount...I decided to make a new one simply because I was not too happy with the available space in that area. It will still need a bit of triangulation(reinforcement) but I will do that later once I am sure it is where I need it to be.
I also dropped the engine in after throwing the mount off just so I could gauge the space around the engine and see if there would be any other areas of interference. I found that I will have to change the water pump/thermostat housing significantly to send the radiator hoses in different directions. I also found that the Cosmo oil filter pedestal hits the RX-8 clutch slave cylinder so I will have to do something for that as well...perhaps just make it remote while I'm at it. Enjoy Chris Pass Engine Mount Attachment 718057 Different Shot Attachment 718058 All Welded up Attachment 718059 Attachment 718060 Attachment 718061 On the Engine Attachment 718062 Attachment 718063 Attachment 718064 Engine in! LIM/UIM have absolutely no clearance problems...:) Attachment 718065 |
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Not a big update but today I spent about 30min making a support for the T4 flange so that I can pull the engine and build the manifold around it. I just took two .25" SS rods I had from a bar end when running parts on the big lathe and I made two shafts, welded them to two large nuts that I could slide over the water pump studs and then located the flange where I want it so I could weld it in place. Now I have a jig of sorts.
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Here is the updated list of todo's
C Machine front cover Weld front cover Front cover oil line Machine front pulley spacer Driver engine mount finish Pass engine mount finish Finish LIM (welding, holes etc) Drill UIM bolt hole Throttle elbow adapter flange RX-8 Throttle body flange Weld RX-8 throttle to Cosmo Adapter Elbow Oil filter Pedestal (machine, relocate, whatever) Water Pump Outlet Flange Oil pan and pickup Alternator adapter Split ecu harness Make Plug and play harness Make Manifold Install Wastegates Make Downpipe Make Wastegate dump Fuel rail mod Make/Modify Fuel lines Harness mod Make Turbo Oil lines Make Radiator cover plate Water reservoir Intercooler mount Cut Intercooler piping Weld Intercooler piping Weld BOV Replace exhaust sleeves Machine engine for studs/Dowels Make Ignition Bracket |
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Worked on the Elbow transition for the rear manifold runner into the T4 Flange. four cuts, a vise, a hammer and some massaging made for a pretty nice transition...my heat was too high when I first started welding on it so the welds are dark but by the time I was attaching the elbow to the flange it got better. On the inside it is a very nice, smooth transition. Now I just have to lightly grind the inside where the elbow meets the flange to remove the slight overlap. Will work on the other side later today.
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Finished the other side. Tried a different approach at a divided flange setup and it came out really good...you cant clearly see it in the pictures but the transition is perfect...just need to clean up the interior where it meets the Flange a bit to make sure there are no edges but that's it.
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Pulled the engine and began routing the manifold...:egrin:
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by the way its layout now it looks like the rear runner its going to be longer than front runner.
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Damn.
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nice fabbing
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Originally Posted by FC3S1991
(Post 11019717)
by the way its layout now it looks like the rear runner its going to be longer than front runner.
must be nice to be able to do most off the fabrication yourself. Chris |
Originally Posted by markfluko
(Post 11019739)
nice fabbing
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Looking good!!
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